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Nessus posted:Do these clowns really want to associate themselves with the chaotic horrors of the universe, really "However else it is possible to divide Western thinking, one fissure can be teased-open separating the theo-humanists—croaking together in the cramped and malodorous pond of Anthropos—from the wild beasts of the impersonal. The former are characterized by their moral fervour, parochialism, earnestness, phenomenological disposition, and Aborting the human race sympathy for folk superstition, the latter by their fatalism, atheism, strangely reptilian exuberance, and extreme sensitivity for what is icy, savage, and alien to mankind." - Nick Land Admittedly before his explicit turn to fascism, but he hasn't changed as much as some people might like.
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ArchangeI posted:The act of thinking something progressives don't like. Calling it crimethink instantly puts the reactionary on the moral highground because he declares himself prosecuted before anything happens. It's a classic tactic. See also "99% of you won't be brave enough to share this horribly racist article on facebook!!!!!" i thought he meant the insane punk rock anarchist idea of living via petty theft and scrounging and knowin the One Weird Tricks of the world but on purpose
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This one is actually really funny if you scroll down far enough, because the exact same hashtag was used two years ago to complain that Assassin Creed 3 didn't work, and the language used really hasn't changed much. So you have like thirty tweets by incredibly self-important gamers about Marx being Hitler, then two dozen more from some incredibly self-important gamer about how gamers are the true shareholders of ubisoft and they're being robbed. The more things change the more they stay the same.
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Wow, do they understand what marxism is?...
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"It's bad" is as far as their understanding usually goes.
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- video games where you play the Wehrmacht, a plague that will murder every single human being in the world, the king of the undead who wishes to destroy every living being, gang warfare leaders, sociopathic rampage killers, or actually literally Stalin: it's okay man, we can separate fact from fiction. - video game where you can meet the guy whose idea that it's maybe not so cool that 14 year old boys are breaking their backs working the coal mines for the ruling rich partially inspired Stalin: THE OUTRAGE, THIS IS A SCANDAL, I AM BEING BRAIN WASHED INTO MASS MURDERER SUPPORT, BOYCOTT THIS Can Scott or Clark Hat please write something to explain to me how this totally makes sense?
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Pierson posted:Marx being Hitler
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Pierson posted:This one is actually really funny if you scroll down far enough, because the exact same hashtag was used two years ago to complain that Assassin Creed 3 didn't work, and the language used really hasn't changed much. So you have like thirty tweets by incredibly self-important gamers about Marx being Hitler, then two dozen more from some incredibly self-important gamer about how gamers are the true shareholders of ubisoft and they're being robbed. The more things change the more they stay the same.
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Cingulate posted:- video games where you play the Wehrmacht, a plague that will murder every single human being in the world, the king of the undead who wishes to destroy every living being, gang warfare leaders, sociopathic rampage killers, or actually literally Stalin: it's okay man, we can separate fact from fiction. Devil's advocate mode, on! In something like Pandemic 2, or a WWII strategy (not FPS) game, you don't meaningfully emotionally identify with the protagonist and the things he/she/it does. The king of the undead is totally disconnected from reality. Games where the protagonist is a gang leader or serial killer are the least defensible, but in that case there's a difference of scale, and support for serial killers as a political ideology is even more marginal than communism.
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If you're saying that playing a video game wherein the protagonist mass-murders thousands and emotionally identifying with and even moral supporting him are one in the same, then I have so many moral sins to answer for  .Perhaps the real message here is that any message you take away from a video game/book/movie/any piece of media is whatever you make of it. I mean, you can totally read The Animal Farm and walk away thinking its an interesting and somewhat quirky story about farm animals if you'd like. I could sit down and torture myself by watching Christian films, and take away the message that people who direct these things ought to be shot.
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Games like Civilization have genocide as a win state and these people don't object to it so I'm not really sure what their problem is here. More seriously, though, the Errant Signal piece on the assumptions built into Civ games is pretty good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBlEscMLjy0
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Silver2195 posted:Devil's advocate mode, on!
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Heresiarch posted:Games like Civilization have genocide as a win state and these people don't object to it so I'm not really sure what their problem is here. It's p. good.
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Cingulate posted:I don't even think you've made a coherent point so far. I've literally played Stalin's top general in C&C Red Alert, and Wehrmacht generals in CoH. At least the latter was a much more realistic scenario than the steam punk it seems Assassins' Creed is, and then there's a bit of a difference between literally leading the army that literally murdered 10 or so million Eastern Europeans, and doing one hit job for the guy whose philosophy was partially cited in support of Stalinism.
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Nessus posted:So wait, is all this angst because Karl Marx gives you a mission in Assassin's Creed? Most of it. The rest is right-wing people being mad about Assassin's Creed for even less sensible reasons.
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Silver2195 posted:Most of it. The rest is right-wing people being mad about Assassin's Creed for even less sensible reasons.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:So because you think they might agree with someone's politics, they are therefore GGers? I thought this thread was for making fun of paranoid nerds. Nessus posted:So wait, is all this angst because Karl Marx gives you a mission in Assassin's Creed? Silver2195 posted:Most of it. The rest is right-wing people being mad about Assassin's Creed for even less sensible reasons.  
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I'm not sure these guys would particularly enjoy the dick-measuring contest if we compared to capitalism or colonialism. Maybe we can agree that mistakes were made, and admire Marx for his impressive beard.
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All the people colonialism and capitalism killed had it coming, you see. Pretend I posted the Rand bit about genociding Native Americans, I'm phone posting and lazy as gently caress.
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Nessus posted:I'm not sure these guys would particularly enjoy the dick-measuring contest if we compared to capitalism or colonialism. Maybe we can agree that mistakes were made, and admire Marx for his impressive beard.
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Guys I'm losing track. What actually is the difference between NRx and extreme contemporary libertarianism?
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Cingulate posted:Guys I'm losing track. What actually is the difference between NRx and extreme contemporary libertarianism? Avatars of old dead guys and use of the word "prog"
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Avatars of old dead guys and use of the word "prog"
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Hasn't a secondary point of every assassin's creed game been to place people into the moral ambiguity of the era, and actually show just a little real history?
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Matt Forney is the perfect representative of Twitter randos, because he looks like an egg.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Avatars of old dead guys and use of the word "prog" The Randian ubermensch will be crushed beneath the statist power of my 13-minute Minimoog solo. ikanreed posted:Hasn't a secondary point of every assassin's creed game been to place people into the moral ambiguity of the era, and actually show just a little real history? Reactionaries can't comprehend moral ambiguity. You think all that "Dark Lord" nonsense is in jest? Even the "dark" bits are just fairy-tale morality with the ultimate good and ultimate evil swapped around so Sauron is the good guy. Woolie Wool has a new favorite as of 14:45 on Oct 27, 2015 |
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Cingulate posted:Guys I'm losing track. What actually is the difference between NRx and extreme contemporary libertarianism? Not much, since a lot of Moldbug's ideas obviously come from Hans-Herman Hoppe. I think the talk about Carlyle is mostly posturing to make it seem like he's reviving a forgotten/suppressed philosophical school.
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We must expunge the communist cultural marxist gay liberals, isn't that right waifu? *strokes body pillow slowly, trembling with rage*
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:We must expunge the communist cultural marxist gay liberals, isn't that right waifu? *strokes body pillow slowly, trembling with rage* And Nix and, admittedly, contemporary and Radian libertarianism, is all about the pink terror.
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Cingulate posted:See, that's a thing - consequent libertarianism means violent toleration of homosexuality. "Degeneracy" isn't really a prominent topic in genuinely libertarian philosophy. Libertarianism in the sense of Nozick would be in support of libertarians. (In Germany, the Liberal party, which is closest in spirit to the US libertarians, had a gay leader for years.) Sure, they'd be against any special form of legal projection for homosexuals beyond heterosexuals, but as strongly against any specific discrimination, against disallowing them from doing something heterosexuals are allowed to do. I don't know if it means toleration of homosexuality (or other minorities) beyond government toleration of it, I thought the idea was sure they can't make it illegal but segregation is a-ok because free market something something. Admittedly I don't really know many non-Rand libertarians and all the Rand ones just try to get around the gay question with non-solutions like "Well what if we just make all marriage illegal  "
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American "libertarianism":quote:Consider the Lawrence case decided by the Supreme Court last June. The Court determined that Texas has no right to establish its own standards for private sexual conduct, because these laws violated the court’s interpretation of the 14th Amendment. Regardless of the advisability of such laws, the Constitution does not give the federal government authority to overturn these laws. Under the Tenth Amendment, the state of Texas has the authority to pass laws concerning social matters, using its own local standards, without federal interference. But rather than adhering to the Constitution and declining jurisdiction over a state matter, the Court decided to stretch the "right to privacy" to justify imposing the justices’ vision on the people of Texas. https://web.archive.org/web/20131409041000/http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul197.html
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Heresiarch posted:American "libertarianism":  etc. EDIT: Oh it's Ron Paul I didn't even notice, that makes it even better 
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Cingulate posted:Your avatar is actually a picture of a Prig-Prog, a creature from Lewis Carroll's poem The Jabberwocky. It eats babies and collects taxes. My word.
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:I don't know if it means toleration of homosexuality (or other minorities) beyond government toleration of it, I thought the idea was sure they can't make it illegal but segregation is a-ok because free market something something. Admittedly I don't really know many non-Rand libertarians and all the Rand ones just try to get around the gay question with non-solutions like "Well what if we just make all marriage illegal Well there is a difference between somebody who'd say, I object on philosophical grounds to the government interfering with free market labor practices in the matter of sexual preferences and also I hope the fags get beaten up because I feel uncomfortable when they hold hands in public, and somebody who'd say, I object on philosophical grounds with government interference in fee market labor practices in the matter of sexual preferences, and I'd also protest any government that gives any, especially discriminatory/oppressive, differential treatment to homosexuals. And the latter is, I would say, congruent libertarianism, but not the former. Maybe these two look fairly similar in the current climate though, in practice. Or maybe #2 doesn't truly exist anymore.
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Terrible Opinions posted:I thought the hashtag came from Unity having game breaking bugs, lovely business practices, and laughable excuses for having no playable women characters.
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Cingulate posted:Or maybe #2 doesn't truly exist anymore. Ding ding ding.
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