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The Puppy Bowl posted:Is that really a good side effect of this deal? I'm terrified of Cruz ending up as the compromise candidate of the GOP that panders to the right fringes while whispering the correct sweet nothings in donors' ears. Plus he's a charismatic guy who at least has some experience in the federal government. I don't have enough faith in the electorate seeing him for the extremist psychopath he is, much like Reagan. At least Ronnie had the decency to be most of what he appeared to be and just be a puppet for the truest monsters. Cruz is a monster wearing a puppet's skin. Actually... I mean just about as many GOP members are pissed off at him as democrats unless that changed in the past few months.
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LeeMajors posted:I would posit that Bill Maher is the 'liberal' worth mocking. I don't understand liberals that like Bill Maher. You know, there was a kind of dumb article on a feminist website about the rise of the "brogressive", which I mostly disagreed with largely because it's always been a thing, not a new phenomena. and Maher is the avatar of it. He's a misogynist that peddles Islamophobia and bravely fights against political correctness, for gently caress's sake. Maher is nominally on the left on a significant number of issues, but it's a kind of left that doesn't have any room for people that aren't white men. Maher's prime fans are the kind of atheist that buy into BIOTRUTHS. gently caress all of them and gently caress bill maher.
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Hollismason posted:Speaking of Bernie Bern this is a older article but it is very interesting in that it shows " Yes, Bernie Sanders is in fact a politicians despite all claims otherwise' 
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LeeMajors posted:I would posit that Bill Maher is the 'liberal' worth mocking. Maher is a Libertarian, not a Liberal. He's just a Democratic Libertarian and not a Republican Libertarian. Much like all Libertarians, he is right for about 2 minutes then the crazy starts. Spatula City posted:I don't understand liberals that like Bill Maher... Short attention spans. Pohl fucked around with this message at 08:30 on Oct 27, 2015 |
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Bob Ojeda posted:Cruz cannot win a general election. The only GOP candidate who has a chance in a general election is Jeb and he's being eaten alive by his own party.
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Oct 27, 2015 08:57
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Fojar38 posted:The only GOP candidate who has a chance in a general election is Jeb and he's being eaten alive by his own party.
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Fojar38 posted:The only GOP candidate who has a chance in a general election is Jeb and he's being eaten alive by his own
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If Trump makes it to the general we'll finally have a good benchmark on the question of "Will Americans Accept Fascism"
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The Puppy Bowl posted:
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Grapplejack posted:If Trump makes it to the general we'll finally have a good benchmark on the question of "Will Americans Accept Fascism" I dunno, I think Carson makes a stronger case for theocratic fascism already being accepted in theory.
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TheRamblingSoul posted:I dunno, I think Carson makes a stronger case for theocratic fascism already being accepted in theory. Then we have to define fascism, and you are looking at roughly (a number I pulled out of my rear end) 10 billion posts about what is and isn't fascism. Just calling them both idiots seems easier.
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TheRamblingSoul posted:So, does this new budget deal have the blessing of the HFC? Or are they still going to hold the debt ceiling hostage until everything goes sideways? They've been hinting to Paul Ryan that he should vote against it if he wants to be Speaker.
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A Fox News correspondent got kicked off of Cornell's campus by their media relations team after going around asking students why they think 96% of their professors donated to Democrats and why it's because of liberal indoctrination this week. So expect Carson's asinine comments to say in the news for a while.
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Spatula City posted:I don't understand liberals that like Bill Maher.
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Luigi Thirty posted:A Fox News correspondent got kicked off of Cornell's campus by their media relations team after going around asking students why they think 96% of their professors donated to Democrats and why it's because of liberal indoctrination this week. So expect Carson's asinine comments to say in the news for a while. I love it when News organizations create the news themselves and cut out the middle man.
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AmiYumi posted:Like virtually every affiliation in existence, a number of people's political beliefs extend no further than unexamined Sports Team Rah beliefs, so a guy who goes "gently caress you, Dad!" to the Other Team gets their support over someone else who knows what they're talking about but isn't focused on poo poo-talking. Yeah, Maher is basically a mean cheerleader and he can be genuinely funny when he's on point. I also still give him some credit for being willing to say genuinely unpopular things he honestly believed to be true. I do think Maher is genuinely acting in pursuit of the truth as he sees it and is not just a raw naked partisan, which sets him apart from most right wing pundits. Of course he also says a lot of horribly reprehensible poo poo, especially about Muslims and women. For me he's like the cigar of comedians: horribly bad for you but nevertheless sometimes fun. Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 13:45 on Oct 27, 2015 |
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Yup. Bill Maher makes fun of conservatives, and that's good enough for a lot of people.
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alpha_destroy posted:This is a a page back, but you are lucky. My sex-ed in the glorious state of Kansas literally told me not to use condoms because they don't work. Seriously. They were like "Don't trust condoms! They have a failure rate over 50% for teenagers because teenagers don't know how to use them!" Then they refused to teach us how to use them. Looking back it was loving amazing. Oh we got this too. A wonderful lecture on "The only way to prevent pregnancy is abstinence before marriage!"  and talking about promises to God to remain pure and blah blah blahNo one explained contraception in any detail or taught anyone how to use a condom. A fundie friend of mine (the one I always talk about--'fossils are a devil's trick,' etc) has three kids and basically said that he advocates abstinence-only sex ed because teaching contraception makes you complicit in your children sinning, and shelters them from the righteous consequences of their sin. The less they know, the less culpable you are for their mistakes. It's a profoundly hosed up worldview that is actively harming our children. Not that the religious right gives two actual shits about that. Pohl posted:Maher is a Libertarian, not a Liberal. I thought he self identified as a liberal? Either way he's an unfunny, misogynistic, xenophobic dickhead that somehow got liberal street cred for being atheist. He is insufferable.
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He is the "legalize it" kind of "libertarian", not the Rand Paul kind.
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Here's the full text of the debt ceiling deal.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:He is the "legalize it" kind of "libertarian", not the Rand Paul kind. "it" also meaning "causing whooping cough and measles outbreaks at daycare centers"
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Regarding sex ed, I feel left out. They just showed us a video of a woman giving birth. We didn't have a teen pregnancy problem.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Is that really a good side effect of this deal? I'm terrified of Cruz ending up as the compromise candidate of the GOP that panders to the right fringes while whispering the correct sweet nothings in donors' ears. Plus he's a charismatic guy who at least has some experience in the federal government. I don't have enough faith in the electorate seeing him for the extremist psychopath he is, much like Reagan. At least Ronnie had the decency to be most of what he appeared to be and just be a puppet for the truest monsters. Cruz is a monster wearing a puppet's skin. Actually... Excuse me did you just say that Ted "hated by everyone in Congress" Cruz is a charismatic guy?
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Have we always denied felons from getting SS benefits? Or is that something new put in there to gently caress them over further?
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blue squares posted:Excuse me did you just say that Ted "hated by everyone in Congress" Cruz is a charismatic guy? Charismatic to conservative bible-thumping idiots. "His eyes sparkle with the grace of gawd!" 
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I had very good sex ed in MA and they taught us how to use condoms. My pediatrician on the other hand told me to be abstinent only. Or as he said it "penis in the pants" while wagging his finger.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:And now, a slice of life (it's MSNBC, talking about politics or something) -- watch what you say around Melissa Harris Perry: Going back to this for a moment, she's worth mocking, but not especially over this. Maybe her being a loving crybaby apologizer is the better angle to go at her from, since she's a loving embarrassment to the left. That lithping imbethile.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Here in Florida, Sex Ed was done in gym class. If you were in gifted, you didn't have gym. So I never had sex ed and that's why I'm the goon I am today. When the hell was this? I graduated in 2002 and we had a dedicated "human growth and development" class in high school, and a full quarter of 7th grade science class devoted to covering how babby/syphilis is formed. This wasn't even a particularly metropolitan part of Florida.
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I had decent sex ed from elementary school in 6th grade up through high school. No abstinence bullshit or religious undertones whatsoever. This was in Northern Virginia (a.k.a Washington DC suburb) and back in the '90s : .
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I guess I got lucky. We had sex ed in 6th and 8th grade and they went over all the different forms of birth control, the potential risks, and all the relevant physiology. We also watched the live birth video. Both teachers I had definitely made sure to stress that the only 100% effective form of birth control was to not have sex but there wasn't any religious or YOUR DICK WILL FALL OFF AND YOUR SOUL WILL BE EMPTY nonsense. AFAIK nobody got pregnant until college. This was in a suburb of NYC in the early 2000's.
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Hulk Krogan posted:I guess I got lucky. We had sex ed in 6th and 8th grade and they went over all the different forms of birth control, the potential risks, and all the relevant physiology. We also watched the live birth video. Both teachers I had definitely made sure to stress that the only 100% effective form of birth control was to not have sex but there wasn't any religious or YOUR DICK WILL FALL OFF AND YOUR SOUL WILL BE EMPTY nonsense. AFAIK nobody got pregnant until college. I'm glad my parents were pretty progressive about sex education--and filled me in on the physiological stuff long before then. Others my age weren't so lucky.
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In my rural central-Ohio Catholic elementary school in the mid-80s I had a killer human biology/sex-ed class in fifth grade. A younger couple (who were friends of my parents) came in to teach it. He was a biology/animal husbandry professor at the OSU Ag School in town, and she was a nurse. The brought in tons of materials, huge posters, and a box of colored chalk. By the end of the week we knew everything about how babies are made with full color pictures. We were a little young for contraception, so we basically learned the nuts and bolts of reproduction. It was really cool. That, combined with the fact that my mother was a nurse and always very frank with us, gave me a pretty good base in sex-ed.
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Fun bit of the deal: the Small House Rotunda will now be named the "Freedom Foyer". It was apparently Boehner's idea to include that. 
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Quote of the morning, "Under new management we are not going to do the people's business this way..." ~ Paul Ryan, on the deal.
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Joementum posted:Fun bit of the deal: the Small House Rotunda will now be named the "Freedom Foyer". Is the joke that it's a small, crappy room that Boehner is naming after the freedom caucus?
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Our sex ed was fine (late 90s, Seattle suburb). Most memorable part was gym teacher who showed the birth video rewinding so the baby went back in.
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If Cruz became the nominee he would be obliterated. He's personally responsible for the shutdowns, and loudly so.
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Mojo Threepwood posted:Our sex ed was fine (late 90s, Seattle suburb). Most memorable part was gym teacher who showed the birth video rewinding so the baby went back in. Hey, we've found the Republican solution to abortion! 
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FAUXTON posted:When the hell was this? I graduated in 2002 and we had a dedicated "human growth and development" class in high school, and a full quarter of 7th grade science class devoted to covering how babby/syphilis is formed. This wasn't even a particularly metropolitan part of Florida. I graduated in 2008. We had the "this is your penis and yes it's normal to have one" class in 5th grade but the "how is babby formed" part wasn't handled until middle school and it replaced gym class for a month. This was in suburban Tampa Bay.
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