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tithin posted:Hopefully they earmark another hundred grand to fire him out of a cannon and into the sun. I know they usually cremate the fetuses but that's ridiculous.
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MaliciousOnion posted:I know they usually cremate the fetuses but that's ridiculous. Nice. Very nice.
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Oct 28, 2015 07:47
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Offshore detention costs 1.2 billion dollars but it is money well spent - most Australians
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Oct 28, 2015 08:04
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Well what else are we going to do? I'm sure the government knows best. - most Australians
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Oct 28, 2015 08:07
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It's really quite fascinating how conventional wisdom says ordinary Australians distrust and dislike politicians, yet if something is bipartisan there will not be a peep of protest or even discussion about it amongst 90% of the electorate
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Oct 28, 2015 08:08
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freebooter posted:It's really quite fascinating how conventional wisdom says ordinary Australians distrust and dislike politicians, yet if something is bipartisan there will not be a peep of protest or even discussion about it amongst 90% of the electorate Australians fundamentally fail to understand that two wrongs don't make a right. "If both packs of lying, self serving arseholes agree on it, it must be good!"
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Oct 28, 2015 08:20
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hooman posted:Australians fundamentally fail to understand that two wrongs don't make a right. They're just taking thier English Grammar lessons to heart.
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Oct 28, 2015 08:37
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Every government that has attempted to go against the grain of the Australian public's xenophobia has paid for it politically. Kevin Rudd shut down offshore processing and look where it got him, a speedy uturn to 'if you come by boat you won't settle in Australia' wasnt enough to save him even though in hindsight that's what stopped the boats
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Oct 28, 2015 08:45
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Negligent posted:Every government that has attempted to go against the grain of the Australian public's xenophobia has paid for it politically. There's no proof the boats stopped, influx. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
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Oct 28, 2015 08:49
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freebooter posted:It's really quite fascinating how conventional wisdom says ordinary Australians distrust and dislike politicians, yet if something is bipartisan there will not be a peep of protest or even discussion about it amongst 90% of the electorate There's really a huge range of views on the matter, including a sizeable chunk that think the current policy is far too lenient. The current position isn't something everyone wants, it's something enough people will tolerate.
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Oct 28, 2015 08:52
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Annabel Crabb is looking for good meals and some decent answers in the fifth series of Kitchen Cabinet. Annabel visits Scott Morrison, who has prepared Sri Lankan fish curry, chapattis and samosas - or 'ScoMosas', as his staff hilariously call them. 
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Oct 28, 2015 08:55
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No evidence you say 9.11 was an inside job and the Apollo landings were faked http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/rp/rp1516/Quick_Guides/BoatTurnbacks
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Oct 28, 2015 08:56
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man dutton and the nauraan government are firing with all cannons right now hey
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Oct 28, 2015 09:03
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Negligent posted:No evidence you say 2014–15: figures compiled from ministerial and departmental press releases. Arrivals include: 157 people on board a boat originating from an Indian port and intercepted on 27 July 2014 —the passengers were subsequently transferred to Curtin Detention Centre and then to Nauru for processing (this boat was counted as an arrival, but 41 people on board another boat intercepted at the same time were returned to Sri Lankan authorities at sea); and 1 Sri Lankan national on board a boat intercepted on 15 November 2014 who was referred for refugee determination and transferred to Manus Island for processing (the 37 other passengers were transferred at sea to Sri Lankan authorities and the boat was not counted as an ‘arrival’). Unauthorised maritime arrivals from cruise ships are not included in these statistics. They compiled figures from a department who refuses to release figures.
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Solemn Sloth posted:2014–15: figures compiled from ministerial and departmental press releases. Arrivals include: 157 people on board a boat originating from an Indian port and intercepted on 27 July 2014 —the passengers were subsequently transferred to Curtin Detention Centre and then to Nauru for processing (this boat was counted as an arrival, but 41 people on board another boat intercepted at the same time were returned to Sri Lankan authorities at sea); and 1 Sri Lankan national on board a boat intercepted on 15 November 2014 who was referred for refugee determination and transferred to Manus Island for processing (the 37 other passengers were transferred at sea to Sri Lankan authorities and the boat was not counted as an ‘arrival’). Unauthorised maritime arrivals from cruise ships are not included in these statistics. Dammit you beat me to it. I wonder why the numbers are so low considering the report literally says that the numbers are from published reports and that they totally trust the tiny snippets they've gotten about the rest of the time apropos of nothing.
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Oct 28, 2015 09:06
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If you want to argue that border fart is keeping a secret flotilla of boat arrivals under wraps then go ahead. This is an organisation that can't even keep their own track changes word docs on the d.l., so good luck with that.
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Oct 28, 2015 09:08
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I've got my numbers straight from Goebbels press statements so you can continue with your conspiracy theories about mass extermination and hollow worldism if you want
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iajanus posted:Dammit you beat me to it. Probably because, like the one in July this year, they turn them around and push them back out of our waters. Those don't get counted as arrivals and they're kept hidden from the public so we have no way of knowing how many of them there are.
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QUACKTASTIC posted:Probably because, like the one in July this year, they turn them around and push them back out of our waters. My sarcasm was apparently a little too subtle, but well explained nonetheless.
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Oct 28, 2015 09:12
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Well if the point is that border fart are bad at transparency that is a valid point A semantic debate about whether the boats have stopped - reduced to literally zero- is dumb but what do you expect from a mentally deficient gently caress like muyb
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Negligent posted:If you want to argue that border fart is keeping a secret flotilla of boat arrivals under wraps then go ahead. If you want to argue that scott morrison, tony abbott and peter dutton wouldn't have gotten "0 boats" tattooed on their dicks and waved them at the press gallery if they could then go ahead.
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Solemn Sloth posted:If you want to argue that scott morrison, tony abbott and peter dutton wouldn't have gotten "0 boats" tattooed on their dicks and waved them at the press gallery if they could then go ahead. Thanks for reiterating what an utter cretin you are
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Negligent posted:Well if the point is that border fart are bad at transparency that is a valid point It's not a semantic debate about the nature of zero. It is about the fact that the department has a policy of not releasing data about boat arrivals. You for some reason choose to believe that this is because there have been no arrivals, despite the fact that every member of the liberal party would sell their asses to be able to give out regular press briefings saying that there were zero arrivals.
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Solemn Sloth posted:It's not a semantic debate about the nature of zero. It is about the fact that the department has a policy of not releasing data about boat arrivals. Keep doubling down buddy
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Oct 28, 2015 09:20
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The liberal party didn't go one single day in opposition without talking about the number of boats that arrive. The liberal party as part of their election platform promise to reduce the number of boats to zero. The liberal party upon being elected institute a platform of never confirming the number of people to arrive by boat. Only someone as dumb as you would use these facts to conclude that the boats have successfully been stopped.
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iajanus posted:My sarcasm was apparently a little too subtle, but well explained nonetheless. Sorry, in my defence I was reading Negligent's posts
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SynthOrange posted:Annabel Crabb is looking for good meals and some decent answers in the fifth series of Kitchen Cabinet. A great segue to discuss the Sri Lankan war crimes that Morrison and the Abbott government were complicit in. I'm sure Annabel Crabb won't miss this opportunity.
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I uhh.. http://winstonclose.me/2015/10/28/bill-shorten-to-resign-as-labor-leader-written-by-the-red-and-blue-org/ LABOR “LEADER” Bill Shorten is set to resign his post, and possibly from Parliament, next month; with the ALP now recording poll numbers commensurate with his abysmal performance and set to be hit by fallout from the Royal Commission into the unions, Shorten’s departure will terminate a shameful era for Labor. The move raises questions around timing, and of who will replace him to face a snap double dissolution in December or early 2016. We generally do not break news in this column — mainly because I simply don’t have the resources at present to operate as a journalist on a fulltime basis — but this morning is an exception, and whilst we will relay the news in the conversational discussion style readers are familiar with, the details are very much an early break on a developing story. Usually reliable sources report that the ALP is preparing for the imminent resignation of its “leader,” Bill Shorten, during one of the two parliamentary sessions scheduled for November. The development comes in the wake of the leadership change at the Liberal Party, with new Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull now outscoring Shorten in some polls as “preferred Prime Minister” by a four-to-one margin, and ahead of the likely release of the final report by the Royal Commission into union corruption and misconduct in either November or December. It is unclear at this stage whether Shorten intends to recontest his seat of Maribyrnong, in Melbourne’s inner north-west, at the looming federal election, although this column understands there is a distinct possibility he will resign from Parliament altogether. News of Shorten’s intention to vacate the Labor leadership comes as the ALP’s opinion poll numbers have collapsed on trend beyond the woeful 33.4% primary vote it scored at the 2013 election under Kevin Rudd, and we understand just one further round of shocking polling could be decisive in determining Shorten’s position. It is understood that rather than face a leadership challenge in the ALP caucus, Shorten will stand aside voluntarily. The prospect of Shorten’s imminent departure as Labor “leader” comes as little surprise; the motivation for it, however, and the identity of his replacement remain matters for conjecture at present. Already adversely named in testimony before the Royal Commission, it is possible Shorten — irrespective of whether charges are recommended against him — may elect to vacate the Labor leadership to provide a fresh start for a new leader, freed of the lingering malodorous effects of the dirty union linen that has been aired. It is not known whether Shorten has advance knowledge of any possible action to be recommended against him and/or his associates from his past career as a union official, or whether such a consideration has motivated his mooted resignation, and this column makes no suggestion or implication to that effect. Either way, it is understood that a replacement Labor leader will be chosen with a single candidate nominating for the post, avoiding the need for a messy, protracted and potentially divisive campaign lasting weeks or months, and avoiding the risk of a snap election being called whilst the ALP is — quite literally — leaderless. It is unclear at this point who the new Labor leader is to be: however, factional considerations dictate that the Left cannot simultaneously hold both the leadership and the deputy leadership (ruling out a ticket comprising Anthony Albanese and Tanya Plibersek); Chris Bowen is known to want to wait longer before contesting a leadership ballot, meaning he is likely to run as deputy to either Albanese or to Plibersek. This column understands that as soon as Shorten announces his resignation, preparations to engineer a double dissolution election that are currently afoot in Liberal Party circles will be activated; the timing of the election will to a large degree depend on the timing of Shorten’s departure as Labor “leader.” The last practicable date on which to hold an election this year is Saturday 19 December, and for constitutional reasons, such an election would need to be called on or before Tuesday 17 November. Federal Parliament is due to sit twice in November: from the 9th to the 12th, and again from the 23rd until 3 December: clearly, unless Shorten’s resignation occurs before or during the first of those sitting weeks, any election will be delayed until the new year. Should that occur, it is understood a polling date in late February or early March is under active consideration. This timeframe — and the need to be ready, should Shorten pull the pin sooner rather than later — places an obligation on the government to reintroduce whichever of its stalled bills is necessary to the Senate, with great urgency, to provide desired double dissolution triggers that can then be passed at a joint sitting: the Registered Organisations Bill, which if passed will enforce the same regulations and standards of governance upon the union movement as the business community is already subjected to, being chief among them. But on the other hand, an election at the end of this year or early next carries the prospect of substantial adverse findings against union and ALP figures providing a backdrop to the campaign, against which the ALP will struggle to present a palatable or credible offering to voters. By way of commentary, I offer that Shorten has been a poor “leader:” this column has consistently refused to acknowledge him without qualification as the leader of his party, when even Julia Gillard and Kevin Rudd were thus acknowledged. Bill Shorten — lampooned in this column as “Billy Bullshit,” with good reason — isn’t a leader’s bootlace. Shorten’s tenure as Labor “leader” represents a shameful period in ALP history, driven as it has been by blatant attempts to stoke class warfare and envy among Australians, punctuated by mindlessly obstructionist Senate tactics in cohort with the Communist Party Greens and a willing crossbench composed mostly of supposed conservative independents and minor parties, and publicly articulated in fundamentally dishonest terms that have lowered the bar for standards of political decency in this country and unforgivably assumed of voters the lack of intelligence or perception to see through the contemptible tactics on show. A self-acknowledged liar who has admitted to deceptive and untrustworthy conduct among his colleagues is unfit to hold the leadership of his party, let alone the great office of Prime Minister, and Shorten — in the absence of Tony Abbott, whom Labor personally demonised and defamed for years — is regarded in reputable opinion polling by voters with the contempt he deserves now he has been judged solely on his own merits in the absence of the frenzy his party whipped up around Abbott. If Labor is smart, it will replace Shorten with Plibersek and give her two attempts to win for the ALP; if it is predictable, it will instead anoint Albanese. Both offer tantalising contests against Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull: Albanese representing the product of a not-dissimilar background that evolved in a very different direction, and Plibersek (her gender notwithstanding) being a warrior of the Left on many of the issues Turnbull is noted for championing from the Right. But either way, the departure of Shorten from senior political life will be no loss whatsoever to this country, and in the big scheme of things won’t matter a tin of beans. Shorten isn’t even yesterday’s man, unless your preference yesterday was for a lying, scheming, manipulative union thug with a penchant for burying axes between the shoulder blades of those supposedly closest to him. The prospect of Shorten as Prime Minister should horrify even those most apathetic about politics; the emphasis of the ALP in stoking envy, hatred of success and war between classes on his watch has placed a great stain on that party, and Shorten’s tenure at its helm will come to be viewed by Labor people as a matter of deep embarrassment that dishonoured it. Nobody will miss Shorten when he is gone. This column is waiting, eagerly, for the anointed day to arrive.
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I'll believe it when I see it, rather than reading it on a random blog.quote:Shorten’s tenure as Labor “leader” represents a shameful period in ALP history, driven as it has been by blatant attempts to stoke class warfare and envy among Australians, punctuated by mindlessly obstructionist Senate tactics in cohort with the 
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'Stoke class warfare' like when the poignant consequence of binning penalty rates was not being able to send your kids to private school?  Edit: I guess ignoring the working poor who stand to actually lose vastly more could be considered class warfare Magog fucked around with this message at 11:25 on Oct 28, 2015 |
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I do wish that disgruntled screed backed up its claim with slightly more than vague references to reliable sources.
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Paul Murray had a huge whining op-ed in the West today because someone in a senate estimates hearing used the word segue and he didn't know what it meant.
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Mithranderp posted:Lol ABC, "What would you say is the approximate value of all property owned or mortgaged by you?" Doesn't seem to matter that much, I had less then $250K (as in $0) and managed to go from established working to to emerging affluent just by changing the who I know section (forgot about a group of friends I hang out with who will be first against the wall apparently.) Vladimir Poutine posted:I do wish that disgruntled screed backed up its claim with slightly more than vague references to reliable sources. Hey, I have a reliable source who told me that reliable sources are alway utterly reliable. 
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First Dog: Warning: The following image presents an elevated risk of elevated kittens. Viewer discretion is advised. 
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Murodese posted:Paul Murray had a huge whining op-ed in the West today because someone in a senate estimates hearing used the word segue and he didn't know what it meant. My brothers a lawyer and only figured recently that segue is pronounced segway - like he read it heaps, but never really put it and the word you hear together. I think it was a podcast with Leigh Sales that made him twig.
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I listen to ABC RN at work, and recently I've started hearing these god-awful advertising spots for a First Dog radio show. He won't be satisfied until he's conquered all our senses! (gently caress First Dog.)
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Crescendo posted:I listen to ABC RN at work, and recently I've started hearing these god-awful advertising spots for a First Dog radio show. Go home Chris Kenny, you're drunk
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Bitches better watch out CK is on the prowl
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How stupid would a person have to be to believe the lnp have actually "stopped the boats" E: lmfap quote:Australian government officials may have engaged in people smuggling, by allegedly paying the crew of an asylum seeker boat to return its passengers to Indonesia, an Amnesty International investigation has found. SMILLENNIALSMILLEN fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Oct 28, 2015 |
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katlington posted:How stupid would a person have to be to believe the lnp have actually "stopped the boats" To answer my own question, pretty loving stupid.  D
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