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Victor Surge posted:People are saying there's an undocumented change to the gun skills in test so it only applies to 130mm or less instead of 155mm. Sucks to the Nagato!
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Deutsch Nozzle posted:Those skills are already pretty useless as it is with the low-caliber restriction. Why make it even worse? wdarkk posted:Sucks to the Nagato!
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Oct 28, 2015 20:26
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I got that prem DD: I kinda like it!
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Oct 28, 2015 21:03
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Deutsch Nozzle posted:Those skills are already pretty useless as it is with the low-caliber restriction. Why make it even worse? Except not at all? They were pretty common picks for cruisers even in CBT, when the skill was explicitly limited to secondaries. Hell, they were reasonably common picks for battleships too, and only some really got much use out of secondaries(mostly high tier Japanese ones). At equal tier, that AA boost to efficiency and range actually does make a fairly decent difference, ESPECIALLY for cruisers and Defensive Fire. It helps when facing +1 tier CVs too, so long as your base values are somewhat decent. Honestly, and it's been said here before, the skill really should just be rolled back to secondaries only again, without all this trying to find just the right balance of which caliber of gun should be affected, and which shouldn't.
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Oct 28, 2015 21:44
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Deutsch Nozzle posted:Those skills are already pretty useless as it is with the low-caliber restriction. Why make it even worse? ? The 2 most powerful cruisers at tier are the T6 Cleveland and T8 Mogami. Both utilize basic + advanced firing training for extra DPS and range on their 155mm guns, major factors in their strength. A large number of cruisers at low tiers get fairly big boosts from AFT if nobody else has it. Dropping it to 130mm means it helps all DDs still, while avoiding almost all mid, and all (barring the Atlanta) high tier cruisers. If it still applies to all secondaries, then BBs taking it for secondary boosts are unaffected. This is essentially a Cleveland/Mogami nerf, which is 100% great.
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Oct 28, 2015 22:38
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Oct 28, 2015 23:19
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No need to play more ranked battles at this season  
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Oct 29, 2015 00:01
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155 mm Mogami will be hit the hardest due to reduced range (18.08 -> 15.07 km), turret transverse (30 -> 42.84 s with skill) and RoF (6.6 -> 6 RPM). You won't be able to wiggle around its rear end at 15+ km dodging shells while shooting HE for nonstop fire any more come 0.5.1. You could still do it at 12+ km but you'll need to account for slow turret rotation and take higher risk against incoming shells. It will also nerf Cleveland, Omaha and Murmansk (and bunch of lower tier ships but they don't matter much), but at lower tier they don't require or have no use for extended range and turret rotation anyway. Drop in RPM might suck a bit though. The only unaffected cruiser will be Atlanta, but Atlanta needs to risk itself in order to hit unlike current 155 mm Mogami. Overall it's a good change that doesn't make certain ships overpowered.
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Oct 29, 2015 00:04
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I wish WoWS was more popular in NA, I think the most I've ever seen online is about 8000 players. During off-times there's less than 3000 players online, it sucks so hard.
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orange juche posted:I wish WoWS was more popular in NA, I think the most I've ever seen online is about 8000 players. During off-times there's less than 3000 players online, it sucks so hard.
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Oct 29, 2015 00:08
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I stopped playing because I got tired of the credit grind. XP grind is fine, I dont have a problem with that but that credit grind ugh.
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Oct 29, 2015 00:18
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Aesis posted:I stopped playing because it was getting boring (thanks pubbies) and not many people queuing up for tier 8+ during off-peak.
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cheese posted:I played a bunch of Ibuki tier 9 games 2 nights ago and I swear I got that XXMushroomXX guy and his 3 man division at least 1/3 of the games.  e: Some Korean users bitching that Wargaming should reset captain skill points for free because of the change 
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Oct 29, 2015 00:30
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orange juche posted:I wish WoWS was more popular in NA, I think the most I've ever seen online is about 8000 players. During off-times there's less than 3000 players online, it sucks so hard. I've definitely seen totals >=14000 on the NA server, so it might just be whenever you're playing. Hell, just got on to check the current number, and I'm seeing ~12000. Aesis posted:155 mm Mogami will be hit the hardest due to reduced range (18.08 -> 15.07 km), turret transverse (30 -> 42.84 s with skill) and RoF (6.6 -> 6 RPM). You won't be able to wiggle around its rear end at 15+ km dodging shells while shooting HE for nonstop fire any more come 0.5.1. You could still do it at 12+ km but you'll need to account for slow turret rotation and take higher risk against incoming shells. Pretty sure the turret skill has always been set at 155 mm, so that would definitely be a radical change if they're tweaking that one too. And one that is probably not needed with them removing the two that were changed when OBT started.
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Oct 29, 2015 00:54
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I have no problem with the change, so long as they free reset our captain points like in CBT.
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Oct 29, 2015 02:13
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After 6 straight losses in a row, I finally get my double... Which happens to be the round where the skycancer immediately goes after the top tier battleship(me) and I end up only being able to do 6k damage in total 
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Oct 29, 2015 02:59
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Wow that change to AFT sucks. At least im almost through the Mogami, but yeah they better offer a skill point reset, so I can grab Demo Expert instead. I never thought the range bonus was a big problem on the Cleveland, its tough to even hit a BB past 15km. Always thought it was far more overpowered on like the Murmansk. Combined with a spotter plane you could get some lucky 18km+ fires on Wyomings, New Yorks, and New Mexicos sailing in a straight line
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Asehujiko posted:After 6 straight losses in a row, I finally get my double... Which happens to be the round where the skycancer immediately goes after the top tier battleship(me) and I end up only being able to do 6k damage in total I sure hope you have an Atlanta.
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Hazdoc posted:Mmm yes, another for the anti-CV hate group. I'll process your application immediately, so we can get to discussing just how badly the Midway should get nerfed, and draw up plans for when the Enterprise is eventually made a premium. Sorry, CVs are at best a nuisance and at worst, game ruining. At least WoT had the decency to make arty super vulnerable to light tank rushes and not make you watch the artillery shell slowly fly towards your helpless tank. 20+ people in WoWs are playing the guns game, maneuvering for shots, putting out fires, angling their ships, leading their targets, watching reload timers, dropping in and out of visibility and 2-4 people are just playing an RTS whack a mole from the safety of the corner of the map. Carrier design in WoWs is bad and generally unfun for most of the players.
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Oct 29, 2015 04:25
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As someone who mostly uses the Cleveland, I don't find CVs all that bothersome. 
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Oct 29, 2015 04:55
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Have I mentioned I hate the Yorck?  Honestly I've determined it's the shell arc. I can't do damage in the ship because anyone with half a brain will just wiggle and dodge these shells as they enter and exit the upper atmosphere.
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cheese posted:Sorry, CVs are at best a nuisance and at worst, game ruining. At least WoT had the decency to make arty super vulnerable to light tank rushes and not make you watch the artillery shell slowly fly towards your helpless tank. 20+ people in WoWs are playing the guns game, maneuvering for shots, putting out fires, angling their ships, leading their targets, watching reload timers, dropping in and out of visibility and 2-4 people are just playing an RTS whack a mole from the safety of the corner of the map. Carrier design in WoWs is bad and generally unfun for most of the players. Would you like to join the group as well? If you think I think carriers aren't anything but toxic bullshit, especially at high tiers, you obviously haven't read any of my rants on CVs
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What's the deal with the Gnevny torp upgrade? You spend 3100 xp and 260k credits to go from 64 to 65 knots of speed?
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Oct 29, 2015 11:03
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Hazdoc posted:Would you like to join the group as well? I'd care more about CV's if they were actually in more than half of my games... since the balancing patch, they're rarely there, making my AA ships pretty useless in most games.
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Oct 29, 2015 12:29
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I still don't understand how AA and invis firing guns is a fun gameplay idea, it sounds about as boring as playing the cleveland. So I kinda don't get the point of the Russian and US DDs being in game. Basically this game has lovely balance and is full of lovely role ideas, which is probably why it's an even worse game than tanks.
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Is the CV scourge more on weekends or something? I have a Tirpitz that should be seeing its fair share of Midway's, but I hardly ever do. Generally, with a few exceptions, it's Iowa's and Izumo's that are the top tier.
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Oct 29, 2015 14:47
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I think Premium ships get better MM, not sure if that means reduced chance of seeing +2 Tier's though. For some premiums I believe instead of being able to see +2 you can only see +1. At least I think this is how it was at some point, not sure if still the case.
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I've seen T7 matches in my Marblehead and I've definitely seen Tirpitzes in matches with T10s as well, so I'm a bit dubious of that. I was under the impression it was simply priority MM, so you get moved to the front of the queue when you're looking for a game.
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Oct 29, 2015 15:34
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Hazdoc posted:Would you like to join the group as well? Oddly, I barely had any games with CV's in them while playing the Nagato last night. I wonder if requiring them to be balanced with another CV has made CV queue times long, which might make people queue for them less.
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Oct 30, 2015 00:43
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So am I not supposed to use HE at all with the konigsberg?
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deratomicdog posted:So am I not supposed to use HE at all with the konigsberg? Throwing HE with any German ship is basically a waste of a finger click, although sometimes the AP just won't pen and HE comes in handy
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Oct 30, 2015 01:19
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I got within secondary range of a Phantom Fortress and instead of the normal, somewhat ineffective secondary fire that I was expecting, a stream of shells vomited forth Atlanta-style and obliterated my half-health Gnevny in 3 accurate volleys. Took maybe 12 seconds.  So, uh, keep your distance from those things.
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Oct 30, 2015 03:54
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Is the NA server really low pop? I just spent 2 minutes in the queue as a tier 9 and the game I finally got was 7v7.
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cheese posted:Is the NA server really low pop? I just spent 2 minutes in the queue as a tier 9 and the game I finally got was 7v7. It's kind of hard to find games at high tiers unless you're on during peak hours or something. If you don't see a five-digit "currently playing" number then weird things will happen.
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Fergus posted:Throwing HE with any German ship is basically a waste of a finger click, although sometimes the AP just won't pen and HE comes in handy Kolberg AP is garbage and sometimes won't pen destroyers, shooting HE out of it all the time is the only way to get through it
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Made a pubbie mad after I got a magazine detonation off on his tier 7 jap destroyer with my konigsberg. He started poo poo talking me up and down the match, so after I finally got knocked out by a cleveland, I looked up his stats, pointed out he has a 45% win rate and is a detriment to any team he plays on. He got angry enough to message me after the match and say I must be a noob because I have a poo poo registration date. He blocked me after I started linking him screenshots from alpha testing. I may have lost the match and a few brain cells, but I won the arguement. 
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Oct 30, 2015 08:57
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Winning the argument is all that matters.
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wdarkk posted:It's kind of hard to find games at high tiers unless you're on during peak hours or something. If you don't see a five-digit "currently playing" number then weird things will happen. Their MM sucks and the high tier playerbase is simply too small because this game is a boring, grindy mess. Does anyone here actually enjoy tier7+ ?
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Tahirovic posted:Their MM sucks and the high tier playerbase is simply too small because this game is a boring, grindy mess. Does anyone here actually enjoy tier7+ ? I sorta do.
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