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Is there a good quick and dirty write-up about this end times business? I started reading some wiki but it went into way too much detail and was way too long.
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Oct 28, 2015 21:43
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Comrayn posted:Is there a good quick and dirty write-up about this end times business? I started reading some wiki but it went into way too much detail and was way too long. Everything goes extremely stupid, everyone dies pointlessly and Chaos wins at the last minute because of a deus ex machina, and then the world is destroyed and reduced to a much stupider, more boring place.
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Oct 28, 2015 21:45
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Can blue pistols actually one-hit-kill clanrats on Hard and above again (without headshots, that is)? That's really only my one annoyance with the green ones I have now.
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Oct 28, 2015 21:48
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That Italian Guy posted:I am sad. I've just ran an Hard Horn map and the pubbies I was with insisted on using the horn glitch to win it Where there is a will, there is a way. I have done the ammo box sacrifice thing several times (I like doing it because I can play at being Horatius and try to 1v10000 the rats as long as I can  ) but it sucks that it kind of ruins what is an otherwise fun set piece. I guess it's the natural human response to being given something with any balls in terms of difficulty, you take the easy way out if it gets the same resultSadly there isn't a great way to fix that problem, and it has some obvious drawbacks (namely gasrats). To me the best way to counter it would be to move the last tome into the arena
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Oct 28, 2015 21:52
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That Italian Guy posted:I am sad. I've just ran an Hard Horn map and the pubbies I was with insisted on using the horn glitch to win it Make sure you are carrying the tome/grimoire and threaten to dump the grim unless they satisfy your demands.
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Oct 28, 2015 21:53
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I think if people weren't so hosed when they lose the end of map events people would be less inclined to cheese it. You just spent 30 minutes dragging your bloodied dick through the mud to get their and if you fail, grats on some useless xp that doesn't matter. You should get a number of dice at the end of the game based on how far you got so if you got to the event but wiped you get 5 dice instead of 6 or something.
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Oct 28, 2015 21:57
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Comrayn posted:Is there a good quick and dirty write-up about this end times business? I started reading some wiki but it went into way too much detail and was way too long. Basically what Night10194 said but here is a quick and dirty... 1) The four Chaos Gods unite. Previously they had been squandering their strength by fighting each other just as often as outsiders. Kind of like Orks. 2) The End Times begin. Chaos Undivided essentially begins assaulting the entire world. The Skaven join in as they are basically chaos spawn in origin. 3) Pretty much the entire rest of the world, even undead factions, unite either directly or on "enemy of my enemy" basis to fight Chaos. 4) Stuff happens, the big Chaos hero personally slays a whole bunch of super important people like Karl Franz (the Emperor) for example. Bretonnia is swallowed in a tide of rats. 5) The Chaos moon slams into the planet, fracturing it to pieces. 6) Age of Sigmar begins.
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Oct 28, 2015 21:57
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"Rocks fall, everyone dies." Sounds really cool.
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Oct 28, 2015 21:59
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Lemming posted:"Rocks fall, everyone dies." Games Workshop is the dumbest company on this god blessed earth. Nothing new.
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Oct 28, 2015 22:03
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Lemming posted:"Rocks fall, everyone dies." Try not to think about it while playing Vermintide 
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Oct 28, 2015 22:04
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Chomp8645 posted:Try not to think about it while playing Vermintide Nah, its cool. This is an alternate universe where the bro-team of Bardin and Kruber (with sidekick Feugonasa and crusty old Saltzpyre) save the city and then go on to save the world. Also, Kruber's family is fine, and Bardin finds his treasure. 
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Oct 28, 2015 22:05
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Luckily this game opens up the opportunity for change. The entire skaven and chaos hordes are found dead in front of a lone witch hunter parked behind an ammo box, a mountain of pistols lying around him.
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Oct 28, 2015 22:05
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Chomp8645 posted:5) The Chaos moon slams into the planet, fracturing it to pieces. This could use a bit more explanation. One of the Skaven clans (the magic ones) casts some spell to pull the chaos moon closer, to increase the power of their spells. However, another Skaven clan gets upset at this, and fires a giant laser at the moon because they think they'll be able to pick up all the pieces of cheese. The fragments of the moon begin falling to the ground and kill a lot of things, while the Slaan try to deflect as much as they can. Specifically, they direct a bunch of stuff that was going to hit the Old World into the Skaven empire that shot the moon, killing them all. Then Chaos does something, blows up the warp gates at the poles, and the rest of the planet goes boom/gets sucked into the warp. Galaga Galaxian posted:Nah, its cool. This is an alternate universe where the bro-team of Bardin and Kruber (with sidekick Feugonasa and crusty old Saltzpyre) save the city and then go on to save the world. What happened to the elf?
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Oct 28, 2015 22:05
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Oh and a big part of that happens off-screen, too. And then there's age of lets put ultramarines in fantasigmar. Skandranon posted:What happened to the elf? Pulled a stormvermin patrol and died in the city while the rest of the party was fleeing ubersreik.
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Oct 28, 2015 22:06
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Skandranon posted:What happened to the elf? What elf? They haven't added the High Elf yet. Galaga Galaxian fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Oct 28, 2015 |
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Oct 28, 2015 22:07
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I really love the notion that the Skaven are so completely retarded for magic uranium and yet so completely fractured that even when their god calls them up and tells them to straighten up and band together, they still can't resist fighting over the best way to gently caress everyone over with the magic uranium moon.
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Oct 28, 2015 22:09
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For all the bad stuff in The End Times, the Skaven plan to blow up the moon and the undead toad deflecting everything before taking off in his aztec rocket ship was probably the best. That and Settra telling the other undead to gently caress off.
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Oct 28, 2015 22:10
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Chomp8645 posted:Try not to think about it while playing Vermintide The best thing to do is to pretend Age of Sigmar doesn't exist and buy things based on the older, superior WHF. AKA Vermintide and Total Warhammer.
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Oct 28, 2015 22:12
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Skandranon posted:This could use a bit more explanation. One of the Skaven clans (the magic ones) casts some spell to pull the chaos moon closer, to increase the power of their spells. However, another Skaven clan gets upset at this, and fires a giant laser at the moon because they think they'll be able to pick up all the pieces of cheese. The fragments of the moon begin falling to the ground and kill a lot of things, while the Slaan try to deflect as much as they can. Specifically, they direct a bunch of stuff that was going to hit the Old World into the Skaven empire that shot the moon, killing them all. Out of curiosity from someone who never played Fantasy, how was all of this revealed? Was there a series of End Times official books, or did the next generation's rule book go "rocks fall everyone dies now fantasymarines"
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Oct 28, 2015 22:13
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Out of curiosity from someone who never played Fantasy, how was all of this revealed? Was there a series of End Times official books, or did the next generation's rule book go "rocks fall everyone dies now fantasymarines" I mainly picked it up from some wikis and people bitching about how dumb AoS is from the Total War: Warhammer thread, but I believe there were a bunch of novels written to fill all this stuff in. Poorly.
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Oct 28, 2015 22:15
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49 hours in and I finally get an orange zweihander for the Witch Hunter, with 5% Regrowth (Normal), 45.5% Second Wind, and 3% Heroic Killing Blow. A good sword. Most obviously though, the damage increase over previous tiers is kind of nuts. All compared to a white zweihander,    Still takes 3-4 hits to kill a clan rat on cataclysm 
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Oct 28, 2015 22:22
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Captain Gordon posted:People who care about loot in this game are dumb, confirm/deny? Confirmed, but I think that the screaming about "MAH LOOTS" would be less if they just gave every hero white versions of all their alternate weapons. That way people can tailor their play style on each hero to their liking, and the loot would just be stat upgrades.
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Oct 28, 2015 22:30
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Skandranon posted:I mainly picked it up from some wikis and people bitching about how dumb AoS is from the Total War: Warhammer thread, but I believe there were a bunch of novels written to fill all this stuff in. Poorly. There was also a series of expansions to the main line, each of which came in a set of two books. One with a timeline of events and a lot of the fluffier stuff, one with updated army lists and scenarios reflecting the first book. At the end of the last one (Archaon) they just sort of laid out the end of the world and the slightest hint of a potential future. I don't remember if there was ever a scenario describing the final battle or if it just went "CONGLATURATION, YOU HAVE COMPLETED A GREAT GAME. THE END"
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Oct 28, 2015 22:30
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moths posted:That was End Times, and they had crazy big-brain pilot rats grafted onto them. If nothing else they got plenty of fun Skaven units to add in the future. Hmm, adding some different "basic" enemies on the higher difficulties to take the place of skaven slaves and clan rats, or enhance them with various buffs would be interesting. Kinda like how Payday switches out the lowly blues instead of just cribbing from L4D. Getting Night runners (mook version of Gutter runners), some sort of Shield-wall-Vermin/Skaven Champion and those crazy skaven monks up in your face while Jezzail sniper-teams are crawling over the roof-tops would be pretty sweet.
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Oct 28, 2015 22:30
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Question about loot, is a blue I get at level 3 as good as a blue I'll get at level 30? Like, damage is the same, traits could be the same? Just want to make sure. I got a blue dwarf gun just now at level 3, 30% bonus ammo and 90% passthrough chance, its a beast.
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Oct 28, 2015 22:38
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An orange at level 1 is the same as an orange at level 30. There are no level restrictions or item levels.
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Oct 28, 2015 22:40
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Out of curiosity from someone who never played Fantasy, how was all of this revealed? Was there a series of End Times official books, or did the next generation's rule book go "rocks fall everyone dies now fantasymarines" It was revealed in big books full of overpowered units and terrible writing that cost 60 dollars each. GW.txt.
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Oct 28, 2015 22:40
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Perestroika posted:Can blue pistols actually one-hit-kill clanrats on Hard and above again (without headshots, that is)? That's really only my one annoyance with the green ones I have now. Yes, they can.
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Oct 28, 2015 22:41
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Musluk posted:Pulled a stormvermin patrol and died in the city while the rest of the party was fleeing ubersreik. Nah, that was the BW. I killed them all with my magic bow while Kruber distracted them.
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Oct 28, 2015 22:42
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As I said, this is an alternate universe where the heroes save the day, the elf says something dumb about it, everyone tells her to shut up, then they all high five and have a beer.
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Oct 28, 2015 22:47
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Skandranon posted:I mainly picked it up from some wikis and people bitching about how dumb AoS is from the Total War: Warhammer thread, but I believe there were a bunch of novels written to fill all this stuff in. Poorly. Yup, there were books. And it all happened only last July too. The end result was Games Workshop has now declared whatever army you built is now obsolete (so buy our new stuff), and we get fantasy space marines. Seriously, GIS Sigmarines and that's what all your cool landsknechts with ostrich feather caps and arquebuses have been replaced with. Kinda cheapens the brand, and I feel it even (further) cheapens Space Marines by proxy. Oh but there are apparently rules that let you bring your OLD army in by saying they were trapped in a shard of reality until recently, only they're not at all balanced for the new rules so you're playing at a massive disadvantage. Again, second hand stuff because I really don't touch anything Games Workshop besides the video games, and that's generally only after people have decided if video game is good or not. Because, well, Games Workshop is a company that has profitable IP's despite itself. Alkydere fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Oct 28, 2015 |
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Oct 28, 2015 22:49
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This was my literal reaction when I found out about the endtimes and introduction of Land Marines: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5R_pS0h5Qk poo poo could have been cool as hell and shook up quite a bit, but instead they went scorched earth. gently caress, it could have been an alternate timeline where the Warhammer world was ending. The only pro's was that the ending for Lizardmen and Skaven were hilarious.
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Oct 28, 2015 22:50
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Night10194 posted:then they all high five and have a beer.
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Oct 28, 2015 22:51
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Safety Factor posted:Except the elf. I thought that went without saying. When have you ever seen an elf drink BEER?
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Oct 28, 2015 22:52
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Pumpkinreaper posted:This was my literal reaction when I found out about the endtimes and introduction of Land Marines: Oh, how did the Lizardmen get the shaft? The Skaven blowing up the moon in factionalism and then having most of the chunks land on themselves was pretty damned funny.
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Oct 28, 2015 22:53
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Alkydere posted:Oh, how did the Lizardmen get the shaft? The Skaven blowing up the moon in factionalism and then having most of the chunks land on themselves was pretty damned funny. They got in their spaceships and peaced out.
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Oct 28, 2015 22:55
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Safety Factor posted:Except the elf. She drinks hella strong wine instead.
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Oct 28, 2015 22:57
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Grondoth posted:She drinks hella strong wine instead.
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Oct 28, 2015 22:58
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Safety Factor posted:In a corner. Alone. Mysteriously, she says. But we all really know why.
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Safety Factor posted:In a corner. Alone. That's why she's so snarky, she saw the future and how much fun everyone else would have saving the world, and yet she'd be relegated to the corner.
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