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I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks the Hi-Zack looks like poo poo
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# ? Oct 28, 2015 03:56 |
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The Hizack is one of my favorite Zaku variants. It's big, chunky, and has a gigantic heat hawk. It's a Zaku on steroids that looks like it's going to gently caress you up. quote:I like Zeon because their mechs, uniforms, and flags are cooler looking. And I feel like that's more common in the west. The Federation feels too generic compared to Zeon. Zeon has a lot of eye-catching mechs with vastly-different shaped bodies and cool-looking 70s-style evil uniforms. The Federation has...a billion GM and Gundam varients and uniforms that are boring, WWII-era uniforms and those stupid blue for dudes and pink for girls ones. The X, 00, and AGE Federations are a lot more interesting.
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# ? Oct 28, 2015 05:15 |
i like the Fed uniforms, but Zeon does seem to have a style advantage between their uniforms and the sheer number of unique suits they seem to have in comparison to the Feds
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# ? Oct 28, 2015 05:18 |
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closeted republican posted:The Hizack is one of my favorite Zaku variants. It's big, chunky, and has a gigantic heat hawk. It's a Zaku on steroids that looks like it's going to gently caress you up. If I'm going for a Zaku variant, I'll take the F2 Kai from 0080 or the Geara series successors. Zulus are beautiful.
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# ? Oct 28, 2015 05:28 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:If I'm going for a Zaku variant, I'll take the F2 Kai from 0080 or the Geara series successors. Zulus are beautiful. Black Tri-star or Ramba Ral custom Zaku 1 would be my favourite Zaku design. Their custom paint jobs are boss.
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# ? Oct 28, 2015 05:31 |
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closeted republican posted:The Hizack is one of my favorite Zaku variants. It's big, chunky, and has a gigantic heat hawk. It's a Zaku on steroids that looks like it's going to gently caress you up. The advantages of Space Hugo Boss working for you.
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# ? Oct 28, 2015 05:47 |
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I wonder if any of those resources M'quve said would allow Zeon to fight another 10 years were sweet duds.
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# ? Oct 28, 2015 05:58 |
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Nasgate posted:Black Tri-star or Ramba Ral custom Zaku 1 would be my favourite Zaku design. Their custom paint jobs are boss. Zaku I bros 4 lyfe
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# ? Oct 28, 2015 06:25 |
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The Zaku II F2 is the best-looking Zaku II. The Kai and FZ are nowhere near as pretty.
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# ? Oct 28, 2015 09:27 |
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It looks like we might be getting a Thunderbolt OVA: http://gundamguy.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/mobile-suit-gundam-thunderbolt-anime.html I hope it's not CGI. Lemon-Lime fucked around with this message at 11:07 on Oct 28, 2015 |
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I'd be ok either way to see wacky arm flailing combat.
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# ? Oct 28, 2015 19:49 |
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Lemon Curdistan posted:The Zaku II F2 is the best-looking Zaku II. The Kai and FZ are nowhere near as pretty. The F2 is the basic Zaku II design given a more modern look, basically fixing up the line art and making everything more consistent. I still prefer the Kai, because its darker color contrast and stahlhelm are cool. It's me, I'm the terrible children in 0080 who think the mobile suits are cool and can't wait for the next war to start.
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# ? Oct 28, 2015 20:12 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:The F2 is the basic Zaku II design given a more modern look, basically fixing up the line art and making everything more consistent. Exactly my point.
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# ? Oct 28, 2015 20:19 |
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Hi-Mock is the best Zaku.
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# ? Oct 28, 2015 21:14 |
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Scopedog is the best Zaku
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# ? Oct 28, 2015 21:38 |
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Lemon Curdistan posted:It looks like we might be getting a Thunderbolt OVA: http://gundamguy.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/mobile-suit-gundam-thunderbolt-anime.html Given the complexity of the designs I'd put good money on it being CGI. Not that I mind personally. I've never gotten the fuss a lot of people kick up about it.
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# ? Oct 28, 2015 21:39 |
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If they can bring in Studio Orange to handle the CGI then I'd be down with that.
Srice fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Oct 28, 2015 |
# ? Oct 28, 2015 21:48 |
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I hope it's really good traditional animation
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# ? Oct 28, 2015 21:53 |
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tsob posted:I've never gotten the fuss a lot of people kick up about it. I find it looks cheap and ugly compare to cel animation.
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# ? Oct 28, 2015 21:54 |
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tsob posted:Given the complexity of the designs I'd put good money on it being CGI. Not that I mind personally. I've never gotten the fuss a lot of people kick up about it. Well-done CGI is good and fine. The problem is that a lot of CGI tends to be really lovely and low-budget CGI looks a lot worse than low-budget cell animation in anything short of "Gundam is literally a square box" level low-quality animation.
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# ? Oct 28, 2015 22:00 |
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Sunrise seems content to keep Gundam the last bastion for traditionally animated robots, though I can't remember how much CGI there was in Origins Just those horses
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# ? Oct 28, 2015 22:13 |
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Sakurazuka posted:Sunrise seems content to keep Gundam the last bastion for traditionally animated robots, though I can't remember how much CGI there was in Origins Weren't all the robots in The Origin CGI? And it didn't look great.
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# ? Oct 28, 2015 22:18 |
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Sakurazuka posted:Sunrise seems content to keep Gundam the last bastion for traditionally animated robots, though I can't remember how much CGI there was in Origins The only episode of Origin we've had so far has had relatively little robot action but every single bit of it was CGI.
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# ? Oct 28, 2015 22:33 |
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Lemon Curdistan posted:I find it looks cheap and ugly compare to cel animation. I like to watch old Japanese tv shows and Chinese films with ropey practical effects, and old Japanese cartoons filled with rather terrible art so I guess I've just gotten used to things looking cheap I guess.
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# ? Oct 28, 2015 22:38 |
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boom boom boom posted:Weren't all the robots in The Origin CGI? And it didn't look great. The CGI in The Origin was not bad, actually. The space battle at the beginning was excellent. The Guntank showdown, not so much. Lemon Curdistan posted:Exactly my point. At least the Kai was in a good show and not Stardust Memory.
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# ? Oct 28, 2015 23:02 |
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Let's give this the rundown: Zaku II: Good Zaku. Its cute and goofy (but slightly intimidating) design is ideal for the generic mook-suit our heroes will slaughter by the dozen. That wide, staring monoeye is very expressive. Hizack: OK Zaku. It looks like an ugly, bodged-together mishmash of GM and Zaku parts hammered out by the lowest bidder... which is exactly what it is, so that's fine. Zaku III: OK Zaku. It's suitably intimidating for a high-spec suit, but I miss the II's curves, and the feet are big enough to be a bit silly. Geara Doga: Good Zaku. What the III should have been. My only complaint is that it looks a little too badass for a low-budget crapbucket. Zaku Kai: Bad Zaku. Sorry, Bernie, but it's way too broad, like it's constantly at the wrong aspect ratio, and where the gently caress is its forehead? Zaku F2: OK Zaku. It's not as ugly as the Kai, but shrinking the head, raising the shoulders, and narrowing its eye-slit did it no favours. It kind of looks like it's angrily looking around for the jerk who stepped on it. Den'an Zon: Good Zaku. Creepy and unique. Zolo: Good Zaku. Sleek, stylish, intimidating, and has impressively little kibble for a transforming suit. I even like the beam rotor - sue me. Death Army: Good Zaku. It's Gundam's favourite mook envisaged as a supernatural beast from Japanese mythology (specifically, an oni) for the noble martial artist to take down mano a mano, and I dig it. Leo: OK Zaku. The little hat is cute, and I like how it borrows a bit from real-world tank designs, but it comes across as a bit plain and dull compared to the original's quirky charm. Zaku JC: Good Zaku. Unlike the Kai and F2, it alters the proportions in a good way, broadening the shoulders to give the Zack a more realistic, intimidating feel to go with the more detailed linework while keeping the head proportional and preserving the original's wide-eyed, expressive charm. The colour scheme is neat, too - the unpainted tubes and panels help sell it as a battle-worn pile of spare parts slogging through a gruelling ground war. Jenice: Good Zaku. The grilled monoeye and hot-rod exhausts give it a hulking, savage wasteland-barbarian vibe straight out of a Mad Max movie. You can smell the terror of the post-apocalyptic villagers who see a horde of bandits coming towards them with this at their head just by looking at it. Borjarnon: Good Borjarnon. Not quite sure what it's doing on this list, though - what in Queen Dianna's name are 'Zakus' when they're at home? Seriously, though, this is a great redesign - the lowered shoulders and extra-wide monoeye make it look as lovably pathetic as it should be. Bugu: Bad Zaku. G-Savior's curse of the disproportionately tiny limbs strikes again. In particular, the arms look bady mismatched with the torso. GINN: Bad Zaku. It's unpleasantly blocky, that gigantic head-fin looks stupid, and its medieval broadsword clashes jarringly with the rest of SEED's technological aesthetics. ZAKU Warrior: OK Zaku. SEED's ugly colouring does it no favours, and it isn't as striking as some other Zakus, but it's a decent modernisation of the concept without the GINN's poor design decisions or the obnoxious blockiness of many SEED designs - its plain legs and torso are nicely set off by the head and shoulders. A reasonable attempt at a generic villain mech. Tieren: Good Zaku. Gloriously ugly, clunky Chinese walking tank that's one of the series's biggest success stories in creating a nearish-future mech combat aesthetic for the Gundams to party-crash. Geara Zulu: OK Zaku. It's not bad, per se, but it's a bit too skinny and looks a bit too much like a guy wearing a costume rather than a giant robot. A definite step down from the Doga. Zila: Bad Zaku. Booo-ring. Space Jahannam: Good Zaku. It's big and intimidating enough to serve as an ace suit for a main character, and plain and visibly low-tech enough (in comparison to its foes) to serve as an underdog mook-suit. I like how it incorporates the standard Amerian ball cockpit, showing that it's their most advanced design, and the cross-shaped monoeye and folding beam axe are both totally loving awesome. Also, it has the angriest crotch armour of any suit on this list. Graze: OK Zaku. It has a really striking, intimidating silhouette, and I love how the show uses it in battle, but I'm not entirely sold on the big yellow reels in its torso or the pair of butt-shields - seriously, what are those for?
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# ? Oct 28, 2015 23:42 |
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I'd never actually looked at the other suits in G-Saviour very much, but drat, the Bugu owns
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# ? Oct 28, 2015 23:44 |
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The butt shields are the thrusters set in their planetary position for a lower center of gravity.
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# ? Oct 28, 2015 23:47 |
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You forgot the Re G-IT
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# ? Oct 28, 2015 23:51 |
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Droyer posted:You forgot the Re G-IT Not Zaku enough. I went for 'suit most like a Zaku II in its series', and while the RG is a fun riff on the III, it's in the same show as the Space Jahannam.
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# ? Oct 28, 2015 23:56 |
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You forgot the Hi-Mock.
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# ? Oct 29, 2015 00:06 |
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W.T. Fits posted:You forgot the Hi-Mock. I'm sorry, Yajima Trading's lawyers won't allow us to call that a Zaku. It is a completely original, copyrighted design, and any resemblances to other franchises' intellectual property are purely coincidental. Not least because the original designer (who has now unfortunately left the industry, forfeiting the royalties from his creation - we understand how upsetting this must be, and will try to get in contact with him as soon as is possible) turned out to be an alien. You seriously think an alien would commit copyright fraud?
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# ? Oct 29, 2015 00:20 |
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the Zaku I is just a Zaku II without the tubes where does it sit on the list
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# ? Oct 29, 2015 00:39 |
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Crummelhorn posted:the Zaku I is just a Zaku II without the tubes At the top
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# ? Oct 29, 2015 00:45 |
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Crummelhorn posted:the Zaku I is just a Zaku II without the tubes Funnily enough, the I has had a string of suits referencing it as well. There's the Zoloat, the Anf, the Jahannam, the Gavane Gooney Custom,
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# ? Oct 29, 2015 00:47 |
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Darth Walrus posted:Leo: OK Zaku. The little hat is cute, and I like how it borrows a bit from real-world tank designs, but it comes across as a bit plain and dull compared to the original's quirky charm. Bullshit, the Leo's great!
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# ? Oct 29, 2015 00:55 |
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None of these Zaku Ranking Lists are in any particular order. Best 1. Zaku II F/J 2. Zaku I 3. Zaku III 4. Den'an Zon 5. Leo 6. Hizack Good 1. Geara Zulu 2. GINN 3. Jenice 4. Graze 5. Tieren 6. Death Army 7. Zolo Eh 1. Geara Doga 2. SEED Destiny Zaku 3. Jahannam 4. Zaku II FZ 5. The Zaku thing Neo Japan has in G. 6. Zaku II JC NO 1. Zila 2. Bugu Not a Zaku 1. Borjanon 2. Zudah
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# ? Oct 29, 2015 01:19 |
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I am sort of legitimately upset you didn't include Gouf under Not A Zaku.
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# ? Oct 29, 2015 01:21 |
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ImpAtom posted:I am sort of legitimately upset you didn't include Gouf under Not A Zaku. I knew people would be expecting it, so I didn't add it just to throw everyone off.
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The Origin only has CG because the director specifically requested it. So blame that rear end in a top hat.
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