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The Vosgian Beast posted:Sure, you can make the case for that but this topic of discussion brings out the worst extremes of neckbeardery. You might as well bring up people not liking Dark Souls 2 as much as Dark Souls 1. I watched the video LInkara did on Homestuck, and I honestly don't get what the big deal is. I like that it's a riff on text adventures. I get that there's a lot more to it, and he probably didn't cover in the video, but I have no desire to learn more about Homestuck. i am tim! posted:Shamus Young is a doofus that takes every valid criticism of FO3 and drowns it in hyperbole. Fallout 3 is rife with lazy writing, but that's more disappointingly typical of Bethesda than anything else given that it's a vehicle for exploring a post apocalyptic DC. All things considered, it was a really fun wasteland to explore! Shamus Young posted:Are you one of the people who played through Fallout 3 without noticing any of these problems? That’s fine. Lots of people clicked through the dialog without listening, or listened to the dialog without thinking too much about it. You might spend several hours screwing around in subways and killing ghouls between story beats, and by the time you reach the next signpost on your journey the details of the previous scene might seen a little vague. I do see how it gets hyperbolic at points, but I still think it does a good job dealing with the various issues in the game's setting and narrative; not just in how they compare to the older Fallout games, but how they don't work in general. I mean, WHY would you build your town around a nuclear bomb? The only justification I can think of is that it's set in a crater, and setting up a settlement within a crater might provide some additional protection from storms. I'll say that Fallout 3 was my introduction to series, and I liked it enough when it came out. It was around that time, though, when I heard the complaints that it was a dumbed-down ARPG. However, my feeling has always been that Fallout benefited from that change. I briefly tried to play Fallout 2 when Fallout 3 had still yet to be released, and if you've never played a classic CRPG before, it's extremely unwelcoming (although that's partially because the Temple of Trials in F2 is just a bad introduction in general.) By styling it similarly to The Elder Scrolls, I think Bethesda was able to open the game up to a much wider audience. I think a good endorsement of Fallout 3 comes from this interview with Tim Cain(the lead designer for Fallout 1)[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4XVW6qcuzM&t=110s. He liked Fallout 3, and he hits on the same idea that it fits in more with the Bethesda wheelhouse than the older games do. His primary critique is on how Bethesda should have tried to come up with something more original, rather then carry over a lot of elements from the older games. KKall posted:This is why I don't usually talk about video games.  Like I said, though, it was a really interesting video. You brought up A Canticle for Leibowitz, and it reminded me of a cut location from Fallout 2 called the Abby, which served as a more of a direct copy of the 'technology as holy artifacts' concept.
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i am tim! posted:Yes, heaven forbid this thread goes on a tangent relevant to a piece of media covered by an internet critic. Fair enough 
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KKall posted:Fair enough I was actually intending that for The Vosgian Beast, not for you! e: Though I certainly understand the sentiment against these discussions coming up given how conversations about games tend to go. Sprawling and all that. i am tim! fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Oct 28, 2015 |
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I'm not sure what Bethesda wants Fallout to be, since they're removing stat checks with the new dialogue system. The games have always been really about dialogue and handling of situations. You could shoot your way through things but you could also talk and circumvent obstacles. The gun customization in the upcoming game looks rather neat but in a post-Witcher 3 world, I don't think their brand of open world is for me any more. The give you a bunch of stuff to do but most of isn't at all very compelling. It's a bummer since I'm a Massachusetts resident so seeing post-apocalyptic Boston would have been neat, but I just have no desire being Bland Voiced Protagonist with stupid dialogue choices written by people who don't care about writing.
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Jimbot posted:I'm not sure what Bethesda wants Fallout to be, since they're removing stat checks with the new dialogue system. Wait, wait, wait.... really? Ughhhh... The stat check dialog was some of the best. Is it just me or is Phelous really quiet in unscripted videos?
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Wow Fallout 4 is sounding like it's going to be bargain Bin Witcher 3 from what I'm reading. At least for me all my hype/emotional investment is in XCOM 2, where the story is your soldiers inciting a global rebellion to overthrow alien overlords. Now I could go into a tirade of how revolutions tend to just get in a new dictator rather than cause any substantial change of life for the average citizen, but chances are it won't go into something like how after the war it's probably going to end like what should've happened at the end of Falling Skies, where all the humans start to fight each other with superior weaponry courtesy of XCOM and aside from the boundless leaps from alien tech, not much will change in terms of human nature. After all the game series is more focused on the murdering of aliens through the use of strategy and base management, not the sociopolitical implications your organization has on the world stage.
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I don't think goons have any actual control over what they type.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:I don't think goons have any actual control over what they type. My hands are moving on their own
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Really, if you ask Pavlov's dogs not to salivate when the bell rings, you're kind of the dumb one, not them.
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Like a couple of songwriters who came to Ishtar to break into show business.
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I can't believe this lone wanderer controls the fate of the Capitol Wasteland.
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Is there any at all reason to believe they 'took out skill checks' or is that just chinese telephone and general chicken little stuff
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watho posted:Is it just me or is Phelous really quiet in unscripted videos? I think Phelan is pretty funny in unscripted stuff, when he has someone to bounce off. When he cuts in with a one liner, it can be gold, like when he goes into the acallepa version of Hulk Hogan's theme in the Thunder in Paradise video. He's like Diabeetus in Retsupurae, where Slowbeef is the more talkative, but Diabeetus has great timing and one liners. Actually, should we talk about retsupurae in this thread? I guess they're not really "critics", when though they critique things on the Internet?
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watho posted:Is it just me or is Phelous really quiet in unscripted videos? Yeah, he gets a lot softer and less charismatic. It's one reason I really prefer his more scripted stuff. (That and some better editing.)
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Beefstew posted:Fallout 3 really epitomizes Bethesda writing. It has the mostly laughably stupid "heroic sacrifice" in the history of media. The game even acknowledges that it makes no sense, so it's just there for some really forced dramatic tension. Didn't Bethesda put in a hella passive aggressive ending for making the guy who IS RADIATION IMMUNE do what you're supposed to do, where it calls you a coward? Now that I think about it, didn't ME3 also do that? Miss Wallace posted:We both kinda do it without being aware of it sometimes! I try to tone it down when we're reviewing but sometimes I space it. Just a nervous habit I guess. I can attest for doing awkward stuff when nervous. If I get especially stressed during work I tend to walk in circles and constantly rub my hands together. If I'm focused I can stop myself from habitually walking in circles but I'm still rubbing my hands together. Just something you can't really help.
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watho posted:
Like I said, Ash in a meat-suit. Ash is still trying to get a hang of the balance and voice-command controls.
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Leal posted:Didn't Bethesda put in a hella passive aggressive ending for making the guy who IS RADIATION IMMUNE do what you're supposed to do, where it calls you a coward? In the vanilla game Fawkes just says its a task that only you can do because  
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Dude, your whining isn't going to stop the boring tangents; it just makes them doubly irritating. Just scroll past and wait for something on-topic to happen.
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It's also a pretty remarkable calm and short tangent too, chill the gently caress out. Is there a gaming equivalent to Every Frame a Painting? Someone who takes a look into the deeper artistry, storytelling and mechanics of games? Kimble Justice is somewhat close, but anyone have other suggestions? OldTennisCourt fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Oct 28, 2015 |
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Oct 28, 2015 03:46
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Oh, the derail is over. Oh well. (Can't wait for Fallout 4 to completely wipe the taste of New Vegas out of my mouth and of the series)
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Miss Wallace posted:We both kinda do it without being aware of it sometimes! I try to tone it down when we're reviewing but sometimes I space it. Just a nervous habit I guess. Well at least you fired him so we wont have to worry about that anymore.
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OldTennisCourt posted:Is there a gaming equivalent to Every Frame a Painting? Someone who takes a look into the deeper artistry, storytelling and mechanics of games? Kimble Justice is somewhat close, but anyone have other suggestions? I've been enjoying Game Maker's Toolkit and Errant Signal for that.
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MisterBibs posted:(Can't wait for Fallout 4 to completely wipe the taste of New Vegas out of my mouth and of the series) This but ironically.
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MisterBibs posted:(Can't wait for Fallout 4 to completely wipe the taste of New Vegas out of my mouth and of the series) The taste of coherent writing, good characters and add-ons actually worth money? But those first 2 are a lot more common of the actual whole series. 
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"no, I will be the horrible nerd who gets the last word in this poo poo flurry!"
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Alaois posted:"no, I will be the horrible nerd who gets the last word in this poo poo flurry!" Oh yeah? Well you can go right on ahead and go gently caress yourself! 
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Flame war never changes.
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KKall posted:Flame war never changes. Since the dawn of the internet, when our ancestors first discovered the flaming power of epithets and trolling, poo poo has been flung in the name of everything: from God to video games to simple, psychotic rage.
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Alaois posted:Since the dawn of the internet, when our ancestors first discovered the flaming power of epithets and trolling, poo poo has been flung in the name of everything: from God to video games to simple, psychotic rage. Our ancestors created safe zones in attempt to protect themselves from the fires of trolling and doxxing but flame wars. Flame wars never change.
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I'm watching Bennett's new video about Sins of the Sisters, and he used clips from "What Is It?" as an example of insanity. Oh dear.
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KKall posted:Flame war never changes. Quick, I'll do a voiceover of gategate posts spliced over ambient nature reels, and call it an arthouse and then you review it. This will fix EVERYTHING.
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StealthArcher posted:Quick, I'll do a voiceover of gategate posts spliced over ambient nature reels, and call it an arthouse and then you review it. By that you mean you'll read posts about the literal GateGate thing that happened in Skyrim modding?
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Mraagvpeine posted:I'm watching Bennett's new video about Sins of the Sisters, and he used clips from "What Is It?" as an example of insanity. Oh dear. That was some bugshittery. I stopped watching his Memories review (ostensibly to go find Magnetic Rose) and watched that instead. I think I would have been better off spoiling myself than sitting through that madness.
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Arcsquad12 posted:That was some bugshittery. I stopped watching his Memories review (ostensibly to go find Magnetic Rose) and watched that instead. I'm about to watch that review too, and I think this is the first time ever an Anime Abandon episode had a content warning. Well, at least I watched the beautiful Magnetic Rose beforehand.
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Oct 28, 2015 22:47
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Do you know where I can watch Magnetic Rose (or even the whole movie)?
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Mraagvpeine posted:I'm watching Bennett's new video about Sins of the Sisters, and he used clips from "What Is It?" as an example of insanity. Oh dear. Impossible. Crispin Glover sued The Internet! That made the movie unexist.
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I still remember Kyle's review of "What Is It?" and how it spawned that video of the reenactment of a fanfic where he became a snail.
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Mraagvpeine posted:Do you know where I can watch Magnetic Rose (or even the whole movie)? lornekates posted:Impossible. Crispin Glover sued The Internet! That made the movie unexist.
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Jontron has another Starcade out. Still not Tie Fighter. But I do own the plug and play Millennium Falcon toy.
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