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No seriously you're doing the same thing Harris and Nawaz are doing in that interview. So I'm asking if you're being literal and if cartoon really does excuse everything horrible done in the name of islam because of western adventurism.
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katlington posted:No seriously you're doing the same thing Harris and Nawaz are doing in that interview. So I'm asking if you're being literal and if cartoon really does excuse everything horrible done in the name of islam because of western adventurism. Sounds like a fascinating line of questioning my man. Let me know where it gets you.
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Maybe the answer is somewhere in the AHBAHBLNLNNMLM
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Is there a meetup tonight? Also Muslims hate us for our bicycle helmets.
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Oct 29, 2015 01:59
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Because their argument is that the left is literally down with slavery and acid attacks because of cultural relativism but they should stop being cool about poo poo like that in the name of cultural relativism and everybody should become secular humanists. Which I honestly thought was the left's argument this whole time, secular humanism.
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Oct 29, 2015 02:04
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A crusade will fix their little red wagon.
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Amethyst posted:Sounds like a fascinating line of questioning my man. Let me know where it gets you. It seems to be giving you a lot of trouble. Because, like I already said, I've never seen this. I have never seen a person excuse horrific poo poo being done by muslims because of imperialism or cultural relativism. If it's such a common view on the left it shouldn't be so hard to find. What I have seen is people interpret discussing context as condoning. Discussing foreign intervention as a contributing factor instead of just muslims are inherently dangerous, which is a popular mainstream viewpoint, is viewed as excusing violence because of those foreign interventions. Is that what you're doing now?
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Coalition will not be 'bullied' on border protection, says Peter Dutton Amnesty International are big ol meanies
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SynthOrange posted:Lmao UK tories deacribe Abbotts speech as fascistic Reading the comments on twitter from the age article is interesting. Lots of comments supporting our tones. Guess Australians really love fascism.
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QUACKTASTIC posted:Coalition will not be 'bullied' on border protection, says Peter Dutton When did criticism become bullying? Genuinely curious
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QUACKTASTIC posted:Coalition will not be 'bullied' on border protection, says Peter Dutton Immi dept leakier than a refugee boat. Australia ignored three requests from Nauru medical staff to move Abyan Exclusive: Requests contradict comments by Peter Dutton, who said transfer of pregnant refugee had been delayed because of ‘other unrelated health issues’ http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/oct/29/australia-ignored-three-requests-from-nauru-medical-staff-to-move-abyan
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Oct 29, 2015 03:06
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This Jezebel article is trending on facebook for some reason Aussie Accent Developed Through Years of Heavy Drinking, Says New Theory quote:A new theory out of Victoria University in Melbourne suggests that the Australian accent is not (as previously thought) the product of blending dialects, but is actually the result of Australians continually getting poo poo-faced together.
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trunkh posted:When did criticism become bullying? Genuinely curious When newspapers started retweeting Peter Dutton's tumblr
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Oct 29, 2015 03:17
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katlington posted:How stupid would a person have to be to believe the lnp have actually "stopped the boats" The numbers must be wrong!!! 1111
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Oct 29, 2015 03:21
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SynthOrange posted:Immi dept leakier than a refugee boat. Yet somehow they have successfully concealed a vast, undefined number of boats from the public
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Vladimir Poutine posted:This Jezebel article is trending on facebook for some reason Unabashed snobbery.
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Vladimir Poutine posted:This Jezebel article is trending on facebook for some reason That is laughably stupid.
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Oh cool, the "new theory" the article talks about is actually just a reference to a throwaway line in this boring opinion piece from the age. http://www.theage.com.au/comment/the-fourth-r-missing-from-australian-education-20151025-gkhv8k.html Blog spam is cool.
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Some Paywalled Paper posted:Punishment for SA Police officer’s shocking racial abuse of Aboriginal man was cultural awareness training
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More than zero = boats not stopped. Checkmate tories  Congrats on making literally the dumbest possible criticism of a dumb slogan for a dumb policy by dumb idiots.
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Oct 29, 2015 03:39
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The whole issue of the conduct that Amnesty has just brought to light (after a pretty rigorous investigation) will be the subject of a Royal Commission one day. The real question is when. I unfortunately think it won't be until all of the current crop of perpetrators are out of office.
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Oct 29, 2015 03:49
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I'm sure all the orange boats the government bought were just for funsies now that they have so much spare time from having 100% solved the issue of boat immigration.
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Hey Cartoon, you should watch Holy Motors by Leos Carax. I'm currently doing an analysis of it for my French Cinema subject and it is loving with my brain.
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Cartoon posted:The whole issue of the conduct that Amnesty has just brought to light (after a pretty rigorous investigation) will be the subject of a Royal Commission one day. The real question is when. I unfortunately think it won't be until all of the current crop of perpetrators are out of office. When the greens are in power, so never.
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Mithranderp posted:Hey Cartoon, you should watch Holy Motors by Leos Carax. hahaha good luck!
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Birdstrike posted:hahaha it's loving with my brain so much that I posted this in the wrong thread 
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Mithranderp posted:Hey Cartoon, you should watch Holy Motors by Leos Carax. This is a good movie and also Peter Dutton is a malignant sponge.
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Anyone else read this piece by marr in the Guardian? I felt it was using statistics and surveys to come to an incongruous conclusion, specifically: http://www.theguardian.com/australi...tt-came-unstuck quote:Multiculturalism means different things to different people, but its triumph now seems complete. More strongly than ever, 86% of Australians believe “multiculturalism has been good for Australia”. Ask Australians if we should choose migrants on the basis of race or religion and 76% say no. Maybe that just suggests how a government can make an issue out of absolutely nothing if they just really persevere at it for 15 years. Or maybe when people get asked about "multiculturalism" a lot of them are thinking about Greeks and Italians rather than Syrians or Afghans.
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It's like when they claimed people didn't believe in democracy because they thought the Australian government was poo poo. Multiculturalism means different things to different people, I'm not sure if asking people 'do you think multiculturalism has been good for Australia' will tell you much more than how people answer that question. At least not on its own.
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'Do you like having curries, kebabs, pho, burgers, pizza, noodles, stir fries and pasta all in the same food court?'
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Does multiculturalism mean people can build a mosque and wear the niqab because there are people on both the left and right of the political spectrum who would object to Muslims doing those two things in Australia
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SynthOrange posted:'Do you like having curries, kebabs, pho, burgers, pizza, noodles, stir fries and pasta all in the same food court?' No, it makes the decision on what to eat too hard it's probably going to be curry, extra so if they make fresh naan
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It's disingenuous to call vessels being intercepted offshore and thus not physically reaching the australian shore "stopping the boats." You haven't stopped a thing. That's people's actual argument.
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open24hours posted:It's like when they claimed people didn't believe in democracy because they thought the Australian government was poo poo. As long as they're not saying no, it's something. When people start talking about how multiculturalism has failed is when things are truly hosed.
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I like how the response to violence in the middle east is "oh how these uncivilised savages love murdering one another, can't have that here!" But for violence in Europe it's like "oopsy looks like someone woke up on the wrong side of bed this morning! Calmer heads will prevail soon enough."
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katlington posted:As long as they're not saying no, it's something. When people start talking about how multiculturalism has failed is when things are truly hosed. Multiculturalism only fails because of bigots like Reclaim Australia who (rather ironically) reject pluralism.
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freebooter posted:Anyone else read this piece by marr in the Guardian? I felt it was using statistics and surveys to come to an incongruous conclusion, specifically: It's a wedge as Marr says in the article. The percentage of people who are actually hardcore anti-immigration and/or outright racist when it comes down to it is small. It's a definitional problem about what is fair and not fair. I reckon. I only stopped in to check out amethysts posts after his meltdown in games. You guys prove that we are quite tolerant. Small and biased sample accepted.
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Nien posted:It's a wedge as Marr says in the article. The percentage of people who are actually hardcore anti-immigration and/or outright racist when it comes down to it is small. It's a definitional problem about what is fair and not fair. I reckon. Welcome to the fanclub. Please feel free to buy me an av, I'm sick of this one.
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Zahki posted:They spoke about this on Lateline last night and both guests, one of them a Muslim himself, disagreed with that idea. And both of them were quite critical of the left wing tendency to try and whitewash Islamic extremism by placing blame on western powers instead of the extremists themselves. i'm glad dawkins jr was there to explain that islam is fundamentally incompatible with not being a regressive barbarian also but im not racist
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