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Here's a review on the new APs by Ubiquiti. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/10/review-ubiquiti-unifi-made-me-realize-how-terrible-consumer-wi-fi-gear-is/ And this is what you spend $180 on if you want a superior setup that doesn't try to convince you of its effectiveness by how many antennas are jutting out of a consumer grade device. EdgeRouter X Unifi AC Lite AP Bishyaler fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Oct 28, 2015 |
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:I dunno why don't you check smallnetbuilder: I think the Apple line has been absent updates for over 2 years so not overly surprising.
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Bishyaler posted:Here's a review on the new APs by Ubiquiti. Why not an EdgeRouter Lite instead of an X? It looks like the X is all software, while the Lite has much better routing performance and actually 3 routable ports instead of just LAN, WAN and a switch.
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Twerk from Home posted:Why not an EdgeRouter Lite instead of an X? It looks like the X is all software, while the Lite has much better routing performance and actually 3 routable ports instead of just LAN, WAN and a switch. This post sums up why the ER-X is a better choice, aside from cost. https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX/ER-X-SFP-Vs-ERL/m-p/1232361#M63123
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As they mention in that post the EdgerouterX is built on switching hardware (so yes it does routing in software). So when you bridge two or more ports and use it as a switch you get actual wire speed switching. I can only think of a couple of other enterprise grade routing devices that can do that for less than $5000. The Edgerouter Lite is built on routing hardware and does its switching in software. So it really sucks at switching but is amazing at routing. The cool thing about the EdgerouterX is that is amazing at switching, reasonably good at routing, and ridiculously cheap. Both devices are great, but they are designed to fit different sets of needs. Antillie fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Oct 29, 2015 |
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CrazyLittle posted:Google says try http://10.0.0.1/ for Arris modems I tried that once upon a time with no luck, and I still have no luck, trying again just now. Pinging that just gets me a bunch of timeouts. Just like trying those on 192.168.2.2 (which nothing should be at). Something I read somewhere once upon a time led me to believe that the Charter guys did something to the modem to lock it down so I can't ever actually access it. Nothing has really presented itself to me s an obvious solution to that. Are WAPs the sort of things that go on sale on Black Friday? I wouldn't mind finding something to replace the 2008-era Time Capsule we're still running on.
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Antillie posted:As they mention in that post the EdgerouterX is built on switching hardware (so yes it does routing in software). So when you bridge two or more ports and use it as a switch you get actual wire speed switching. I can only think of a couple of other enterprise grade routing devices that can do that for less than $5000. Awesome. Thanks to you and Bishyaler for great info on what's going on. I'm not on gigabit internet yet so it's moot, but at least an ERX looks to be able to saturate 300/300 with big packets.
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Axiem posted:I tried that once upon a time with no luck, and I still have no luck, trying again just now. Pinging that just gets me a bunch of timeouts. Just like trying those on 192.168.2.2 (which nothing should be at). am I missing something, or could you not just find the default route IP on one of your devices and then hit that in your browser?
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Twerk from Home posted:Awesome. Thanks to you and Bishyaler for great info on what's going on. I'm not on gigabit internet yet so it's moot, but at least an ERX looks to be able to saturate 300/300 with big packets. I would say it could easily saturate a 500 mbps connection when acting as a router. Depending on your traffic patterns, packet sizes, and exact config it should be able to push a bit more than 900 mbps in certain situations.
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bobbilljim posted:am I missing something, or could you not just find the default route IP on one of your devices and then hit that in your browser? My own ignorance about how to do that on OS X. In the past (with other ISPs), I've always been able to do a traceroute and figure it out; this time around, the modem doesn't respond to a traceroute: code:
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try ipconfig and look for a default gateway. Unless the Airport hides it somehow...I don't think it does.
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Axiem posted:My own ignorance about how to do that on OS X. In the past (with other ISPs), I've always been able to do a traceroute and figure it out; this time around, the modem doesn't respond to a traceroute: try this? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6782658/how-to-get-default-gateway-in-mac-osx e: unless you are doing some odd routing or natting through the time capsule in which case you would have to find out what its route is edit edit: I see you came to the same conclusion
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Panty Saluter posted:try ipconfig and look for a default gateway. Unless the Airport hides it somehow...I don't think it does. I can't figure out how to get ipconfig to do it, but code:Unless it's possible I don't actually have the TC in Bridge Mode, and it's actually building its own NAT network, and somehow doing magic against the router? That would probably explain it  I coulda sworn I'd set it to bridge mode a long time ago, but actually looking, it doesn't look like I did. Or I might have had a problem and stopped doing that. When I have some more time, I'll have to try putting it in bridge mode and see if the modem can handle all the actual routing itself (I'm starting to think that I tried and it didn't). Sorry for being stupid.
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Check the gateway on the Airport itself, since the Airport is the gateway for the computers.
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I own an Asus RT-N16 that I run a small office on. It was recently bogging way down and loving with voip calls but I solved that with a simple firmware update without saving any old settings or rules. I imagine clearing out the old settings and client lists did more than just the firmware update itself. I've been considering dropping DD-WRT on there but since this is a work machine and there's a risk of bricking it (It's a small risk, I've done this a bazillion times with personal gear, but a risk nonetheless) I only really want to go through with it if there's some sort of guarantee that going with more lightweight firmware will help with overall performance and lifespan. Should I?
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Zigmidge posted:I own an Asus RT-N16 that I run a small office on. It was recently bogging way down and loving with voip calls but I solved that with a simple firmware update without saving any old settings or rules. I imagine clearing out the old settings and client lists did more than just the firmware update itself. If it aint broke don't fix it. If you are wanting something more capable for a small business setting get an EdgerouterX and a Unifi AP-AC-Lite Antillie fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Oct 29, 2015 |
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Zigmidge posted:I own an Asus RT-N16 that I run a small office on. It was recently bogging way down and loving with voip calls but I solved that with a simple firmware update without saving any old settings or rules. I imagine clearing out the old settings and client lists did more than just the firmware update itself. Seconding Antillie's suggestion, but adding a reminder: You should be restoring to factory defaults after upgrading firmware on any device. Sometimes you can get lucky and it'll work, but most of the time you'll have problems.
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I was thinking of that old idiom as well. Thanks for the hardware recommendation, too, that's pretty much perfect and right in line with the price point I had in mind. If this thing burns itself out I'll be going there!
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Inspector_666 posted:Check the gateway on the Airport itself, since the Airport is the gateway for the computers. Looks like the Airport claims its own IP Address is 71.(something).(something).9, with a Subnet Mask of 255.255.254.0, and a Router Address of 71.(something).(something).1. Trying the "Router Address" in a browser also doesn't work, but it does actually give me a ping. Not unless I'm reading the Airport dialog wrong, and that's actually the Airport's IP address. Or the IP address to something else entirely; trying to traceroute to it is getting me nothing useful.
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Axiem posted:Looks like the Airport claims its own IP Address is 71.(something).(something).9, with a Subnet Mask of 255.255.254.0, and a Router Address of 71.(something).(something).1. Trying the "Router Address" in a browser also doesn't work, but it does actually give me a ping. Not unless I'm reading the Airport dialog wrong, and that's actually the Airport's IP address. Or the IP address to something else entirely; trying to traceroute to it is getting me nothing useful. That sounds like your public IPv4 address straight from Charter. And based on this discussion on DSL Reports it sounds like Charter locks down their modems hard and you might not be able to get anything useful out of it.
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CrazyLittle posted:Google says try http://10.0.0.1/ for Arris modems For Cablevision/Optimum online it is at http://192.168.100.1/cgi-bin/status_cgi
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Any recommendations on paid VPN services that play nice with a home router? Preferably one that doesn't log much or has issues with P2P.
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CrazyLittle posted:I know this is late as hell, but wanted to follow up. I bought a pair of these monoprice gigabit powerline adapters during that weekend sale in September and set them up to put an Edimax 5ghz-only AP in a room in my house that was ~2 rooms separated from the nearest access point or network drop. It seems to be working great and I can get good solid connections to the AP without frequent signal dropouts. Second note: I have an AFCI breaker that's on the circuits between the two units, and it ends up filtering out much of the signal so I only get 30mbps down and 8mbps upload over the Monoprice gigabit powerline adapters.
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I have an Airport Extreme AC and it's great, but I need to add a firewall rule to block a specific IP address. I am guessing relegating the Extreme to be just an AP and getting something like the Edgerouter X is my best bet?
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sellouts posted:I have an Airport Extreme AC and it's great, but I need to add a firewall rule to block a specific IP address. I am guessing relegating the Extreme to be just an AP and getting something like the Edgerouter X is my best bet? That's what I would recommend. The Edgerouter X is extremely flexible, but you may need to dip into the command line interface to configure the more advanced settings. Worry not, the Ubiquiti community is a helpful, friendly, and active bunch. http://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX/bd-p/EdgeMAX Bishyaler fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Oct 31, 2015 |
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Thanks! I installed their APs at work and they were absolutely flawless. It's a bit of a silly use case but thankfully it's only $49 or $59.
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It's been 2007- 2009 since i last bought a modem. A net gear dg834g (v2?) from memory. I got my own place, in a giant block of units. There's 30 networks around, so I'm guessing I need 5ghz in case of disruptive signals. Modems age I guess, so looking to spend $200-$400 on a router. Its just for me, adsl2 connection (20mbit from memory, upload more like 1-2mbit) in Australia, mostly for browsing, downloading and uploading video to the Web for home/work, maybe some plea later on. I've probably got 5 wireless devices (laptop, phone, tablet, etc). I don't think i need anything too fancy. I'm not particularly good with network stuff, so any help would be awesome! Looking for something pretty sturdy but not sure of my options. the_lion fucked around with this message at 12:56 on Oct 31, 2015 |
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Sir Unimaginative posted:That sounds like your public IPv4 address straight from Charter. Yeah, that's what I gathered, which is why I redacted the middle two numbers. I guess I'm stuck with hoping really hard that it's our aging Airport that's causing Wi-Fi problems. Our network consists of 1 Mac Mini, 2 iPads, 3 iPhones, 2 MacBooks, 1 Wii, 1 Xbox, 1 Apple TV, and 1 Windows laptop, along with random laptops/phones other people bring with them when they come hang out. Everything is connected wirelessly to a 2008-era Airport Time Capsule, though not everything (the Wii and Xbox, in particular) is on 24/7. While I like the plug-and-it-works nature of the Airport, I don't know if that's as great of an idea, especially since I might really want to do some more detailed network management---keeping Netflix from killing everyone else's connection, reducing the kids' bandwidth, that sort of thing. Is the modern Airport Express still a good choice, despite its limited management capabilities? Or is there something else that's better/cheaper that works really well for an electronics-saturated household? I'm finding it extremely difficult to parse through a million reviews for something that actually is good for my use case, and with kids, it's really hard to spend the time doing the research I'd like to do.
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Mmmm. Upgrade day.
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Nice, where did you order those from? Nowhere I look at has stock.
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Kreeblah posted:Mmmm. Upgrade day. I'm really interested to see what speeds AC devices negotiate with these things. And of course throughput.
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Krailor posted:Nice, where did you order those from? Nowhere I look at has stock. Some Amazon seller. They were selling them above MSRP, but I needed one now for extra coverage, and if I was buying one, I figured I might as well buy a second to replace my first-gen AC AP. I've always worried about the heat coming from that thing. redeyes posted:I'm really interested to see what speeds AC devices negotiate with these things. And of course throughput. I'm sitting in another room with a fair bit of metal and other non-wireless-friendly stuff in between me and the AP I'm connected to and I'm getting a gigabit link via 5GHz with about 250-300mbps throughput. This is also with the AP sitting face-up (basically upside down) on a high shelf in that room. I'm still trying to figure out a good way to mount it correctly, but I'm in a rental house.
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I've been stuck on a lovely wireless situation for too long and am wondering about powerline adapters. The router is two floors away in an old Edwardian home - will it work well? Will it work at all? It's only for 6 months or so, so spending 60-100 is not unreasonable to have a useful tool lying around.
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the_lion posted:It's been 2007- 2009 since i last bought a modem. A net gear dg834g (v2?) from memory. The Archer C5 and C7 both come to mind. Depending on the layout of your place you might need two to provide good coverage with 5ghz wifi. If you don't mind spending a bit more money you can pick up an Edgerouter X and one or two Unifi AP AC Lites instead. Antillie fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Nov 2, 2015 |
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Axiem posted:Yeah, that's what I gathered, which is why I redacted the middle two numbers. I guess I'm stuck with hoping really hard that it's our aging Airport that's causing Wi-Fi problems. The current gen Airport Express is a reasonable router but it is a bit dated as it only supports 5ghz N and 100mbps wired connections. If you are going to buy a new router there is no reason not to get one that is AC capable. If you don't mind paying the Apple tax the Airport Extreme is a great AC router that integrates very well with other Apple devices and provides time machine backups if you connect a USB hard drive to it. The Archer C7 will go just as fast though for much less money but without the native time machine support (it will still host a USB drive on the network though). The Archer C7 is supported by some 3rd party firmware distributions if you want to play with that sort of thing. Antillie fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Nov 2, 2015 |
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I'm in the market for an AC router since I now own two devices with appropriate radios and transfer speeds on 2.4GHz N is leaving a lot to be desired when trying to stream stuff via SMB (or just transfer stuff off of my Nas4Free box). Also, apparently my Asus RT-N16 freaked out a while ago with a 1.28 TomatoUSB install, so my roommate installed a fork that has been pretty stable. I'll probably isolate it on its own separate VLAN and call it attwifi to do 3DS street pass fuckery. Pls advise.
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Antillie posted:The current gen Airport Express is a reasonable router but it is a bit dated as it only supports 5ghz N and 100mbps wired connections. If you are going to buy a new router there is no reason not to get one that is AC capable. If you don't mind paying the Apple tax the Airport Extreme is a great AC router that integrates very well with other Apple devices and provides time machine backups if you connect a USB hard drive to it. The Archer C7 will go just as fast though for much less money but without the native time machine support (it will still host a USB drive on the network though). Ah, yeah, I meant the Airport Extreme. I always say the wrong word with those. But the Time Capsule integration is less of an issue for me--I plan on keeping the old Time Capsule around for the backups, and just using this for a new router. How does the C7 compare to the C8? Is the extra bit of money worth the upgrade?
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Axiem posted:Ah, yeah, I meant the Airport Extreme. I always say the wrong word with those. But the Time Capsule integration is less of an issue for me--I plan on keeping the old Time Capsule around for the backups, and just using this for a new router. For me the big thing offered by the C8 is the detachable/replaceable antennas. This lets you buy some funky high gain toys or hook up your own cantenna made from a pringles can or whatever. The USB3 port on the C8 is nice but printers don't need the speed and an external drive can only use the speed if it is an SSD and being shared over a gigabit wired connection. AC wifi can't even keep up with USB2 most of the time. I'm not sure the more powerful CPU on the C8 is of any use to most people as the C7 will already do nearly gigabit speed routing. I guess if you plan to flash third party firmware and do VPNs then the extra CPU core could make a big difference however the C8 is not yet widely supported by most 3rd party firmware distributions. 3rd party firmware support for the C7 is pretty solid though. The C8 will also do beam forming but I am not sure how much of a difference that really makes in actual use. I think the real choice is between the C7 and the C9 as the C7 and C8 are just so similar. Edit: It looks like beam forming does provide a slight performance increase (8-12%). Not enough to really worry to much about though. If you want more wifi speed than the C7 can provide a C9 would be the way to go I think. Its not much more than the C8 and is actually noticeably faster than the C7. Antillie fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Nov 3, 2015 |
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Phone posted:I'm in the market for an AC router since I now own two devices with appropriate radios and transfer speeds on 2.4GHz N is leaving a lot to be desired when trying to stream stuff via SMB (or just transfer stuff off of my Nas4Free box). All in one solution: Archer C7, C8, or C9 depending your budget and speed needs. (C5 if you are really tight for money) The ASUS RT-AC66U is also nice but more expensive than the C7 or C8 and can't quite keep up with the also cheaper C9. Separate router and AP: Edgerouter X and a Unifi AP AC Lite. Pricier but this is enterprise grade stuff that will make you wonder how you ever lived with consumer grade trash. Antillie fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Nov 3, 2015 |
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I'm building a house and am going to wire it with CAT6A. Are there any recommendations for an 18- or 24-port router that:
I used to run data and voice networks for a large organization, so I'm okay with some initial complexity. I just don't want to mess with the darn thing constantly. Is there another thread in which I should ask these questions?
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