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Mr Jaunts posted:If they really want to keep everyone above 1% in, they should at least split it up, make the debates 7 and 7 or something instead of 4 and 10 Not only that the debates should be random draw, not Jr and sr.
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Oct 29, 2015 17:38
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computer parts posted:I'll remember this the next time people bitch about the media not letting third parties have a fair shot. Several debates in and the numbers for these people have not budged. I'm fine giving third parties a shot in the general but if they're still polling less than 5% after several debates it's time to drop them because they can't win, they can only gently caress up the election like Nader in 2000 or Perot in 1992.
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Oct 29, 2015 17:42
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Evil Fluffy posted:Several debates in and the numbers for these people have not budged. I'm fine giving third parties a shot in the general but if they're still polling less than 5% after several debates it's time to drop them because they can't win, they can only gently caress up the election like Nader in 2000 or Perot in 1992. Perot got like 30% in 1992.
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Oct 29, 2015 17:43
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zoux posted:Like, why the gently caress are they letting people polling at 5 percent into debates? Or one percent? Because they don't want to be accused of picking winners and losers so we all have to play this game like Bobby Jindal can be the next president of the US instead of saying "well, poll better if you want to be a real presidential candidate". It is a massive disservice to the process to have 10 candidates. If I'm not mistaken the RNC doesn't want to winnow the field just yet because the winnowing at this point would leave the (unelectable) non-establishment candidates in the majority of the main debate.
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Oct 29, 2015 17:44
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Change the rules where you have to have had zero breaks in your campaign. Bam, no more Ben & Jindals.
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Oct 29, 2015 17:46
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Oct 29, 2015 17:47
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Phone posted:Change the rules where you have to have had zero breaks in your campaign. I'm amazed at how many people bought the talking points covering up the coordination between Carson and his super PAC. Oh sure, the book tour isn't a campaign event, there's just a super PAC funded bus right across the parking lot handing out yard signs and asking for emails.
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Oct 29, 2015 17:48
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computer parts posted:Perot got like 30% in 1992. According to wikipedia, it was 18.9%. Still a fair number for a 3rd party. I personally would like to see a strong 3rd party, if anything to break up the current meta in American politics. Where's the reform party with crazy rear end Jessie Ventura leading the way....
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Oct 29, 2015 17:54
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Magugu posted:According to wikipedia, it was 18.9%. Still a fair number for a 3rd party. I'd like a unicorn, because I too dislike dealing with reality.
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Oct 29, 2015 17:55
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Magugu posted:According to wikipedia, it was 18.9%. Still a fair number for a 3rd party. They can fix the meta by nerfing the Tea Party.
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Oct 29, 2015 17:57
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"Tap one land to block all legislation? That can't be right".
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Oct 29, 2015 17:57
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zoux posted:They can fix the meta by nerfing the Tea Party. science and facts need a buff
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Oct 29, 2015 17:57
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I like that mocking Jeb! has become routine:quote:Particularly since the once-favored candidate among Establishment Republicans, the fallen Jeb!, had the least speaking time last night, leaving Rubio an enormous opening to poach whatever remains of his onetime mentor’s support (and donors). John Kasich, who might also have inherited some of Jeb!’s mantle as the adult Republican in the room http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/10/the-gop-cracking-up.html
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Oct 29, 2015 17:58
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evilweasel posted:I'd like a unicorn, because I too dislike dealing with reality. william jennings bryan owned, actually
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Oct 29, 2015 17:58
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icantfindaname posted:william jennings bryan owned, actually he was really spergy about the proper metals to use for a crucifixion
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Oct 29, 2015 18:00
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evilweasel posted:I'd like a unicorn, because I too dislike dealing with reality. I too, would like a unicorn, one that preferably shits rainbow sherbert. But you are correct that the thought of a strong 3rd party is in fantasy land.
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Oct 29, 2015 18:00
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I'm happy Ryan got sucked into the Speaker trap, it's going to destroy him, and I will enjoy it so much. The House Freedom Caucus will continue to be useless babies, Ryan will be forced to rely on Democrats to get anything done, and will be branded as a traitor in consequence. Because he's a young guy that lacks Boehner's political skill and won't do much fundraising, if any, because he wants to spend time with his family, he'll have very little leverage, and end up far less effectual. The media will ultimately be forced to admit Ryan is not very smart.
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Oct 29, 2015 18:01
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Whoa I just realized getting completely skullfucked by a billionaire political dilettante is a now Bush family tradition.
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Oct 29, 2015 18:01
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Spatula City posted:I'm happy Ryan got sucked into the Speaker trap, it's going to destroy him, and I will enjoy it so much. The House Freedom Caucus will continue to be useless babies, Ryan will be forced to rely on Democrats to get anything done, and will be branded as a traitor in consequence. Because he's a young guy that lacks Boehner's political skill and won't do much fundraising, if any, because he wants to spend time with his family, he'll have very little leverage, and end up far less effectual. The media will ultimately be forced to admit Ryan is not very smart. Ryan is going to take up chronic drinking.
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Oct 29, 2015 18:01
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The Jeb! campaign is hilarious train wreck and at no point has he shown any indication that he was capable of running a successful campaign for the nomination. The fact that people have spent months insisting otherwise and in some cases still do boggles my mind. Money and endorsements can't make up for this level of incompetence and unpopularity.
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Oct 29, 2015 18:04
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CommieGIR posted:Ryan is going to take up chronic tanning.
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Oct 29, 2015 18:06
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CommieGIR posted:Ryan is going to take up chronic.
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Oct 29, 2015 18:06
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SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE ON DRAFT
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Oct 29, 2015 18:06
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He'll take up chronic lifting and bro'ing.
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Oct 29, 2015 18:10
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zoux posted:Whoa I just realized getting completely skullfucked by a billionaire political dilettante is a now Bush family tradition. Who before Trump?
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Oct 29, 2015 18:10
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Civilized Fishbot posted:Who before Trump? Perot.
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Oct 29, 2015 18:12
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Evil Fluffy posted:Several debates in and the numbers for these people have not budged. I'm fine giving third parties a shot in the general but if they're still polling less than 5% after several debates it's time to drop them because they can't win, they can only gently caress up the election like Nader in 2000 or Perot in 1992. It's hard for me to believe that people still blame Nader for Gore not becoming president in 2000 despite it not being true even a little bit, but I guess the media narrative at the time was popular among defeatist liberals. Do you have any insights into how Bill Clinton caused the housing bubble collapse?
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Oct 29, 2015 18:14
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computer parts posted:Perot got like 30% in 1992. 19%, but he was also polling better than Huckbee-grade chucklefucks for a long while too.
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Oct 29, 2015 18:14
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The Jeb! campaign is bearing the sacred mantle of the culture of life but instead of baby food it's a broken man's political future slowly dribbling down a tube.
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Oct 29, 2015 18:14
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Good Citizen posted:Weakly moderated? That was the most hard line moderation we'll see in any of the debates for the rest of this primary. There were problems with the moderation for sure but I wouldn't call it weak considering what they were up against. Pages back, but just wanted to add that the shitshow was largely a result of the number of candidates. The rotating moderators and the apparent lack of instruction to the crowd (seriously Lehrer would have been tearing out throats after the first murmurs) didn't help either. There's no way to really delve into questions in a 10 person debate.
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Oct 29, 2015 18:15
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So I haven't been following the Ryan thing closely, did they end up agreeing to his weird demand to repeal the ability to vote him out or whatever?
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Oct 29, 2015 18:16
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El Cid posted:So I haven't been following the Ryan thing closely, did they end up agreeing to his weird demand to repeal the ability to vote him out or whatever? No.
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Oct 29, 2015 18:17
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icantfindaname posted:william jennings bryan owned, actually Bryan helped the Dems gobble up the Populists and destroy them as a party, so he was kind of an inverse-third party candidate.
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Oct 29, 2015 18:18
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Oracle posted:Perot. I look forward to the guy that founded Uber making Geroge P Bush accidentally say anti Semitic things in 2031.
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Oct 29, 2015 18:19
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zoux posted:Whoa I just realized getting completely skullfucked by a billionaire political dilettante is a now Bush family tradition. Also isn't one of HW's daughter's married to a Koch brother? edit: she is married to a man named Koch, but he is not one of the Koch brothers, my mistake.
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Oct 29, 2015 18:23
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I'm a little worried that Paul Ryan is going to be able to put a reasonable face on batshit insane policies..
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Oct 29, 2015 18:26
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mcmagic posted:I'm a little worried that Paul Ryan is going to be able to put a reasonable face on batshit insane policies.. 
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Oct 29, 2015 18:28
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Magugu posted:According to wikipedia, it was 18.9%. Still a fair number for a 3rd party. Have you looked at my New Order Party? I am just a quiet backbencher in it, but after that terrible incident on Eriadu it looks like the Corporate party is splitting and the fall of the Chancellor is leaving the Core party in disgrace. We are moving to form a coalition government with half of the Corporate party and a number of other reform parties, with the condition being that the reform parties reject their more radical constituencies to focus on serving the silent majority. Since reforming this republic will aid them as well we see it as advancing our shared goals and hope they feel the same way, rather than falling in with a charismatic religious demagogue or the more aggressive capitalist groups that split from the corporate party. And accusations of racial bias are unfounded, it is hardly my fault that the demographics have aligned like that. Accusations otherwise make it sound like I am some sort of shadowy manipulator, playing both sides. As I said, I am just a well liked but unassuming backbencher, but they are already looking at me as a compromise leader of the coalition owing my reputation of incorruptibility and perception of weakness (though really, child or not, norms of the senate be damned, I do answer to the girl by law and ceding my time and vote to her was not only legal but required. How was I to know she would call for a vote of no confidence? It doesn't matter that de facto power of a senator is greater than the [sovereign they represent, de jure I answer to her). Anyways, if elected I promise to enact the program's I have previously explained here. With me we will have safety, security, justice, and peace!
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Oct 29, 2015 18:29
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Quote of the day, "In any country, electoral campaigns offer the opportunity for a lot of bombastic nonsense. Let's be indulgent. The French work an average of 39,6 hours a week compared to 39,2 for the Germans. A French work week of 3 days? No but a pregnancy paid leave of 16 weeks yes! And proud of it." ~ French Ambassador to the United States Gérard Araud, in response to Jeb! attacking Rubio for maintaining a "French workweek".
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