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Dead Reckoning posted:We have other aerostat systems. It was probably PGSS or one of those. Also PTDS. There are two JLENS aerostats but only one complete system given that one is surveillance and the other fire control.
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Madurai posted:Well, then they'd definitely have a lawsuit from Boeing, then. Why? Boeing doesn't own ____fortress.
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http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/nukevault/ebb533-The-Able-Archer-War-Scare-Declassified-PFIAB-Report-Released/#_ftn3 report about able archer 83
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NightGyr posted:Don't forget blaming the gays. I left that out because that was not, in fairness, related to the age of the ships.
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TheFluff posted:
Had a friend who did his conscription that way. Apparently getting to be dog handler was the best assignment since you got a bed warmer. Also, as far as I recall these guys were located farther out from the planes, while close protection was carried out by normal grunts.
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Na, Närskydd wasn't reular grunts, they were supposed 'lower quality' from selection. Everyone was selected based on strenght-iq-psychology-whatever and the army/navy/airforce picked you based on what they deemed suited you (and them). Anyway, the standing opinion was that if you were conscripted to the airforce (exception being bas-jägare (what your friend was) tr. base-hunter  ) they deemed you rather badly.This got me thinking; perhaps there's reason for an effortpost bout different selection processes and recruitment philosophies between American, Soviet, and others?
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Na, Närskydd wasn't reular grunts, they were supposed 'lower quality' from selection. Everyone was selected based on strenght-iq-psychology-whatever and the army/navy/airforce picked you based on what they deemed suited you (and them). Anyway, the standing opinion was that if you were conscripted to the airforce (exception being bas-jägare (what your friend was) tr. base-hunter Well, rangers at least had to do some form of physical prowess test. Close protection (närskydd) was present for not only air force, but also in army for various support functions like artillery and logistics. Probably not too hard to become one, since they were basically the non-specialists in their respective companies. My point above was that air base rangers were not used as close protection, but rather as some form of scouting company searching for infiltrators. Which is more or less the function rangers had in the Swedish military i.e. scouts. As for the selection, I told my conscription officer I wanted to be far away from the front and ended up in the battalion headquarter for artillery.
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One last thing on the XB-70 move: the museum released their official video of the move. If you see someone very tall in a gray hoody, that's me!
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JLENS is another worthless, expensive clusterfuck.
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Naturally the Marine General on the Joint Chiefs of staff went to bat for it when the army tried to kill the program in 2010 e: quote:Cartwright retired the same year — and joined Raytheon’s board of directors five months later. As of the end of 2014, Raytheon had paid him more than $828,000 in cash and stock for serving as a director, Securities and Exchange Commission records show.
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I wouldn't say it was worthless - a persistent elevated sensor is still an incredibly useful capability and from a technical perspective JLENS was a decent attempt to address the engineering challenges. It really wasn't ever viable operationally though...which isn't the end of the world for a pilot system, but it does mean that its real usefulness was pretty limited. The real problem was 1) it was a "joint" system instead of having a single lead proponent, which meant that all decisions were convoluted and political and 2) the capability was so enticing that the program lived much longer than it ever should have.
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Scratch Monkey posted:Russian aircraft approach USS Ronald Reagan, prompting US fighter jet scramble Entire crew resigns in protest.
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Akion posted:Quick, someone make a GIF of an Arleigh Burke sprouting wings and chasing down a TU-142. Starblazers.gif
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Akion posted:Quick, someone make a GIF of an Arleigh Burke sprouting wings and chasing down a TU-142. VLS-fired GAU-8 equipped flying Gavins.
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Scratch Monkey posted:I like how they pass over an obvious radar some farm and boom there's a baseball field. Gosh I wonder if there are any Americans there! I'm like 100% sure that's that joint NSA/MI6 spook site.
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Speaking of the eighties, I don't care if this has been posted before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ciy5R-tLiE Best apocalypse soundtrack ever.
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MrMojok posted:They flew within 1 nm of the carrier?!?! Iran does it too. International waters and airspace bitches!
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I dunno how many of you guys were alive in the 80's but all this China and Russia poo poo is giving me a throbbing boner
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MrMojok posted:They flew within 1 nm of the carrier?!?! We really keep carriers deployed without CAP now? Jesus.
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'Combat' air patrol.
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Scratch Monkey posted:Russian aircraft approach USS Ronald Reagan, prompting US fighter jet scramble quote:The Reagan is essentially a floating airport, complete with an air traffic control center that tracks and communicates with nearby aircraft. When the carrier engages in flight operations, it institutes a carrier control zone, which extends up to 2,500 feet and within a five-mile radius, according to the Navy’s flight training instruction carrier procedures. Yet the safety zone for the Spratley airfields is (according to us) 1,500'?
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Phanatic posted:We really keep carriers deployed without CAP now? Jesus. The ship didn't wait until they were within a mile before launching. The article says they got that close, not that they got that close before the loving intercept.
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Phanatic posted:We really keep carriers deployed without CAP now? Jesus. Did you really think we kept a cap up every minute of every day that a carrier is at sea? Lol
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Godholio posted:The ship didn't wait until they were within a mile before launching. The article says they got that close, not that they got that close before the loving intercept. Pretty sure carriers have on board SAMs that can go further than 1 mile... right?
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They also don't sail alone, but don't let that get in the way of knee-jerk posting.
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Phanatic posted:We really keep carriers deployed without CAP now? Jesus. What do you want a cap to do in this case? Shoot down aircraft flying safely in international airspace not demonstrating hostile intent? uPen posted:Yet the safety zone for the Spratley airfields is (according to us) 1,500'? I'm not quite sure what you're getting at here. They don't do launch and recovery operations on the Spratlys, which is what the 5nm/2500ft CVN control zone is for.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:What do you want a cap to do in this case? Shoot down aircraft flying safely in international airspace not demonstrating hostile intent? Well, duh. gently caress those Russian shitlords.
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A Russian soldier jogged by me the other day and got pretty close. So I killed him.
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I'm sure we knew about them long before they were anywhere near the carrier. If someone thought they were a threat, some nice gents in F-18's would have met them at the door.
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mlmp08 posted:A Russian soldier jogged by me the other day and got pretty close. So I killed him. Is this a worrying sign that Putin's army are developing advanced cardiovascular capabilities for prolonged operations away from vehicles, or up a lot of stairs?
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Akion posted:I'm sure we knew about them long before they were anywhere near the carrier. If someone thought they were a threat, some nice gents in F-18's would have met them at the door. Or an SM-2 from 200 NM out.
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Coffeehitler posted:Well, duh. gently caress those Russian shitlords. I hope our "stealthy" radars have a mode designed to make Russian threat warning indicators light up like a Christmas tree. Kinda like how it's dumb to use a stealth fighter for sovereignty patrols as the entire point is to say "hello this is our border"
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