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So for the Waywatcher, which is better - Dual Waywatcher Blades or 'Lileath Stance' Sword and Dagger? The latter just dropped for me and it seems to be way better - fractionally reduced damage for a considerable speed boost, plus your basic attack gains Head Shot. And 3 Stamina instead of 2. Am I missing something, or is it just an upgrade?
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Gimnbo posted:So a handgun with a chance for increased attack speed basically one without a special ability, right? Yes, you'll be wanting to pray fervently to Sigmar or Grungi for a "master crafted" trait on a handgun, any other traits are gravy.
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Oct 29, 2015 22:57
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I find the penetration ability quite nice on my Dwarf's Handgun. Despite saying it will only penetrate one target, I've blown away at least 4 rats with a single shot.
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Oct 29, 2015 22:58
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Galaga Galaxian posted:I find the penetration ability quite nice on my Dwarf's Handgun. Despite saying it will only penetrate one target, I've blown away at least 4 rats with a single shot. Well yeah, it only penetrates one target. It just does so several times in a row 
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Oct 29, 2015 22:59
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I can't remember the exact wording off hand, but it implied, to me at least, that the ability would only fire once.
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Oct 29, 2015 23:02
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I think the handguns can penetrate 1 rat on it's own, so extra penetration is even more rats.
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Oct 29, 2015 23:03
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ninjaiguana posted:So for the Waywatcher, which is better - Dual Waywatcher Blades or 'Lileath Stance' Sword and Dagger? The latter just dropped for me and it seems to be way better - fractionally reduced damage for a considerable speed boost, plus your basic attack gains Head Shot. And 3 Stamina instead of 2. Am I missing something, or is it just an upgrade? You also get a second power attack with Sword + Dagger. Chain two in quick succession and the second will be a super powerful, single-target downward stab. Really, really fucks up Stormvermin and Rogres. And if you don't want to use that attack, you just pause a split second between power attacks to keep using the cross slash. Dual Swords is a good weapon setup, but SnD is king imo
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Oct 29, 2015 23:23
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Bolt staff owns because I get to go all DBZ on rats.
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Oct 29, 2015 23:31
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Is there any evidence that the loot table is weighted toward your played class? I don't play Bright Wizard but I can't stop getting staves.
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Oct 29, 2015 23:37
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Gimnbo posted:Is there any evidence that the loot table is weighted toward your played class? I don't play Bright Wizard but I can't stop getting staves. The loot table is definitely weighted - take a look at the pictures on the gear. When you're the Waywatcher, for instance, you'll see symbols indicating double weapons and bows more often, while as the dwarf you get less double weapons and more guns, and so on.
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Oct 29, 2015 23:39
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Gimnbo posted:Is there any evidence that the loot table is weighted toward your played class? I don't play Bright Wizard but I can't stop getting staves. Yes. It's trivially easy to visually confirm that the icons on the loot table are weighted towards your current class. Your results on that loot table...not so much.
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Oct 29, 2015 23:40
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Gimnbo posted:Is there any evidence that the loot table is weighted toward your played class? I don't play Bright Wizard but I can't stop getting staves. They also specifically mentioned changing things to do that in one of their release notes. I'm inclined to take their word, as doing a statistical analysis of the loot tables provided sounds like a lot of work.
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Oct 29, 2015 23:47
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I feel like this game is fun, but a bit too casual for me. Is there somewhere I could go to murder thousands of rats in real life?
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Oct 29, 2015 23:47
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e: nevermind people covered it i'm slow
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Oct 29, 2015 23:48
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Lemming posted:I feel like this game is fun, but a bit too casual for me. Is there somewhere I could go to murder thousands of rats in real life? You could go fight over slices of pizza with rats in the NYC subway tunnels. Close enough?
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Stringbean posted:You could go fight over slices of pizza with rats in the NYC subway tunnels. Close enough? Sack rat! Holy poo poo man, bless this ravaged pizza.
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Oct 29, 2015 23:59
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You know, the dwarf handgun may be good but I may never know because you'll have to pry these orange drakefire pistols with reduced heat buildup and projectile split from my cold dead hands. If I get an orange handgun maybe I'll replace it.
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Oct 30, 2015 00:00
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https://youtu.be/F9nGyPz9uT0?t=39 Me playing this game, humming this song, every time.
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Oct 30, 2015 00:01
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Captain Oblivious posted:Yes. It's trivially easy to visually confirm that the icons on the loot table are weighted towards your current class. Your results on that loot table...not so much. Ah, I don't actually pay attention to the loot table. I just see what comes out. That's on me, then. It doesn't help that I haven't quite figured out what all of the symbols necessarily are, especially the guns. Skandranon posted:They also specifically mentioned changing things to do that in one of their release notes. I'm inclined to take their word, as doing a statistical analysis of the loot tables provided sounds like a lot of work. Yeah all I was really looking for was "the devs said so."
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Oct 30, 2015 00:02
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Krinkle posted:https://youtu.be/F9nGyPz9uT0?t=39 This is basically exactly how Hammer Dorf feels.
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Oct 30, 2015 00:04
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DeathSandwich posted:You know, the dwarf handgun may be good but I may never know because you'll have to pry these orange drakefire pistols with reduced heat buildup and projectile split from my cold dead hands.
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Oct 30, 2015 00:06
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Ravenfood posted:I wish it was a little easier to see other players' loadouts. I know sperglords would flip out over not having all oranges or whatever, but I just want to see if someone is bringing along a handgun or crossbow to know whether I should or not. Look. We all know EVERYONE ELSE is gonna gently caress up. So you just gotta look out for number one, ya dig? A weapon or attack for weak mobs. (Fast, or number of targets, or both). Then a headshotty/armor piercing/anti special weapon or attack. If you have both your bases covered there, then you're good most of the time.
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Oct 30, 2015 00:16
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I'm a scrub elf and I rely on a trueflight bow with +30% arrow capacity. What the heck even is hagbane? Poison? 25 arrows? Do I dust this immediately so I can upgrade my legendary staff?
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Oct 30, 2015 01:05
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Hey guys just thought you all might like to know I got a trinket on my second run ever, 4% movespeed.
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DeathSandwich posted:You know, the dwarf handgun may be good but I may never know because you'll have to pry these orange drakefire pistols with reduced heat buildup and projectile split from my cold dead hands. Just got a Blue Dwarf Handgun with 50% Reload Speed and 20% chance to regain ammo on kill 
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Oct 30, 2015 01:09
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So I tried playing through the first level with bots when we got attacked by a rat ogre, a commander, a plague rat, and a gunner rat (plus the usual fodder rats) all at the same time. This seems a little extreme. It didn't end well (hilariously the BW and elf totally bailed on me and the dwarf, I think they were chasing a different special).
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Oct 30, 2015 01:10
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Fayk posted:Look. We all know EVERYONE ELSE is gonna gently caress up. the cool and good thing about drakefires is that they do both <3
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Oct 30, 2015 01:12
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It would be really nice if I could choose from the options available based on my loot dice. So I could get the white in the gear I want 5x or a blue for a class I don't play, my choice.
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Krinkle posted:I'm a scrub elf and I rely on a trueflight bow with +30% arrow capacity. What the heck even is hagbane? Poison? 25 arrows? Do I dust this immediately so I can upgrade my legendary staff? You can equip the thing in the tavern to get a feel for it, but what you see is what you get. A bow with no head shotting, no armor piercing, no homing, just a small fart cloud that rats won't give two shits about. Dust the fucker unless you want to keep one on hand in the event the devs not make it lovely.
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Oct 30, 2015 01:15
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Really dig this cool bug where the game fails to exist as its own window and so my mouse just runs off of it repeatedly 
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Wafflecopper posted:Hey guys just thought you all might like to know I got a trinket on my second run ever, 4% movespeed. My very first match yielded the green "share combat potions with your party" trinket. 25 playtime hours later it's still my only trinket 
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Ulvirich posted:You can equip the thing in the tavern to get a feel for it, but what you see is what you get. A bow with no head shotting, no armor piercing, no homing, just a small fart cloud that rats won't give two shits about. Dust the fucker unless you want to keep one on hand in the event the devs not make it lovely. I had a bad experience using upgrade gems on skills that don't do anything. I upgraded my trueflight bow with extra zoom and it doesn't zoom in the first place. Please tell me which of these is worth getting on an Infernal Embercage Staff. Reduce spread by 40% (seems pretty accurate enough to me and if not then 30 more fireballs can follow right behind it) 5-10% knockback chance (I haven't been happy with these ranged rolls ever and knockback at range seems dumb. That's what the battle scepter is for) 20% less venting damage (probably? Or who cares?)
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Chomp8645 posted:My very first match yielded the green "share combat potions with your party" trinket. If it helps it is one of the best. I was told someone had a Trinket today that gave you a free bomb every minute if you didn't have one. I don't know if this is true, it sounds too wonderful.
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Ulvirich posted:Yes, you'll be wanting to pray fervently to Sigmar or Grungi for a "master crafted" trait on a handgun, any other traits are gravy. I wasn't praying but I still got it  Also a small tip: if you have to heft sacks or barrels, here's a faster way to do it: press LMB with them, and just before they get thrown, jump. They get more distance and it just generally goes faster if you get the rhythm down. Helps a lot with Supply & Demand imo.
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^^^  Krinkle posted:Reduce spread by 40% (seems pretty accurate enough to me and if not then 30 more fireballs can follow right behind it) You really shouldn't vent if you're going to take damage anyways, so the last one is kind of a wash unless you like playing risks. The reduced spread sounds meh enough for a fireball staff. Finally, the only trait that seems good is the knockback one if only for crowd control.
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Krinkle posted:Reduce spread by 40% (seems pretty accurate enough to me and if not then 30 more fireballs can follow right behind it) quote:5-10% knockback chance (I haven't been happy with these ranged rolls ever and knockback at range seems dumb. That's what the battle scepter is for) quote:20% less venting damage (probably? Or who cares?) Coolguye fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Oct 30, 2015 |
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Oct 30, 2015 01:31
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Oct 30, 2015 01:48
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That's like something out of Resident Evil.
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Oh god yes. Orange mace and shield with extra stamina, 18%chance to not consume stamina on a block, and !10%chance on kill to heal 10%! I freaking love it
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Level 15 and I just got my 6th trinket  Also, there's an "Inspect Player" keybinding that I haven't used, though I don't know if it lets you see the target's loadout or what.
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