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emanresu tnuocca posted:In Mufti news, Netanyahu finally climbs down from the tree:
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Baracula posted:That video is taken entirely out of context. We don't know what happened before that minute. He was shot while trying to stab a soldier at a checkpoint.
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Oct 31, 2015 03:58
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Ultramega posted:He was shot while trying to stab a soldier at a checkpoint. Sounds like a good kill to me.
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hadji murad posted:Haha you come in with look at the bright side of dangerous holocaust revisionism that is going to get many people killed because it's coming from your side while hurling the most extreme hyperbole at people at the Palestinian side. I did no such loving thing. SyHopeful posted:KJI will figure out how to victim blame. This active shitposting. Kim Jong Il fucked around with this message at 04:31 on Oct 31, 2015 |
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Oct 31, 2015 04:28
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Disinterested posted:Reasons to shoot an unarmed person writhing on the ground include I certainly don't think there are any, but then again I don't understand why some people appear to believe that "it was a Zionist colonialist" is a legitimate rationalization for stabbing unarmed people to death, so maybe I just don't have the correct "the Enemy are subhuman and may be slain as such" mindset. 
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The Insect Court posted:I certainly don't think there are any, but then again I don't understand why some people appear to believe that "it was a Zionist colonialist" is a legitimate rationalization for stabbing unarmed people to death, so maybe I just don't have the correct "the Enemy are subhuman and may be slain as such" mindset. Hrm it's almost like it's possible to morally consistently oppose both without favouring one side.
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The Insect Court posted:I certainly don't think there are any, but then again I don't understand why some people appear to believe that "it was a Zionist colonialist" is a legitimate rationalization for stabbing unarmed people to death, so maybe I just don't have the correct "the Enemy are subhuman and may be slain as such" mindset. Right, you aren't capable of holding onto an opinion for more than the length of time it takes to write your posts (granted, probably upwards of an hour) but I don't understand why you're being self-congratulatory about it?
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This thread does more poorly the more people argue with their hyperbolic conceptions of what other posters post rather than with actual posts. I've been lenient because Jesus Christ the loving Prime Minister was practicing Holocaust denial, we're through the looking glass folks, etc, but I will start dishing out probations again if people keep this up. Case in point: SyHopeful posted:KJI will figure out how to victim blame. death .cab for qt posted:"If they weren't victims, they wouldn't need to be blamed" You're shadow-boxing. Knock it off. Also: The Insect Court posted:I certainly don't think there are any, but then again I don't understand why some people appear to believe that "it was a Zionist colonialist" is a legitimate rationalization for stabbing unarmed people to death, so maybe I just don't have the correct "the Enemy are subhuman and may be slain as such" mindset. This kind of whataboutism was not very productive when Soviets and fellow travelers were doing it, and isn't very amusing every single time you do it here. I suggest you find other ways to contribute to the thread.
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Oct 31, 2015 04:41
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Disinterested posted:Hrm it's almost like it's possible to morally consistently oppose both without favouring one side. Moral precepts should be universal, it does not matter who they are applied to.
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Oct 31, 2015 04:42
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Dead Reckoning posted:Moral precepts should be universal, it does not matter who they are applied to. I don't think you understand what that post says.
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Oct 31, 2015 04:46
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Absurd Alhazred posted:fellow travelers
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Oct 31, 2015 05:19
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FlamingLiberal posted:That sure took a long time, after Germany came out I think the same day to say "No, really, we totally did this". It must have been the best day to work in the German diplomatic corp ever, when they were able to take the high road in a dispute with Israel over the Holocaust. That kind of opportunity can't come around too often.
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Comrade Fakename posted:It must have been the best day to work in the German diplomatic corp ever, when they were able to take the high road in a dispute with Israel over the Holocaust. That kind of opportunity can't come around too often. I'm pretty sure that's not how they saw it. Some people in here have suggested it was embarassing for the Germans to have to come out and re-assert their guilt; here it's implied there might have been a smug satisfaction. It's neither. Government officials taking responsibility for the holocaust is just routine, public officials have to do it all the time in Germany. Being rude to Israel diplomatically is, however, still fairly haram in Germany because of the holocaust, and so the German statement was exclusively focused on German culpability and not overly directly on Bibi's remarks.
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Oct 31, 2015 08:37
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Xander77 posted:Really? Are you going to resurrect "outside agitators" next? (Whoops, that's already a thing) Most histories of the early 20th century American left, many of which are written by sympathetic figures, make liberal usage of this term. It doesn't really have a negative connotation at all on this side of the pond.
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Stateside I don't recall agitators being used in anything close to a positive light.
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RandomPauI posted:Stateside I don't recall agitators being used in anything close to a positive light. He means "fellow travelers".
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What's the word on Al-Monitor's Shlomi Eldar as a journalist?
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http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/10/israeli-forces-gas-die-151031140951304.htmlquote:Israeli border police have issued a shocking threat to Palestinians in Aida refugee camp, saying, "We will gas you until you die," in an apparent response to stone-throwing.  There really is no irony, is there.
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OK, I know what you're thinking, but the gas did not come from a truck, tank engine or canisters, and was not pumped into an enclosed space. Also there was nobody tracking the gassing on IBM punchcards. I know what you're thinking but don't say it! You're about to cheapen this discourse!
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Oct 31, 2015 19:52
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5 year over/under on large-scale industrialized mass murder of the palestinian people, place your bets now.
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Oct 31, 2015 20:12
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Kim Jong Il posted:
All you and IC do is poo poo post. Both of you use the same cowardly tactic of twisting the words of others half the time and the other you simply ignore points you have no way of twisting and deflecting. And you loving know it too. The wretched way you act speaks of people who know they argue in bad faith. But I guess it doesn't matter when your battle was never about facts but instead a way of justifying ethnic hatred.
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Oct 31, 2015 20:15
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Did anyone hear anything about those talk Tony Blair was managing with regard to the shipping embargo?
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Oct 31, 2015 20:42
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Kim Jong Il posted:This active shitposting. I passively shitpost. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Oct 31, 2015 21:49
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Kim Jong Il posted:This active shitposting. Please don't sign your posts. Is it me or has HAMAS been pretty quiet recently? All the news seems to be focused on the west bank because of the temple mount stuff but usually Gaza ties in somehow.
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Oct 31, 2015 22:00
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CommieGIR posted:http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/10/israeli-forces-gas-die-151031140951304.html They're probably referring to ridiculous amounts of tear gas, rather than literal gas chambers - "excessive tear gas inhalation" is one of the primary causes of hospital visits following a Palestinian protest that gets a visit from the IDF.
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Yeah, they killed an 8-month old child through tear gas inhalation on Friday. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/30/baby-dies-west-bank-inhaling-teargas-palestinian-ministry-israel
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Regarde Aduck posted:All you and IC do is poo poo post. Both of you use the same cowardly tactic of twisting the words of others half the time and the other you simply ignore points you have no way of twisting and deflecting. And you loving know it too. The wretched way you act speaks of people who know they argue in bad faith. But I guess it doesn't matter when your battle was never about facts but instead a way of justifying ethnic hatred. Unlike you, I'm actually debating matters of fact. Actually responding to arguments is "twisting words", great, I guess this post probably needs a trigger warning then. I've never made denigrating comments about any ethnicity, but enjoy your loving lies and made up bullshit.
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Kim Jong Il posted:Unlike you, I'm actually debating matters of fact. Actually responding to arguments is "twisting words", great, I guess this post probably needs a trigger warning then. I've never made denigrating comments about any ethnicity, but enjoy your loving lies and made up bullshit. At least the upside of all these false accusations against you is all the poo poo posting in the thread will be brought to light.
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Kim Jong Il posted:Unlike you, I'm actually debating matters of fact. Actually responding to arguments is "twisting words", great, I guess this post probably needs a trigger warning then. I've never made denigrating comments about any ethnicity, but enjoy your loving lies and made up bullshit. I don't think you get to revel in being an rear end in a top hat and then complain about people disliking you. There's just a big gap there.
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Kim Jong Il posted:Unlike you, I'm actually debating matters of fact. Actually responding to arguments is "twisting words", great, I guess this post probably needs a trigger warning then. I've never made denigrating comments about any ethnicity, but enjoy your loving lies and made up bullshit. For what it's worth, I think your general stance doesn't merit responses usually but I can't recall a single instance of you bringing up ethnicity in the sense that guy is talking about. Jesus christ is it that hard to go through someone's post history and provide an example?
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Ultramega posted:For what it's worth, I think your general stance doesn't merit responses usually but I can't recall a single instance of you bringing up ethnicity in the sense that guy is talking about. Jesus christ is it that hard to go through someone's post history and provide an example? Most of the phone apps don't have a working post history or "filter posts in thread by user" option. So it is kinda hard, not that it's not more likely all "pro-Israel" posters tend to get beliefs assigned to them, rather than responding to their expressed beliefs. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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I was anticipating you using the excuse of "hey i'm phoneposting, sue me". I read pretty much all of robert e. howard's conan novels on a cellphone screen on a lovely nokia razr knockoff so what is your excuse again? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Nov 1, 2015 02:15
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LeoMarr posted:2020 Israeli PM Declares Holocaust a Palestinian Hoax. Considering Netanjahu had the gall to say "We have to fight terrorism like Rabin" I wouldn't put it past him. According to this article about the 20th anniversary of the assassination of Rabin, Rabin did more for peace with the Palestinians then any Israeli-politician before or after him. Back in 1985, the year Rabin was shot, Netanjahu was his fiercest enemy and the only thing he didn't do was pulling the trigger. That was Jigal Amir, who is still in prison now. So if Netanjahu takes his word seriously, he would have to do a full 180° and we would be back with the two-state-solution and Israel backing an independent Palestine. Though I think the smart bet would be on him just trying to milk an important event in Israel's history for his own gain.
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Hey, look, here's something more interesting than your dumb slapfights about what you think of each other's posting styles http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4718225,00.html quote:A Palestinian laborer found a creative way to move around freely in Jerusalem's ultra-Orthodox neighborhoods and avoid harassment following the recent wave of terror: He dressed up as a Hasidic Jew. Aside from the obvious, this highlights an oft-overlooked factor: Israeli dependence on low-wage Arab workers. This guy dressed up as a Jew to avoid harassment on his way to his day job of cleaning a synagogue.
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Main Paineframe posted:They're probably referring to ridiculous amounts of tear gas, rather than literal gas chambers - "excessive tear gas inhalation" is one of the primary causes of hospital visits following a Palestinian protest that gets a visit from the IDF. I know that, but that hardly makes that comment BETTER.
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Ultramega posted:I was anticipating you using the excuse of "hey i'm phoneposting, sue me". I read pretty much all of robert e. howard's conan novels on a cellphone screen on a lovely nokia razr knockoff so what is your excuse again? Like all people outside the nation of Israel, I seek the annihilation of the religion of Judaism, the ethnicities that have been traditionally associated with Judaism, and the cultural traditions associated with those ethnicities. I plan to do this by believing really hard that Israel does many shitheaded things edit: and also refusing to admit that Arabs are equally bad, as an ethnicity, as the state of Israel is. In any case, congratulations on reading a suicidal mama's boy on a phone screen.
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Yeah anyway, do any of the good posters know anything else about this UN resolution I heard about today that New Zealand and Russia seem to be trying to push regarding a two-state settlement? I think I read about it earlier on al-jazeera america briefly. Not that I actually think it'll amount to anything with the goddamn USA veto hanging over every single decision of note regarding the conflict but main paineframe tends to be really on point when it comes to linking news articles and stuff pertaining to the topic. Ultramega fucked around with this message at 04:30 on Nov 1, 2015 |
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Ultramega posted:Yeah anyway, do any of the good posters know anything else about this UN resolution I heard about today that New Zealand and Russia seem to be trying to push regarding a two-state settlement? I think I read about it earlier on al-jazeera america briefly. You little poo poo, you jumped on me, lying about the content of my post, and I responded appropriately for your level of honesty and decency. Hopefully you will someday face the consequences for your behavior, but in the interim, all I can do is sneer.
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CommieGIR posted:http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/10/israeli-forces-gas-die-151031140951304.html God's getting pretty heavy handed
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Main Paineframe posted:Hey, look, here's something more interesting than your dumb slapfights about what you think of each other's posting styles Boy THAT's not going to kick anybody's paranoia into overdrive. Stealth Palestinian cleaners.
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