I/P: post-semitism in the desert of the deal

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Homura and Sickle: Apr 21, 2013

NEW THREAD RULES AND NEW MOD TO ENFORCE THEM :siren:

A message from new D&D mod Absurd Alhazred:

Hey folks, just a head's up, after leaving this thread in a huff about a month ago, I've now been made mod and this is probably going to be a thread I will be focusing on. For those of you who don't know me, I'm an Israeli expat but extremely left wing (at least in Israeli terms).

Here is my conception of how discussion here will proceed:

Considering the shitshow that is the current government, the vulgar brutality of the occupation regime in the West Bank, the maintenance of Gaza as an open-air prison, and a myriad of racist legal and quasi-legal practices inside the Green Line, I am sure those of you who want can find many substantiated atrocities to cry foul over, and I encourage that. I will not, however tolerate blatant pushing of conspiracy theories and antisemitism.

As for people promoting what is usually referred to as a "pro-Israel" stance, I personally am not going to probate/ban you just for saying outrageous things, as long as you argue for them well. But I am going to have a low tolerance for rehashed Hasbara talking points, and definitely for bigotry towards Arabs, Jews of a descent you don't like, African asylum seekers, Muslim generally or specifically of some sect, Christians, Europeans, etc. Many of my ancestors were murdered in the Holocaust or suffered the rigors of the Pale of Settlement, and their descendents helped build Israel, for better or for worse, but that is no excuse for being bigoted assholes towards non-Jews now out of some misplaced sense of entitlement. Keep that under control, at least here.

Now that that's out of the way, feel free to report what you think are excesses, PM me about issues, etc. I'm here to help make this thread work.

END COMMUNICATION

Original OP:

:pcgaming:

TO SUPPORT PALESTINIAN HUMANITARIAN RELIEF EFFORTS IN A MANNER BEYOND BITCHING YOU CAN DONATE TO THE FOLLOWING ORGANIZATIONS :pcgaming:

http://www.map-uk.org/

http://www.unrwa.org/

credit: Exclamation Marx

Here are all of the good posts in this thread:
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3682289&userid=184584

ISRAEL'S MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE OF JAPAN IMPORTANT PLEASE WATCH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFT22S9euEI
shalom-chan ^_^

EDIT: basically no one is following the below advice, but rest assured, if you don't you are a stupid oval office and your house should be bulldozed, you loving idiot.

:gifttank:

HELPFUL TIPS FOR POSTING IN THIS THREAD :gifttank:

1) You should probably not engage with My Imaginary GF. He is just trolling.

2) Please keep rape analogies to a minimum (ie none)

3) Posting about posting is stupid. Post about Israel s'il vous plait

4) Everyone who criticizes Israeli treatment of Palestinians is an anti-semite, this is established fact so stop discussing it.

I got the go ahead to open a new I/P thread to funnel all the poo poo posting that entails.

THE STORY SO FAR: After Israel did as Israel do to provoke the Palestinians, some Palestinian men entered a synagogue and killed four and wounded 8 others. There have been clashes between Israeli police and Palestinians and things might be spiraling out of control, possibly towards yet another armed conflict.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/11/jerusalem-synagogue-attacked-gunmen-201411185401123578.html

quote:

Fighting has broken out between Israeli police and Palestinians in Jerusalem and the occupied West Bank following an attack on a synagogue in the west of the city in which four Israelis were killed and eight others injured by two Palestinian men.

The Palestinian attackers, who police said were armed with a gun and axes, were shot dead by police after gaining entrance to the Har Nof Synagogue on Tuesday.

Palestinian medical sources told Al Jazeera that at least 35 Palestinians were wounded in confrontations between the Israeli security forces and Palestinian protesters in Jerusalem after the synagogue attack.

Sources said that 10 Palestinians were wounded in Al Ram, located in northeast Jerusalem, and 25 others were wounded in Sur Baher, south of the city.

There were also reports of confrontations in Ramallah, in the West Bank, as three Israeli military vehicles drove by the outskirts of the city. Minor confrontations were also reported at the illegal Psagot settlement, south of Ramallah.

In response to the synagogue attack, Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who warned of a "harsh response," ordered the demolition of the homes of the two Palestinians who carried out the attack.

Israeli soldiers and vehicles started the demolition on Tuesday evening.

Netanyahu said that Hamas, the Palestinian faction that governs the Gaza Strip, had spread lies that Israel was trying to take control of a religious site in occupied East Jerusalem, called Temple Mount by Israelis and Haram al-Sharif by Arabs.

"This caused the attacks," Netanyahu said. "There is no end to their [Hamas's] terror against the state of Israel."

Earlier, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas condemned the killings while Hamas said it was "a natural reaction to Israel's practices" against Palestinians.

Have fun you guys!

CONTENT:

Some information that might be useful for understanding the current unrest:

A map of restrictions on access to the West Bank. If this looks like a border that's more restrictive than either then southern or northern borders of the United States, that's because it is.

h/t fade5

Advocacy for the divestment movement:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASIBGSSw4lI

h/t Dilkington

If anyone has anything else useful please let me know.

Infographics by Darkcrawler on why Israel is an apartheid/colonial occupying state

Somebody fucked around with this message at 06:03 on May 17, 2015

# ? Nov 18, 2014 20:27

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# ? Apr 29, 2024 15:15

My Imaginary GF: Jul 17, 2005; by R. Guyovich

Israel stands against a Hamas-ISIS alliance. America cannot let them stand alone.

E:

A more elaborate explanation is that, like ISIS, the current attacks in Israel appear to be a social movement attracting disaffected individuals to promote the aims of more amoral political organizations. In this, Hamas is like ISIS where they take advantage of an underlying resentment against state institutions to promote their own agenda, with the assistance of foreign support.

My Imaginary GF fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Nov 18, 2014

# ? Nov 18, 2014 20:28

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

My Imaginary GF posted:

Israel stands against a Hamas-ISIS alliance. America cannot let them stand alone.

First troll of the thread!

# ? Nov 18, 2014 20:30

woke wedding drone: Jun 1, 2003; by exmarx; Fun Shoe

My Imaginary GF posted:

Israel stands against a Hamas-ISIS alliance. America cannot let them stand alone.

E:

A more elaborate explanation is that, like ISIS, the current attacks in Israel appear to be a social movement attracting disaffected individuals to promote the aims of more amoral political organizations.

OK now would you like to translate that into something remotely true or factual, for people not bound to agree with it by a complex system of patronage?

# ? Nov 18, 2014 20:32

Rent-A-Cop: Oct 15, 2004; I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

Whats the difference between an Intifada and the normal cycle of terrorism/retaliatory bombing?

# ? Nov 18, 2014 20:32

My Imaginary GF: Jul 17, 2005; by R. Guyovich

SedanChair posted:

OK now would you like to translate that into something remotely true or factual, for people not bound to agree with it by a complex system of patronage?

America has had to compromise on its acceptance of Assad's power base remaining in power in Syria. This is a case which Netanyahu has surely learned an invaluable lesson from.

Rent-A-Cop posted:

Whats the difference between an Intifada and the normal cycle of terrorism/retaliatory bombing?

The normal cycle is more predictable. An intifada is random knifings of Jewish targets.

# ? Nov 18, 2014 20:33

Who What Now: Sep 10, 2006; by Azathoth

My Imaginary GF posted:

A more elaborate explanation is that, like ISIS, the current attacks in Palestine appear to be a social movement attracting disaffected individuals to promote the aims of more amoral political organizations. In this, the IDF are like ISIS where they take advantage of an underlying resentment against state institutions to promote their own agenda, with the assistance of foreign support.

Fixed that for you.

# ? Nov 18, 2014 20:35

Crowsbeak: Oct 9, 2012; by Azathoth; Lipstick Apathy

So knowing that Abbas is largely a Israeli stooge, how much can he bottle up Palestinians from going into full on resistance mode in the west bank?

# ? Nov 18, 2014 20:35

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

Crowsbeak posted:

So knowing that Abbas is largely a Israeli stooge, how much can he bottle up Palestinians from going into full on resistance mode in the west bank?

Bombing is in fashion this season.

# ? Nov 18, 2014 20:36

My Imaginary GF: Jul 17, 2005; by R. Guyovich

Crowsbeak posted:

So knowing that Abbas is largely a Israeli stooge, how much can he bottle up Palestinians from going into full on resistance mode in the west bank?

About as much as Netanyahu can bottle up Israelis from going into full on Bashar Al-Assad mode in the West Bank.

# ? Nov 18, 2014 20:37

woke wedding drone: Jun 1, 2003; by exmarx; Fun Shoe

My Imaginary GF posted:

America has had to compromise on its acceptance of Assad's power base remaining in power in Syria. This is a case which Netanyahu has surely learned an invaluable lesson from.

I'm MIGF, I like to weigh in on things I understand. Here's my take on I/P: "Netanyahu learns"

# ? Nov 18, 2014 20:40

How are u: May 19, 2005; by Azathoth

Israel very deliberately made its bed, and now it has to sleep in it.

# ? Nov 18, 2014 20:41

Crowsbeak: Oct 9, 2012; by Azathoth; Lipstick Apathy

Mondoweiss posted:

Settlers spit on Abu Khdeir family as they exit court; alleged killer refuses to enter plea
Israel/Palestine
Allison Deger on November 18, 2014 6 Comments
Yosef Ben-David, 29, accused ringleader in the murder and abduction of Mohammed Abu Khdeir. (Photo: Allison Deger)
Yosef Ben-David, 29, accused ringleader in the murder and abduction of Mohammed Abu Khdeir. (Photo: Allison Deger)
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Today was more difficult than most trips to the Jerusalem District Court for the grieving family of the late 16-year old Mohammed Abu Khdeir, who was abducted and then burned to death in a nationalistic crime by Israeli right-wingers in July, just before the summer war in Gaza. Aside from an early winter rain, and slow progress in the murder trial, settlers spat on them as they exited the courthouse.

On the sidewalk a scuffle followed the Abu Khdeirs on their way home. Approaching their car, settlers recognized them; for Abu Khdeir relatives� faces have become synonymous with the on-going unrest in Jerusalem. The Israelis, a group of religious-nationalist youth, were also in court that day, but for an altogether different case .They allegedly accosted Palestinians. �They came after us,� said Amsam Abu Khdeir, 27, a cousin of the deceased. He stated that one of the Israeli-nationalists �spit on my cousin and then he said to the police, see the Arabs��

To Palestinians �Mohammed� conjures more than the name of the prophet. He is a child killed by vigilantism and racism cultivated by the state of Israel, a symbol of the unchecked violence Palestinians experience from anti-Arab extremists that was manifested last summer by throngs of rightists youths explicitly �hunting� for Arabs. And his death carries over to the more recent killings of four Palestinians in Jerusalem who were gunned down for the attempted killing, actual killing or suspected killing of Israelis.

Abu Khdeir�s alleged murderers were in court today for a second pre-trial. All three defendants were supposed to enter pleas. In the session the self-proclaimed ringleader of the group, Yosef Haim Ben-David, 29, refused to cooperate. His lawyer told the judge he could not give a statement on guilt on behalf of his client, as was the case in the last pre-trial in October. Today, the delay was because Ben-David is no longer speaking.

The two accused minors pleaded guilty on the charge of abducting Abu Khdeir from outside of his Shuafat home in East Jerusalem, but pleaded not guilty on the charge of murder. They claim that in the spirit of the moment Ben-David alone poured lighter fluid down the kidnapped youth�s throat, doused him in the chemical and then set him alight.
Relatives of Mohammed Abu Khdeir, Jerusalem District Court, November 17, 2014. (Photo: Allison Deger)

Relatives of Mohammed Abu Khdeir, Jerusalem District Court, November 17, 2014. (Photo: Allison Deger)
Parents of Mohammed Abu Khdeir, Jerusalem District Court, November 17, 2014. (Photo: Allison Deger)

Parents of Mohammed Abu Khdeir, Jerusalem District Court, November 17, 2014. (Photo: Allison Deger)

Outside of the hearing room, camerapersons were kept at bay behind blue metal barricades, the kind that are used by police to block streets during riots. Just under a dozen journalists crammed into a corridor. The arrivals and departures were recorded: The family of the defendants entered first, then the Abu Khdeirs. The state prosecutor followed, warmly greeting Abu Khdeir�s father, Hussein Abu Khdeir. But the real draw of the day was Ben-David who again appeared unkempt in court. His black hair was uneven and multi-directional, tucked under a religious skullcap. His beard appeared spotty, yet strong. He sported a black tracksuit with red and gray trim, and his staple of courtroom attire: neon yellow crocs worn over thick gray socks. White tzitzit (religious trims) hung from his waistline.

The hearing itself lasted about thirty minutes. With two pleas delivered, and one withheld, what filled up the rest of the court�s time were procedural matters. The judge scheduled one more motion before the presentation of evidence. The state�s attorney will meet with representatives for the three defendants (they each have separate lawyers) in December to cap the number of witnesses. As of now the prosecution has a hefty list of 113 persons ready to give testimony. The actual trial will not begin until January.

Additionally, the results of an independent mental health review that Ben-David�s lawyer had asked for in the last meeting were not submitted, or rather they were not brought up at all.

When the pre-trial closed, the two minors and Ben-David walked handcuffed with police escorts towards a rear stairwell. One of the accused youths crouched with his head inside his sweatshirt, preventing a glimpse of his unknown face. The identities of the accused youths are sealed because they are minors.

But Ben-David, he strolled. His gaze was stoic, locking eyes with media workers.

The murder trial is part spectacle. Journalists came, in part, to log Ben-David�s moves. The settler from Adam is mounting an insanity defense, authentically or otherwise. In his first court appearance, Ben David announced that he is �the messiah.� Since then no one has heard him speak except for occasional mumbling noises he made during his last court appearance in October.

�He looked me in the eye and he didn�t take his eyes off of me. That was scary,� said Amsam Abu Khdeir, of the accused�s October appearance in the justice hall. Yet this time, Ben-David avoided eye contact during the hearing, staring off into space, unresponsive to his own name.

However, weeks ago state mental health officials reviewed Ben-David and deemed him of sound mind.

�He�s not crazy! He�s not crazy,� said Amsam Abu Khdeir emphatically. �He planned to kidnap and murder a kid. If you read the whole deposition he talks about exactly what he did,� she said referring to a play-by-play confession Ben-David gave to police before the hearing started. He even led them on a reenactment tour. �That�s the craziest thing that I�ve heard. �That I�m crazy, but I can plan.��
Yosef Ben-David, 29, accused ringleader in the murder and abduction of Mohammed Abu Khdeir. (Photo: Allison Deger)

Yosef Ben-David, 29, accused ringleader in the murder and abduction of Mohammed Abu Khdeir. (Photo: Allison Deger)

After his July indictment, in chilling detail Ben-David recounted the facts of the crime. He said one of the minors choked Abu Khdeir. He admitted to beating him with a metal pole. Then he said the three of them poured gasoline on him and Ben-David fired up the lighter. �We were hot and angry, and decided we�d burn something of the Arabs�,� he told police. The confessed even showed remorse in the policing questioning�albeit remorse tinged with racism and notions of Jewish supremacy, telling his interrogator after the crime he told the other defendants: �We had a purpose but this is not for us. We were wrong. We are merciful Jews. We are human beings.�

Ben-David also admitted that days before Abu Khdeir was abducted he and one of the indicted minors were responsible for a failed kidnapping of seven-year old Mousa Zaloum who was nearly grabbed off of the same street where the three found Abu Khdeir. That child�s mother struck the kidnappers ultimately chasing them away. The police were called. Nothing happened. Then a few days later Abu Khdeir was taken.

The stakes are high for Ben-David. If he�s found guilty of the gruesome murder and abduction he will be issued a mandatory life sentence. Alternatively if he succeeds in a presentation of not being criminally liable due to insanity, he will be ushered off to a mental hospital and released upon regaining his health. That could happen in as little as a six-months stay in a psychological ward. But in some sense, the state is already being harsh with him. It implemented a Mandate-era law that forbids the presence of lawyers when questioned, only employed for Israeli-Jews once or twice in Israel�s history according to the lawyer for the victim�s family.
Family of Mohammed Abu Khdeir. (Photo: Allison Deger)

Family of Mohammed Abu Khdeir. (Photo: Allison Deger)

�It�s sadness and it�s anger; it�s mixed feelings when you hear people talking about Mohammed,� said Amsam Abu Khdeir. Her family is a national exhibition, of unattainable justice. There was a media circus this summer when Abu Khdeir�s cousin, Tareq Abu Khdeir, 15, was brought in front of cameras for the first time after Israeli police beat and arrested him. CCTV footage showed the younger Abu Khdeir as he slipped out of consciousness from blows to the head by border police during protest in the wake of his cousin�s killing.

�After Mohammed, everything just exploded,� said cousin Amsam Abu Khdeir. Following her relative�s murder, Shuafat, once a quiet leafy Palestinian suburb of Jerusalem, descended into constant chaos. Palestinians demonstrated around the clock for nearly a week over the police�s ineptitude and crackdown. Her family endured an investigation that fingered Abu Khdeir�s father, rather than looking into the killing as a nationalistically motivated crime by Israeli-Jewish settlers. The police even distributed false claims that the youth was murdered by his family because he was gay. Border authorities also stationed themselves outside of the family home, firing tear gas into the mourners tent.

�Actually, there�s a lot of tension. There�s a lot of police cars everywhere,� continued Amsam Abu Khdeir, describing how Shuafat has remained embroiled in clashes between Palestinians and the authorities. �Every 10 meters you see soldiers, or police rather,� she said. Just last week, police called Amsam Abu Khdeir�s father and uncle and told them the memorial banner bearing Mohammed�s face was illegal and must be taken down.

The hearing comes at a time of growing discomfort for Palestinians with Israeli policies. This week, the Israeli knesset is considering a law that would state, �the State of Israel is the national state of the Jewish People,� as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a cabinet meeting on Sunday. The law would also strike Arabic as one of the state�s national languages.

The Abu Khdeir family has witnessed another unequal application of Israeli law. On Monday, Netanyahu called for the sealing or demolition of the homes of six Palestinians who are alleged to have killed or tried to kill Israelis. The Abu Khdeir�s have been calling for weeks for the demolition of the homes of the defendants in their son�s case, to no avail. �Everyone knows that they [the defendants] are monsters and they are killers. They murdered my cousin in cold blood,� said Amsam Abu Khdeir.

After weeks of trial delays, her frustrations are peaking. �At least to give them prison for life� I don�t know what to say,� she said. �Actually I hope they are burned alive like my cousin.� Such sentiments are heard commonly these days in Jerusalem, on both sides of the conflict.

Seriously how likely is it that the guy can get off on the "insanity" defense?

# ? Nov 18, 2014 20:41

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

How are u posted:

Israel very deliberately made its bed, and now it has to sleep in it.

You can't start an I/P thread without reminding people about Netanyahu's chart skills:

See? He was really trying to tell his just how much of a powder keg he was creating!

"I've hosed up THIS much"

# ? Nov 18, 2014 20:43

Crowsbeak: Oct 9, 2012; by Azathoth; Lipstick Apathy

CommieGIR posted:

You can't start an I/P thread without reminding people about Netanyahu's chart skills:

See? He was really trying to tell his just how much of a powder keg he was creating!

After the Kincaid and Eastwood Chair versions, this is probably my favorite photoshop phriday.

# ? Nov 18, 2014 20:44

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

Crowsbeak posted:

After the Kincaid and Eastwood Chair versions, this is probably my favorite photoshop phriday.

Easily. I miss real Photoshop threads...

# ? Nov 18, 2014 20:44

JeffersonClay: Jun 17, 2003; by R. Guyovich

Crowsbeak posted:

So knowing that Abbas is largely a Israeli stooge, how much can he bottle up Palestinians from going into full on resistance mode in the west bank?

How are we knowing this?

# ? Nov 18, 2014 21:00

Zedsdeadbaby: Jun 14, 2008; You have been called out, in the ways of old.

Yasser Arafat stole billions from the Palestinians and died with it. Nothing but a bunch of crooks either side of the imaginary border.

# ? Nov 18, 2014 21:01

My Imaginary GF: Jul 17, 2005; by R. Guyovich

JeffersonClay posted:

How are we knowing this?

Because he doesn't call for death to israel at every turn, he is obviously an Israeli stooge and likelong a Mossad plant. This is the actual opinion of individuals. This is not an insane position to hold for most readers of this thread.

To me, its absolutely fuckn insanity.

# ? Nov 18, 2014 21:02

woke wedding drone: Jun 1, 2003; by exmarx; Fun Shoe

My Imaginary GF posted:

Because he doesn't call for death to israel at every turn, he is obviously an Israeli stooge and likelong a Mossad plant. This is the actual opinion of individuals. This is not an insane position to hold for most readers of this thread.

To me, its absolutely fuckn insanity.

Would he have his position without Mossad?

# ? Nov 18, 2014 21:03

D1Sergo: May 5, 2006; Be sure to take a 15-minute break every hour.

My mom posted on Facebook that we should get EVERYONE out of the area, put a fence around it and let no one have it. Thanks mom :colbert:

# ? Nov 18, 2014 21:04

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

D1Sergo posted:

My mom posted on Facebook that we should get EVERYONE out of the area, put a fence around it and let no one have it. Thanks mom

Both of you are in time out, no retaliatory strikes!

# ? Nov 18, 2014 21:10

My Imaginary GF: Jul 17, 2005; by R. Guyovich

CommieGIR posted:

Both of you are in time out, no retaliatory strikes!*

*definition of strike differs by side. Terms and conditions for time-out may apply. See contract for details. Contract only available in select religions.

# ? Nov 18, 2014 21:13

Edgar Quintero: Oct 5, 2004; POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS
DO NOT GIVE HEROIN

I for one look forward to a funkalicious continuation of the Thizzraeli-Ballerstyllian Chronflict.

edit: seriously though I hope civillian casualties are low to non-existent and that this thing wraps up shortly.

# ? Nov 18, 2014 21:13

loquacius: Oct 21, 2008

Communocracy posted:

I for one look forward to a funkalicious continuation of the Thizzraeli-Ballerstyllian Chronflict.

edit: seriously though I hope civillian casualties are low to non-existent and that this thing wraps up shortly.

I too hope earnestly that the leaders of both Hamas and Likud spontaneously transform into beautiful winged unicorns and spend the rest of their days flying throughout the region spreading happiness and sunshine

# ? Nov 18, 2014 21:46

Darth Walrus: Feb 13, 2012

JeffersonClay posted:

How are we knowing this?

Well, there was this little incident.

# ? Nov 18, 2014 22:26

Edgar Quintero: Oct 5, 2004; POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS
DO NOT GIVE HEROIN

loquacius posted:

I too hope earnestly that the leaders of both Hamas and Likud spontaneously transform into beautiful winged unicorns and spend the rest of their days flying throughout the region spreading happiness and sunshine

I hope for things that aren't at all realistic all the time man.

# ? Nov 18, 2014 22:26

StabbinHobo: Oct 18, 2002; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Rent-A-Cop posted:

Whats the difference between an Intifada and the normal cycle of terrorism/retaliatory bombing?

hashtag branding

# ? Nov 18, 2014 22:36

Doflamingo: Sep 20, 2006

The cop who was one of the first responders to the scene died of his wounds a few minutes ago, bringing the death total up to five.

# ? Nov 18, 2014 22:36

Cat Mattress: Jul 14, 2012; by Cyrano4747

So there's this guy who rapes a woman. The woman struggles, and hurts the guy. A policeman arrives on the scene. The guy cuts the woman's hands off, saying he has the rights to defend himself. The policeman agrees with his assessment and turns away. The guy keeps on raping the woman.

# ? Nov 18, 2014 22:55

R. Mute: Jul 27, 2011

Cat Mattress posted:

So there's this guy who rapes a woman. The woman struggles, and hurts the guy. A policeman arrives on the scene. The guy cuts the woman's hands off, saying he has the rights to defend himself. The policeman agrees with his assessment and turns away. The guy keeps on raping the woman.

Yeah this is a good idea for a post.

# ? Nov 18, 2014 22:58

Heavy neutrino: Sep 16, 2007; You made a fine post for yourself. ...For a casualry, I suppose.

I still can't believe Israel's legal system somehow allows the prime minister to bulldoze someone's home as punishment for criminal action

# ? Nov 18, 2014 23:03

GhostofJohnMuir: Aug 14, 2014; anime is not good

Heavy neutrino posted:

I still can't believe Israel's legal system somehow allows the prime minister to bulldoze someone's home as punishment for criminal action

Suspected criminal action.

# ? Nov 18, 2014 23:04

My Imaginary GF: Jul 17, 2005; by R. Guyovich

Cat Mattress posted:

So there's this guy who rapes a woman. The woman struggles, and hurts the guy. A policeman arrives on the scene. The guy cuts the woman's hands off, saying he has the rights to defend himself. The policeman agrees with his assessment and turns away. The guy keeps on raping the woman.

Sharia is pretty hosed up.

# ? Nov 18, 2014 23:06

Pycckuu: Sep 13, 2011; by FactsAreUseless

Cat Mattress posted:

So there's this guy who rapes a woman. The woman struggles, and hurts the guy. A policeman arrives on the scene. The guy cuts the woman's hands off, saying he has the rights to defend himself. The policeman agrees with his assessment and turns away. The guy keeps on raping the woman.

Sharia Law is awful, and I am glad Israel is fighting on the front lines to defend Freedom, Democracy, and the American Way of Life.

# ? Nov 18, 2014 23:16

vintagepurple: Jan 31, 2014; by Nyc_Tattoo

Palestinians are sort of like those estonian SS dudes that fought against the USSR. I don't really agree with their methods but man, what choice do you have? Every option results in your land stolen and your people enslaved or killed, might as well take some of the bastards with you.

EDIT: Let's build a replica Jerusalem in Nevada and settle all of Palestine there.

# ? Nov 18, 2014 23:22

peak debt: Mar 11, 2001; b& :(; Nap Ghost

Heavy neutrino posted:

I still can't believe Israel's legal system somehow allows the prime minister to bulldoze someone's home as punishment for criminal action

I like this one too:

quote:

It implemented a Mandate-era law that forbids the presence of lawyers when questioned, only employed for Israeli-Jews once or twice in Israel�s history according to the lawyer for the victim�s family.

Hmm I wonder what they keep a colonial law on the books for and who they usually use it against :iiam:

# ? Nov 18, 2014 23:22

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

E: wrong guy

CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Nov 18, 2014

# ? Nov 18, 2014 23:26

Heavy neutrino: Sep 16, 2007; You made a fine post for yourself. ...For a casualry, I suppose.

Pycckuu posted:

Sharia Law is awful, and I am glad Israel is fighting on the front lines to defend Freedom, Democracy, and the American Way of Life.

Did the IDF invade Saudi Arabia or what's the deal here

# ? Nov 18, 2014 23:30

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# ? Apr 29, 2024 15:15

My Imaginary GF: Jul 17, 2005; by R. Guyovich

Heavy neutrino posted:

Did the IDF invade Saudi Arabia or what's the deal here

The deal is that Hamas' endorsement of today's synagogue massacre demonstrates the reality of their ambitions: they retain actual genocidal intentions.

Some folks who defend Hamas therefore blame Israel for Hamas' possession of genocidal intent.

# ? Nov 18, 2014 23:35

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