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Galaga Galaxian posted:Yeah, its great for stunning them. I find I can usually get in a quick axe chop between stunning bashes on Stormvermin. Tonight was hilarious. Between your shield and mine, most of the chaff enemies spent more time on their asses than on their feet.
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I hate how there's no action queuing at all to change weapons or use items like goddamn. I have gotten into a panic where I need to pull out a grenade and I am hitting 5 and clicking over and over and over and it's like someone trying to let you into a car and yelling at you to take your hand off the handle and give them a second to click the button but also I'm watching my three friends bleed out and i'm getting stabbed to death while they take their sweet loving time finding the button.
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Nov 1, 2015 08:37
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So there's a hidden achievement for breaking 500 objects  never not be smashing bottles in the inn
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Ayn Randi posted:So there's a hidden achievement for breaking 500 objects I got that one today by just shooting bottles out of boredom for the past week and then finding out the mounted candles in the Red Moon Inn were destructible.
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Nov 1, 2015 08:59
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so what are you peoples go to weapons for characters? Dwarf = Mace + Shield, Handgun Soldier = 2h Mace + handgun Elf = ??? I don't play her Wizard = Ritual Sword + Conflag staff Witch Hunter = 2h sword + crossbow.
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I just had a weird experience where I joined into this guy's game but everyone was dead but the host including me. I was about to skip out but then I said no wait for the xp. But then I noticed the host was dead. And everyone was dead. And I look at myself and I'm below the map. I'm in a hell. I have the you are dying sounds blaring otherworldly in my ears. I have died but I am not allowed to pass on. I do not reincarnate. I am stuck in a hell. My eyes wander upward. Gruber, also dead, pantomimes swinging a baseball bat forever. Kirillian, also dead, mimes a cat from the musical Cats forever. The dwarf host is in a third corner of the map away from the others and is hopping. Hopping up and down forever. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=545898762 He beat the game somehow and I got the dagger/sword combo upgrade I wanted. It was a good wait but I feel like I've lived a thousand years and just wandered out of a hellraiser dimension.
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I got a sword and shield with the killing blow (normal) trait on it, and now the fun has finally begun. 15% chance that while spamming left click, stormvermin mysteriously disappear forever.  Now if only I could get a handgun.
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Nov 1, 2015 09:49
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TipsyMcStagger posted:so what are you peoples go to weapons for characters? Dwarf - Hammer + Shield or 2h Hammer + Handgun Soldier - Mace + Shield or 2h Sword + Handgun Elf - Sword & Dagger + Longbow Wizard - Haven't played enough to get an idea for Witch Hunter - Literally never played Since a goon mentioned earlier that the right click attack on a longbow pierces enemies, I've been using that for hordes and works out quite well. The two-handed hammer for the dwarf is a-mazing and makes me feel like i'm hewing through swathes of skaven right good.
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Nov 1, 2015 10:03
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Dwarf - Axe and shield with either a handgun or drakefire pistols. Soldier - two-handed hammer and repeater handgun (specifically an exotic) or regular handgun. Good with a shield too. Elf - Sword and dagger and longbow. That bow is really the only option. Wizard - Conflagration staff and really any of the melee options. The fire sword is the coolest though. Witch Hunter - Rapier and pistols or crossbow. The two-handed sword is good, but the rapier is unique and rules. Honestly, the soldier with a two-handed hammer and an exotic repeater handgun is my favorite loadout in the entire game. He is a goddamned one man wrecking crew.
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Nov 1, 2015 10:15
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Is conflagration the kind of staff you shouldn't bring to nightmare? I loved my white one, but that's because in normal I could detonate them on top of friends and they don't vote kick me. I just got a blue one so I was wondering if I could put down the bolt cage yet. If it's a huge hassle then I should not get used to it?
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Nov 1, 2015 10:18
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Is conflag the ground effect? Then it's OK for nightmare I think. Same with the beam staff's shotgun blast. No friendly fire for either.
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Nov 1, 2015 10:20
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Oh that's nice. What about the bolt cage's right click spear? I threw it at a gutter runner, but someone else killed it, and I couldn't tell if I hurt that poor witch hunter when he stood up and caught it right in the back. It should have been an absurd amount of damage but he seemed fine.
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Nov 1, 2015 10:29
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Game is fun, I am enjoy. I didn't really click with the bright wizard in the beta but it just feels right at the moment, got a really good handle on heat management and usually manage to top the table (not that it really matters). Also the soldier's two handed weapons are so much fun when you get into the rhythm and pacing of stepping forward/back and timing the swings.
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Krinkle posted:Oh that's nice. What about the bolt cage's right click spear? I threw it at a gutter runner, but someone else killed it, and I couldn't tell if I hurt that poor witch hunter when he stood up and caught it right in the back. It should have been an absurd amount of damage but he seemed fine. Nightmare friendly fire is a mere percentage of the damage you cause. My longbow will do a part of a square of health for example, if I shoot shoot a teammate because they ran in front of me with my bow drawn and actively shooting skaven.  Burn effects though, they will deal more friendly fire because of the innate damage over time effect.
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Nov 1, 2015 10:44
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When you hit a rat in the face with a mace it looks like it really, really hurts
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Nov 1, 2015 11:16
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Player steals and hogs all potions? Check! Player runs off on their own and doesn't help others? Check! Player doesn't pick up tomes or grimoires to help out? Check! Player is an elf: CHECK!!!!
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Nov 1, 2015 11:21
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redweird posted:When you hit a rat in the face with a mace it looks like it really, really hurts That's why i prefer the hammer weapons. They look so surprised!
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Nov 1, 2015 11:30
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Al Borland posted:Player is an elf: CHECK!!!! You didn't verify if they bitched or not if you guys didn't save them from a gutter runner or packmaster.
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Nov 1, 2015 12:09
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I joined a Morr's mid match on Hard and two people were on a domed mausoleum you're not supposed to reach and the third was Marioing his way over. It broke the rats off course. But why bother? It's the crescendo of Morr's that's the tricky part. loving pubbies.
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Nov 1, 2015 12:49
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Yeah, the bar on the weapon indicator is the safe zone. It's helpful when you overheat and switch to melee, because any change means it's safe to switch back and burn rats again. Not that the game mentions you cool down with your sword out, why you have redundant meters, that the second only monitors "safe" heat, the audio cues, or anything else about how BW works...
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Nov 1, 2015 12:49
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Heat works vaguely and dare I say in an arcane way, but yeah basically the indicators mark the position that its safe to vent in, the idea is you either burst, firing a large number of projectiles and than cool down over a long time while swording or you fire a few, than vent for more consistent shooting. or if you don't care to wait you can 'burn' health while venting at unsafe levels and burst like a loving maniac... Really quiets the nerds if you can pull that off without getting downed much.
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All my other weapons are pretty bad to average but the other day I picked up an orange brace of pistols for Witch Hunter with 40% reduced spread and 80% chance to pierce. You can mow down patrols almost single handed if you line em up and wait half a second between shots.
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Brasseye posted:All my other weapons are pretty bad to average but the other day I picked up an orange brace of pistols for Witch Hunter with 40% reduced spread and 80% chance to pierce. You can mow down patrols almost single handed if you line em up and wait half a second between shots. Donnerberg posted:I joined a Morr's mid match on Hard and two people were on a domed mausoleum you're not supposed to reach and the third was Marioing his way over. It broke the rats off course. But why bother? It's the crescendo of Morr's that's the tricky part. loving pubbies. I hope they do more with alt-attack than just the rapier, though. While I like the uniqueness of it, it'd be a shame to waste the keybind/mechanic.
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I'd give anything for the pistol button to shove poo poo with the bright wizards staffs.
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Ravenfood posted:One reason I wouldn't run Morr if I didn't know the group is that the last difficulty spike is basically the end. After you get there with full grims/tomes (which takes a while) you then might just hard wipe in seconds, which can be frustrating. Like someone earlier suggested, a check-pointing system giving you some loot die based on progress would be nifty. Morr's kinda weird in that the finale is honestly quite easy; it's just also the only one that doesn't guarantee health items towards the end of the map. So even more than usual, it's completely up to RNG whether it'll be a total cakewalk or nearly impossible. I kinda appreciate that it does something different, but the big problem with these maps that do things differently or add in some increased difficulty is that they have the exact same rewards as the more consistent, easier levels.
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So, they fixed the exploit where you stand on that one beam on Horn of Magnus..... but now you can stand on the beam on the OTHER side!!! I just had a wiped group where the group leader (elf natch) bitched out a guy for dying off the beam, then died himself trying to rescue the guy, then ragequit while screaming 'gently caress you noob'. You'd think people would at least be willing to roll the dice if they're that close to the end, a couple of lost bonus dice isn't so bad??? edit: quick question - my blue BW Fireball staff seems to have a small penetrate / AoE on the primary attack; is this usual for staffs? The default never seemed to be able to hit more than one enemy at once. immortal flow fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Nov 1, 2015 |
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Nov 1, 2015 14:30
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Stop playing with loving pubbies Bots are better than the mouth breathers running horn.
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Drythe posted:Stop playing with loving pubbies Mind you, bots also occasionally just derp the gently caress out. Gunner in the rear? They might refuse to accompany you forward while completely failing to kill the rat, making you risk charging forward to force them to teleport to you. Snatcher grabbed you? They might get ensnared in the walls or just straight-up go braindead while you choke to death. Vermintide's non-organized group play is a real RNG, just like its loot game.
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Seriously, if they fixed the bots' Ratling Gunner behavior and polished up the pathfinding I would never play with pubbies again.
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Drythe posted:Stop playing with loving pubbies It's the first bad group I've had  and that was just the one guy. Europe is mostly alright it seems.
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Conflag staff is bad staff. Don't use it. I've lucked into a mace that has healing on kill and a 20% chance to vent heat when you hit things. Lately I've been using the beam staff and shotgunning hordes until I'm near overheated, then switching to melee and venting. You just play the BW like kind of a skirmisher - two or three rats run up to you, shove them with the mace, and then either power attack them (which one hit kills clan rats / slave rats, even on nightmare) or shove them back, tap Q and shotgun them. The shotgun clears out hordes hilariously well too. The beam is even OK at killing specials - a second or two of focus on their head and they die. The best thing is that this allows you to play BW reasonably effectively on nightmare, which I haven't figured out how to do otherwise, both because she doesn't do enough damage and because of FF
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terrorist ambulance posted:Conflag staff is bad staff. Don't use it. What in the world are you on about? Conflag is loving killer, it's fireball and bolt that's bad.
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Uhhh, the conflag staff is great on Nightmare. The AoE doesn't hurt allies and sets everything on fire. You need to realize you aren't one shotting things anymore in nightmare, the fire does a gently caress load of damage to a bunch of rats and it causes them to panic and stop attacking you since they are on fire.
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I feel stupid for only now realizing that the Gray Wizard's name is a play on Criss Angel, a famous wizard from our real world.
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Shotgun does one shot things in nightmare. So does other weapons (ie: good two handers for WH or soldier). Conflag does knock things back and set them on fire, but I don't really feel like it does enough for the amount of heat it generates. Especially given that it requires you to stand there winding up to aim your right click, which is an excellent way to lose all your health to getting stabbed in the rear end the entire game
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redweird posted:When you hit a rat in the face with a mace it looks like it really, really hurts Sometimes when you hit rats their body just explodes into paste, god that's satisfying.
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terrorist ambulance posted:Shotgun does one shot things in nightmare. So does other weapons (ie: good two handers for WH or soldier). Conflag does knock things back and set them on fire, but I don't really feel like it does enough for the amount of heat it generates. Especially given that it requires you to stand there winding up to aim your right click, which is an excellent way to lose all your health to getting stabbed in the rear end the entire game You can still dodge around while winding up conflag/fireball.
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terrorist ambulance posted:Shotgun does one shot things in nightmare. So does other weapons (ie: good two handers for WH or soldier). Conflag does knock things back and set them on fire, but I don't really feel like it does enough for the amount of heat it generates. Especially given that it requires you to stand there winding up to aim your right click, which is an excellent way to lose all your health to getting stabbed in the rear end the entire game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP2qCfvhcIE Not dead. Blue Staff on Nightmare.
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