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"I had to go rootin' around in your noggin to pull all the bits of lead out"
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Meridian posted:Hope dude drops some info on how stealth is.
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Nov 1, 2015 20:56
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boneration posted:Can't recall where I read it, but apparently it's more like Skyrim and less like FO3/NV. Never played a stealth character in FO3/NV, so I don't know exactly what that means, but I didn't mind how Skyrim did it. They weren't really that different from what I remember. Likely means it's going to be extremely OP as usual. I'm okay with that.
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Nov 1, 2015 21:00
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There's no way stealth isn't gonna be a broken mess. To be frank though doing something like stealth is hard. I'm still wondering how well the pathing will work when you can build your own settlements. If they can be attacked, I wonder what kind of safeguards (if any) they have against making attacks a non-issue by tripping the AI up on the pathing. There's also still this problem with all Bethesda games that the economy never really worked because money was pointless, this was an especially big problem with skyrim. If you get attacked endlessly that also means endless items. I hope settlements cost upkeep. I don't know about you folks but there's also no way I'm ever gonna pay money for something like an mod. Having new stuff for free on top of the game is a huge incentive for many to actually buy games as opposed to pirating them, if you're gonna have to pay money to unfuck the interface or get some badly textured weapons in - I doubt that'll ever go over well. Even though the gaming community seems to have a stupendous tolerance for bullshit.
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Nov 1, 2015 21:09
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Part of the point of setting up specific areas for settlements is to address stuff like pathing. In stuff like Real Time Settler you had to go by the honor system when you established spawn points and such. Here they can have defined routes of attack and destructible walls to break through.
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Nov 1, 2015 21:13
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This guy on NeoGAF actually has a point lol.  (Fallout 3 vs Fallout 4) 7 years gone - 5 years in development. What have the engine programmers and artists been doing all this time, jacking each other off? If you think graphics aren't that important to your Fallout experience, why not just admit that the game looks last-gen and is visually disappointing to many, but you're still really excited about it? Call a spade a spade.
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Nov 1, 2015 21:18
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Back Hack posted:Went to check, it pretty reserved and reasonable compared to this thread. It's kind of weird, plenty of people saying it will suck, but also people generally hyped for the game. So I guess this thread really is just worse in assuming things about other places.
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Nov 1, 2015 21:18
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That's a problem all of SA has to be fair
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Nov 1, 2015 21:25
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Babe Magnet posted:That's a problem all of SA has to be fair This is the most distinguished and dignified of forums.
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Nov 1, 2015 21:29
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Rockybar posted:Is there gonna be an iPad pip-boy app? Playing on PC so could definitely see having that to the left of my keyboard as I play. My time 5s is probably too small Since nobody else in three pages answered your question, the Pip-Boy ap coming out with the game is intended to be used on any iOS/Andrioid phone or tablet, so your iPad should be just fine. (Assuming the ap works, of course.)
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Nov 1, 2015 21:30
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To be fair back when fallout 3 was announced NMA had people proclaiming it would be poo poo because you couldn't play it 1 handed But I guess the nexus showed them what fools they were 
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Nov 1, 2015 21:30
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multi-source interior lighting was modded fairly quickly into skyrim, just have to hope you can change rendering distances in the config files without breaking the game instantly edit: ^ cheers
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Nov 1, 2015 21:31
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Shugojin posted:To be fair back when fallout 3 was announced NMA had people proclaiming it would be poo poo because you couldn't play it 1 handed nice Rockybar posted:multi-source interior lighting was modded fairly quickly into skyrim, just have to hope you can change rendering distances in the config files without breaking the game instantly I'm definitely gunna be installing some graphics mods down the line, I just hope that the game is well optimised enough that that would even be worthwhile with my OC'd 7870 and i5 2500k...
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Nov 1, 2015 21:33
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I am very sad about the lack of a skill system but still very excited for this game.
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Nov 1, 2015 21:34
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I think the major issue with older gpus is the lack of vram, I think PS4s can use up to 4gigs themselves?
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Nov 1, 2015 21:36
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Apparition posted:I am very sad about the lack of a skill system but still very excited for this game. So what gates off poo poo sans skill system? Just perks? Do we need to take 'lockpicking' 5 times to pick every level of lock? Or have high... perception?
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Nov 1, 2015 21:41
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Mordaedil posted:It's kind of weird, plenty of people saying it will suck, but also people generally hyped for the game. So I guess this thread really is just worse in assuming things about other places. So far I'm liking what I'm hearing about the shooting  Everything else though not so much. Especially the dialogue being seemingly watered down. Kinda expected it, still sucks to hear though.
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Nov 1, 2015 21:42
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Mordaedil posted:It's kind of weird, plenty of people saying it will suck, but also people generally hyped for the game. So I guess this thread really is just worse in assuming things about other places. I'm bummed the speech stuff is apparently bad again and the settlement stuff I have no interest in seems to suck the air out of the game, but I still think I'll end up getting it because my will is weak
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Nov 1, 2015 21:44
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CountFosco posted:I'm currently playing through New Vegas and I'm quite enjoying it... I *just* loving uninstalled. gently caress. PirateBob posted:This guy on NeoGAF actually has a point lol. Yea, by the time Fallout 4 happens at least ~400 years have passed since WW III. All the background, blanket radiation and high altitude fallout would have dissipated by then. Seeing blue skies isn't unrealistic.
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Nov 1, 2015 21:44
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VoLaTiLe posted:Yea it doesnt look like you can actually use it without it being really annoying. Uhhh, what could you possibly use it for anyway?
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Nov 1, 2015 21:45
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Should have gone back to an isometric locked camera with prerendered 2d backgrounds.
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Nov 1, 2015 21:45
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Khanstant posted:Uhhh, what could you possibly use it for anyway? Use it to look cool and get girls, duh. 
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Nov 1, 2015 21:46
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Can I really be a space marine? I think I saw a BoS power armor with a jump pack.
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Nov 1, 2015 21:47
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Speech stuff sucks as in there aren't many speech checks or the dialogue is bad? I tend to not care about dialogue in most cases anyway, I'm playing this to murder folks and collect everything, not to hear npcs feelings.
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Nov 1, 2015 21:49
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PirateBob posted:This guy on NeoGAF actually has a point lol. Because not only do I not think the graphics are that big of a deal, I also don't give a poo poo about conceding a point in an argument only turbospergs care about.
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Nov 1, 2015 21:49
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Asproigerosis posted:Should have gone back to an isometric locked camera with prerendered 2d backgrounds. I have just the game for you: http://store.steampowered.com/app/279640/ The real Fallout 4, released weeks before the pretender to the throne.
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Nov 1, 2015 21:49
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The speech being crap was to be expected the moment they revealed they were doing the dialogue wheel. Though now it's got me thinking back to NV, and most of the dialogue options are white noise exposition about how the person you're talking to feels about the dozen different factions/settlements. Very excited for colour in a fallout game without it being some garish nexus mod that jacks up the saturation 200%.
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Nov 1, 2015 21:50
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Capn Beeb posted:So far I'm liking what I'm hearing about the shooting Honestly, did you play F3 or Skyrim? I fully expected the dialogue to be mostly wooden exposition with the occasional tonally disjointed player quips thrown in, except voiced this time. I'm actually glad to hear the settlements are such a thing, though. I spent a retarded amount of time just deciding wear to place knick-knacks in both my Tenpenny suite and Novac hotel room (and, oddly, the crappy Followers safehouse that I grew attached to for whatever reason), so basing a whole system around my particular brand of gamer autism is a real treat.
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Nov 1, 2015 21:51
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Protons posted:I *just* loving uninstalled. Pretty sure that wasn't the point he was trying to make.
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Nov 1, 2015 21:51
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socialsecurity posted:Pretty sure that wasn't the point he was trying to make. But it'd be funny to see if they actually go the whole nature's returning route only to see another bunch crop up and cry WHERE'S ALL THE NUCLEAR DEVASTATION AND RADIATION?
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Nov 1, 2015 21:56
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PirateBob posted:This guy on NeoGAF actually has a point lol. Is this a fair comparison? I really wish we'd get some high settings screens from a PC.
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Nov 1, 2015 22:00
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Reason posted:Is this a fair comparison? I really wish we'd get some high settings screens from a PC. There is absolutely zero chance of getting PC screen for a non-Bethesda source before release. We'll have to make do with lovely, compressed jpgs from Spaniards.
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Nov 1, 2015 22:01
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Mediocre graphics, terrible writing and quest design, and good exploration and gunplay are what I would've written on a card and sealed in an envelope when this announced, so none of the leaks are really surprising so far. It's good news that a lot of the shots were in the flat pipboy light (also, why can't they get that right? there are indie games that manage believable mobile lightsources) and it isn't going to be unplayably ugly, just normal Bethesda ugly.
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Nov 1, 2015 22:05
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that spanish dude is finally talking about the loving perks. its reddit but gently caress it, it's all we got right now. luck 5 confirmed. https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/comments/3r3rgv/spoilers_new_info_about_the_game_live_update/ theres a loving perk to turn you into a ghoul but you dont become a ghoul on the outside, just the inside. :|
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Nov 1, 2015 22:06
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Wolfsheim posted:Honestly, did you play F3 or Skyrim? I fully expected the dialogue to be mostly wooden exposition with the occasional tonally disjointed player quips thrown in, except voiced this time. Yep. I knew what to expect when I saw the lead writer for Fallout 4 was the lead writer on Fallout 3 and Skyrim. The change to how dialogue is handled now only seems to be making it worse.
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Nov 1, 2015 22:08
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Vikar Jerome posted:that spanish dude is finally talking about the loving perks. What?
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Nov 1, 2015 22:12
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Vikar Jerome posted:
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Nov 1, 2015 22:12
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Vikar Jerome posted:that spanish dude is finally talking about the loving perks. radiation weapons??
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Nov 1, 2015 22:14
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Crabtree posted:What? you get healed by radiation but you still look human
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Crabtree posted:What? a ghoul perk for endurance 9 "Ghoul: "Of course, you are still human...Externally! Now radiation regenerates health." kinda weird they dont let you turn your face into a ghoul but i suspect that will get modded sooner or later (unless it's due to PLOT REASONS)
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