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Sono posted:Trump starts bragging about the bodies he's had his mafia buddies bury in the foundations of his buildings. I don't know if he can stand up to Fiorina and Graham in terms of how many people he's willing to kill. Mister Trump, will you nuke the entire world?
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Vegetable posted:"I hope you enjoy reading about medical liability tort reform, because it was one of my top priorities for 2003" thats a classic gampy sr zinger
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so, uh, the RNC losing control of both candidates and media outlets is potentially devastating
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It's hard to imagine that GW was the 'smart' son but here we are.
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AfroLine posted:gently caress Jeb Bush and Mike Huckabee. Not even with Cruz's dick.
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Skellybones posted:It's hard to imagine that GW was the 'smart' son but here we are. tbh it was neil
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Aliquid posted:so, uh, the RNC losing control of both candidates and media outlets is potentially devastating This is going to be a brokered convention for the ages, isn't it
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Skellybones posted:It's hard to imagine that GW was the 'smart' son but here we are. I just watched a portion of GWB's 1994 governor debates in response to your post and he was railing hardcore on raising state funding for public education and making it the #1 priority for the state budget. That's something you'll never hear from a GOP candidate again.
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Mitt Romney posted:I just watched a portion of GWB's 1994 governor debates in response to your post and he was railing hardcore on raising state funding for public education and making it the #1 priority for the state budget. That's something you'll never hear from a GOP candidate again. Jeb! is saying he's "conflicted" on the death penalty and wants reform. What CNN actually means by that term is that Jeb! wants to deny due process rights to death row prisoners, whining about how it takes too long for the state to kill prisoners.
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Aliquid posted:so, uh, the RNC losing control of both candidates and media outlets is potentially devastating has their tantrum succeeded in getting the networks to do whatever they want?
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At this point the only candidate with any pull with the networks is Donald Trump. Everyone knows it including Jeb who got his Telemundo request denied by the Donald.
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Do Not Resuscitate posted:This book will surely rescue iJeb!'s campaign. Lol this is too good to be true.
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Fifty Shades of Medical Tort Reform
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"I love Supergirl, I'd kill for her, I'd go to prison for her" -Jeb
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What amazes me more about this cutting out of the RNC is that the other candidates would ever cooperate with Trump to stick it to their own party - I mean, I could see Carson and Cruz going along with some outsider's rebellion thing, but what are the C-listers and even the Establishment reps doing handing Trump a gift-wrapped win? It's too late for them to play the outsider card and pushing away the RNC just puts them all onto Trump's turf of anything-goes zaniness. The best I can figure is the only thing scarier than siding with Trump on the debate format is siding against him and losing when the networks are more interested in carrying the rebel debate than the sanctioned one. I think we might have to admit that Trump may actually be a pretty good negotiator. He may not be diplomatic, but he's playing these guys like a goddamn fiddle.
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Dolash posted:What amazes me more about this cutting out of the RNC is that the other candidates would ever cooperate with Trump to stick it to their own party - I mean, I could see Carson and Cruz going along with some outsider's rebellion thing, but what are the C-listers and even the Establishment reps doing handing Trump a gift-wrapped win? It's too late for them to play the outsider card and pushing away the RNC just puts them all onto Trump's turf of anything-goes zaniness. The best I can figure is the only thing scarier than siding with Trump on the debate format is siding against him and losing when the networks are more interested in carrying the rebel debate than the sanctioned one. They are all still basically operating under the delusion that if they go along with Trump they can write a narrative where the establishment got taught a lesson but now it's time to get serious. It's a ridiculous narrative that relies on Trump and even Carson's base waking up and going along with the "electability" narrative without any regard for the fact that Trump is actually factually the most electable, but it's the only narrative left to them at this point. I almost feel bad for them, but then my inner Donald realizes that they betrayed us, and that our one weakness unfortunately requires that we never forgive them. RIP in peace GOP establishment 1981-2015
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AfroLine posted:gently caress Jeb Bush and Mike Huckabee. More like: Jeb Douche and Mike Fuckabee.
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Phlegmish posted:More like: Jeb Douche and Mike Fuckabee. Your wit is so barbed that I think perhaps you should retire lest you embarrass those of us less talented than you. Not since the days of "Barack Osama" has the nation seen such acerbic wit as you let loose in calling Mr. Huckabee "Mike Fuckabee", a visage of satire so sharp you have made Jonathan Swift look like Jonathan Sloth. Please, never stop posting, and never stop believing. EDIT: Preempting your laughter in that I did not get "your epic leTroll" as if shitposting is somehow OK because you're pretending to be Smoothrich
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Oiled and Ready posted:Your wit is so barbed that I think perhaps you should retire lest you embarrass those of us less talented than you. Not since the days of "Barack Osama" has the nation seen such acerbic wit as you let loose in calling Mr. Huckabee "Mike Fuckabee", a visage of satire so sharp you have made Jonathan Swift look like Jonathan Sloth. Please, never stop posting, and never stop believing. u mad bro
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No I'm not mad is only game
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FAUXTON posted:Jeb! is saying he's "conflicted" on the death penalty and wants reform. Oh man that's ghastly
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Oiled and Ready posted:Your wit is so barbed that I think perhaps you should retire lest you embarrass those of us less talented than you. Not since the days of "Barack Osama" has the nation seen such acerbic wit as you let loose in calling Mr. Huckabee "Mike Fuckabee", a visage of satire so sharp you have made Jonathan Swift look like Jonathan Sloth. Please, never stop posting, and never stop believing. shut up
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Barracuda Bang! posted:shut up K
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Baloogan posted:you are trying waaaaay too hard to be funny. Agreed perhaps my need for validation has gotten to the point that I'm just being a nuisance but... Well no I don't have any other counterpoint
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Oiled and Ready posted:Agreed perhaps my need for validation has gotten to the point that I'm just being a nuisance but... Well no I don't have any other counterpoint go to sleep oli, the internet will still be around when you wake up.
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Baloogan posted:go to sleep oli, the internet will still be around when you wake up. When the internet tells you you're too drunk and it's time to sleep, it's time Oiled and Ready fucked around with this message at 13:15 on Nov 2, 2015 |
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Dolash posted:What amazes me more about this cutting out of the RNC is that the other candidates would ever cooperate with Trump to stick it to their own party - I mean, I could see Carson and Cruz going along with some outsider's rebellion thing, but what are the C-listers and even the Establishment reps doing handing Trump a gift-wrapped win? It's too late for them to play the outsider card and pushing away the RNC just puts them all onto Trump's turf of anything-goes zaniness. The best I can figure is the only thing scarier than siding with Trump on the debate format is siding against him and losing when the networks are more interested in carrying the rebel debate than the sanctioned one. He's doing well but the thought of him doing this with guys who have military arsenals and national economies is their hands is a little alarming.
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Dolash posted:What amazes me more about this cutting out of the RNC is that the other candidates would ever cooperate with Trump to stick it to their own party - I mean, I could see Carson and Cruz going along with some outsider's rebellion thing, but what are the C-listers and even the Establishment reps doing handing Trump a gift-wrapped win? It's too late for them to play the outsider card and pushing away the RNC just puts them all onto Trump's turf of anything-goes zaniness. The best I can figure is the only thing scarier than siding with Trump on the debate format is siding against him and losing when the networks are more interested in carrying the rebel debate than the sanctioned one. Easy to be a good negotiator when you're always in a position of strength. The RNC worked itself into this position by pandering for years to what is now Trump's base.
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Dolash posted:What amazes me more about this cutting out of the RNC is that the other candidates would ever cooperate with Trump to stick it to their own party - I mean, I could see Carson and Cruz going along with some outsider's rebellion thing, but what are the C-listers and even the Establishment reps doing handing Trump a gift-wrapped win? It's too late for them to play the outsider card and pushing away the RNC just puts them all onto Trump's turf of anything-goes zaniness. The best I can figure is the only thing scarier than siding with Trump on the debate format is siding against him and losing when the networks are more interested in carrying the rebel debate than the sanctioned one. These negotiations are good for everyone except Trump. If you're one of the C-list candidates, anything is going to be an improvement over what you've got now. One of the demands is apparently equal time for each person on stage. Rand Paul and John Kasich are going to benefit from that a lot more than Trump and Carson. There's talk of either having a debate will all 15 candidates or mixing-and-matching, which benefits Graham and Santorum. The only person losing by doing this is Trump because he does best when he can complain about the media and he won't be able to do that as effectively if he's the one making the rules.
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Joementum posted:These negotiations are good for everyone except Trump. also they are bad for the entire RNC
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Dragging the C-list into the debates keeps them a clusterfuck for as long as possible and helps Trump address criticisms that he doesn't seem presidential by dragging the Establishment candidates down to his level. I think he's balancing the odds of a C-lister landing a lucky shot against him vs. the odds that he has an even easier time slam dunking on them.
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Joementum posted:These negotiations are good for everyone except Trump. If you're one of the C-list candidates, anything is going to be an improvement over what you've got now. One of the demands is apparently equal time for each person on stage. Rand Paul and John Kasich are going to benefit from that a lot more than Trump and Carson. There's talk of either having a debate will all 15 candidates or mixing-and-matching, which benefits Graham and Santorum. The only person losing by doing this is Trump because he does best when he can complain about the media and he won't be able to do that as effectively if he's the one making the rules. The "win" over the RNC overshadows any potential debate benefit Trump might get. Does anyone actually believe that the equal time clause is actually going to be followed? When did Republican candidates ever give a gently caress about debate rules? You're kidding yourself if you think everyone's just going to magically play nice after new rules are set. I mean come on, Trump has a permanent media presence and will be known as the architect of this deal. He wins by a longshot.
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Carrot Top/Gallagher style prop comedy would be awesome. Either that or Rubio showing up to the debate wearing the Sword of Chang in a fancy jewelled scabbard. He nods knowingly at Jeb but never says a word about the sword all night.
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Joementum posted:These negotiations are good for everyone except Trump. If you're one of the C-list candidates, anything is going to be an improvement over what you've got now. One of the demands is apparently equal time for each person on stage. Rand Paul and John Kasich are going to benefit from that a lot more than Trump and Carson. There's talk of either having a debate will all 15 candidates or mixing-and-matching, which benefits Graham and Santorum. The only person losing by doing this is Trump because he does best when he can complain about the media and he won't be able to do that as effectively if he's the one making the rules. I don't think that represents the whole picture. The RNC, which has committed itself to his destruction, has just been cut out of negotiations along with Telemundo. Trump benefits so long as there is chaos in the party that he can take advantage of. It doesn't matter if a consensus is reached or not. If the clown car can't agree to terms, then Trump gets to look presidential and cut a deal with Carson (possibly Rubio as well) then negotiate terms for the front runners (with the others either agreeing or getting cut out). If there is consensus for a bunch of absurd terms, the GOP lineup will continue to look ridiculous (making Trump look good by comparison) and the media won't be able to hold up their end of the bargain (equal time, no interruptions, easy questions, etc... are all made to be broken), so Trump will have plenty to complain about. As a bonus, this could allow him to stage a second revolt against the media and cut down on the number of debates even further, which is a big win for him. ElrondHubbard fucked around with this message at 13:50 on Nov 2, 2015 |
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For the next debate I'd like to see each podium equipped with a realtime timer showing how long each idiot has talked for.
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So far the debates have been more of a risk than a benefit for Trump and Carson. With their combined ~50% polling, they benefit from making the debates even more of a clown car mess. If there are 15 bozos up there no individual will have enough screen time to get a knockout performance and challenge them effectively.
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