Fallout 4: Power Armored Garbage Farmers

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frajaq: Jan 30, 2009; #acolyte GM of 2014

Meowbot posted:

back in 1994 before a lot of people were born I played a little game called "Daggerfall" this demo came out on a "PC Gamer" CD disc (bundled with the magazine, a sick 150ish page conglomeration of bad rear end images, stories, and information that would make the 2015 internet blush!)...

It was probably in the fall or maybe it was Christmas, but I still remember the hours upon hours I would pour into this world. It was HUGE. The size of daggerfall was unreal and even in the demo you could explore a massive chunk of it. The purpose and content of the demo was pretty limited but it was all procedurally generated (before that word even existed perhaps?) and you could do so much like kill all the guards, kill all the civilians, get caught by guards, be in jail (I think you could be in jail?). You could be an archer and sneak on top of houses, kill people while they slept, kill guards from the rooftops. Running on top of houses in 1994 killing people? Umm, the best RPG ever.

This game was loving awesome. I still have memories of looking out the window and seeing snow on the ground and sun shine as I tromped through this world finding bears, elves, sometimes dead civilians and thugs all over the place. I still have NO idea what I ever accomplished but I remember this was m y favorite demo when I was younger.

What the gently caress happened Bethesda?

I just miss demos :smith:

# ? Nov 3, 2015 07:32

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# ? May 24, 2024 08:06

widespread: Aug 5, 2013; I believe I am now no longer in the presence of nice people.

NecroMonster posted:

there are perks that will let you stay drunk and stoned 100% of the time forever in this game as you shuffle from place to place stuffing everything you can see into your pockets but i guess if the game isn't photo-realistic who cares

This just makes me want Better Living Thru Chems in Fallout 4. Just imagine, being so loving high on everything, you feel like you're in a different game

# ? Nov 3, 2015 07:32

Effectronica: May 31, 2011; Fallen Rib

Fergus posted:

You got a problem, ese!?

No, you're right. We should be thinking about how Bethesda could have committed hara-kiri instead of making Fallout 4.

# ? Nov 3, 2015 07:36

Republicans: Oct 14, 2003; - More money for us

- Fuck you

frajaq posted:

I just miss demos

They still exist, only they are are called betas and are only available for a brief time.

Kinda like how cheat codes are now microtransactions.

# ? Nov 3, 2015 07:37

Fergus: Apr 24, 2013

Effectronica posted:

No, you're right. We should be thinking about how Bethesda could have committed hara-kiri instead of making Fallout 4.

Well it's not too late for them to do it :thumbsup:

# ? Nov 3, 2015 07:40

Borsche69: May 8, 2014

Deutsch Nozzle posted:

oh no i spent some of my disposable income on a luxury product and with only scraps of information ive decided that the product is complete and utter trash and i want my money back!!!!

*drops 200 bucks on a tf2 hat without a second thought*

What's wrong with wanting your money back if you don't like something?

# ? Nov 3, 2015 07:41

MoaM: Dec 1, 2009; Joyous.

The people in that hypothetical have not physically attempted to like the thing yet. RIP Demos.

# ? Nov 3, 2015 07:42

Effectronica: May 31, 2011; Fallen Rib

MoaM posted:

The people in that hypothetical have not physically attempted to like the thing yet. RIP Demos.

*face distorts like I'm lifting 350 lbs. with each foot and 400 with each hand* Just... a... little more... and I'll like Elder Scrolls Online...

# ? Nov 3, 2015 07:45

Phil Tenderpuss: Jun 11, 2012

MoaM posted:

The people in that hypothetical have not physically attempted to like the thing yet. RIP Demos.

They think they won't like it based on the information they now have. I don't see the issue.

# ? Nov 3, 2015 07:46

Cream-of-Plenty: Apr 21, 2010; "The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."

SplitSoul posted:

I'd be fine with Dogmeat plummeting to the ground from high places if he immediately ragdolled and yelped the whole way down.

Edit: Somebody mod in the Goofy holler.

Fallout 4's Mo Cap Technology Promises Advanced Animations

quote:

...but long-time fans will be the first to admit that Bethesda's reputation for quality animations has been historically lacking. And yet the "Mo Cap" technology seeks to break this reputation, "reducing skeletal animations to their most basic components and re-smelting them into solid gold" as Fallout 4's chief animator put it.

"We've been working closer than ever with other parts of the development team [on Fallout 4]. It used to be that we'd receive compiled models to animate without a full understanding of how they would be used--you'd just show up in the morning and start rigging skeletons based on how you thought they looked. Recently, though, a lot of the systems have been working in concert.

"For instance, we used an actual dog for Dogmeat's animations...but when he wouldn't cooperate with the Mo Cap system, Todd insisted that we 'just roll with it' and give the scripting pod whatever we ended up with. 'It's more realistic if the dog actually acts like an animal.' So the dog ran around the studio for an hour and we passed the entire capture file on to the other team. They ended up programming the character's AI based on these animations, which is why people have been commenting that the dog has such an amazing personality and is incredibly realistic."

# ? Nov 3, 2015 07:50

Farm Frenzy: Jan 3, 2007

MoaM posted:

The people in that hypothetical have not physically attempted to like the thing yet. RIP Demos.

i didnt know you had to attempt to like something to like it

# ? Nov 3, 2015 07:50

frajaq: Jan 30, 2009; #acolyte GM of 2014

Effectronica posted:

*face distorts like I'm lifting 350 lbs. with each foot and 400 with each hand* Just... a... little more... and I'll like Elder Scrolls Online...

tbh if it was F2P I would probably be playing it

# ? Nov 3, 2015 07:50

frajaq: Jan 30, 2009; #acolyte GM of 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibL32QiVsDs

flamethrower action!

frajaq fucked around with this message at 07:58 on Nov 3, 2015

# ? Nov 3, 2015 07:52

Phil Tenderpuss: Jun 11, 2012

If I blindly bought a product that didn't exist yet and then eventually saw it in its finished state and really didn't like what I saw, I'd try to get my money back. But apparently that's a laughable opinion and I should just buy the Product and force myself to try and like it regardless.

# ? Nov 3, 2015 07:53

Seashell Salesman: Aug 4, 2005; Holy wow! That "Literally A Person" sure is a cool and good poster. He's smart and witty and he smells like a pure mountain stream. I posted in his thread and I got a FANCY NEW AVATAR!!!!

Has anyone been able to ascertain from leaks whether there are non-saved-up criticals and/or sneak criticals in the game?

# ? Nov 3, 2015 07:55

Phil Tenderpuss: Jun 11, 2012

frajaq posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibL32QiVsDs

flamethrower action!

sound bugs!

Awesome! The endless ghoul filled metro tunnels were my favorite part about Fallout 3. Glad Bethesda listened to its fans and brought it back.

# ? Nov 3, 2015 07:57

widespread: Aug 5, 2013; I believe I am now no longer in the presence of nice people.

Phil Tenderpuss posted:

Awesome! The endless ghoul filled metro tunnels were my favorite part about Fallout 3. Glad Bethesda listened to its fans and brought it back.

SPEAKING OF GHOULS, fuckin' Brotherhood of Steel now hates ghouls for reasons unknown.

# ? Nov 3, 2015 08:00

frajaq: Jan 30, 2009; #acolyte GM of 2014

huh

# ? Nov 3, 2015 08:00

Phil Tenderpuss: Jun 11, 2012

widespread posted:

SPEAKING OF GHOULS, fuckin' Brotherhood of Steel now hates ghouls for reasons unknown.

Because they're just generic bad guys now.

# ? Nov 3, 2015 08:02

Seashell Salesman: Aug 4, 2005; Holy wow! That "Literally A Person" sure is a cool and good poster. He's smart and witty and he smells like a pure mountain stream. I posted in his thread and I got a FANCY NEW AVATAR!!!!

frajaq posted:

huh

There's another loading screen that helpfully informs you people use bottlecaps for currency in the post apocalyptic future. Who knew!

# ? Nov 3, 2015 08:02

Happy_Misanthrope: Aug 3, 2007; "I wanted to kill you, go to your funeral, and anyone who showed up to mourn you, I wanted to kill them too."

GreenBuckanneer posted:

That's a CGI video though, lmao

boy I pet that poster is embarrassed!

# ? Nov 3, 2015 08:03

Effectronica: May 31, 2011; Fallen Rib

frajaq posted:

huh

Yes! Yessssss! Thank Jesus, "radiation weapons" was as dumb as I was expecting!

# ? Nov 3, 2015 08:04

Magmarashi: May 20, 2009

widespread posted:

SPEAKING OF GHOULS, fuckin' Brotherhood of Steel now hates ghouls for reasons unknown.

I'm pretty sure the West Coast BoS had a hate-boner for Mutants and Ghouls, too

# ? Nov 3, 2015 08:05

Old Story: Jun 2, 2006; Oven Wrangler

frajaq posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibL32QiVsDs

flamethrower action!

The lifeless fuckin' faces man. Dead-eyed stares and mumbling mouths. They had years to quietly work on this. How does this happen?

# ? Nov 3, 2015 08:05

widespread: Aug 5, 2013; I believe I am now no longer in the presence of nice people.

Magmarashi posted:

I'm pretty sure the West Coast BoS had a hate-boner for Mutants and Ghouls, too

Yeah, but they had a boner for places ghouls were in. Plus they had the Master to deal with.

The gently caress did the East Coast BoS have that ghouls had first.

# ? Nov 3, 2015 08:07

Random Asshole: Nov 8, 2010

frajaq posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibL32QiVsDs

flamethrower action!

Love that guys dead-eyed stare. I'm pretty excited to see how bad faces can get, seeing as each revealed one is worse then the last.

# ? Nov 3, 2015 08:08

Xenoid: Dec 9, 2006

NecroMonster posted:

there are perks that will let you stay drunk and stoned 100% of the time forever in this game as you shuffle from place to place stuffing everything you can see into your pockets but i guess if the game isn't photo-realistic who cares

This is fantastic actually. Could role play as a Hunter S or Rick Sanchez.

# ? Nov 3, 2015 08:12

Phil Tenderpuss: Jun 11, 2012

So let me get this straight: every time you get experience now, including every time something dies, it makes a CHA-CHING sound? lol.

# ? Nov 3, 2015 08:12

Yaos: Feb 22, 2003; She is a cat of significant gravy.

It's hilarious, the game just keeps looking better and better and goons pretend it's poo poo. Maybe you guys would like The Order: 1886, that's a lovely game so you would love that.

Phil Tenderpuss posted:

So let me get this straight: every time you get experience now, including every time something dies, it makes a CHA-CHING sound? lol.

That's how it worked in Fallout 3 and New Vegas.

# ? Nov 3, 2015 08:13

Rinkles: Oct 24, 2010; What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

Yaos posted:

That's how it worked in Fallout 3 and New Vegas. You would know that if you actually played them.

Nope

# ? Nov 3, 2015 08:16

Old Story: Jun 2, 2006; Oven Wrangler

Yaos posted:

It's hilarious, the game just keeps looking better and better and goons pretend it's poo poo.

I want to see the stuff you're looking at, because all the leaked footage looks pretty disappointing to me

# ? Nov 3, 2015 08:16

Phil Tenderpuss: Jun 11, 2012

Yaos posted:

That's how it worked in Fallout 3 and New Vegas.

That is most definitely not how it worked in New Vegas. Also nice edit.

# ? Nov 3, 2015 08:17

Pwnstar: Dec 9, 2007; Who wants some waffles?

The voice acting in that clip isnt one of the 3 standard Bethesda guys so yay for that. Also the Brotherhood didn't like ghouls in Fallout 3 either, the ghoul outside Underworld complains that the Brotherhood takes potshots at them while going after Super Mutants because they think they are the same thing.

# ? Nov 3, 2015 08:17

Effectronica: May 31, 2011; Fallen Rib

I actually can't believe they're going to have three categories of interchangeable weapons, including one that will be so goddamn stupid it'll make the plot look smart. I'm refusing to acknowledge it.

# ? Nov 3, 2015 08:18

Yaos: Feb 22, 2003; She is a cat of significant gravy.

Another leaked picture for you guys to enjoy. This time it's the garage.

Effectronica posted:

I actually can't believe they're going to have three categories of interchangeable weapons, including one that will be so goddamn stupid it'll make the plot look smart. I'm refusing to acknowledge it.

Why do you hate good ideas so much?

# ? Nov 3, 2015 08:20

Qmass: Jun 3, 2003

hah, no fucken way

# ? Nov 3, 2015 08:21

Noyemi K: Dec 9, 2012; youll always be so sleepy when youre this tiny *plompf*

Rinkles posted:

Nope

It did, but only at the conclusion of an encounter/mission or when a locale was discovered.

# ? Nov 3, 2015 08:21

ants on my cum rag: Sep 2, 2011; "Oh God you got the spray gun, DO NOT LOSE IT, you seriously better not screw this up, I'm not kidding"
~~The Battle Hymn of the Contra Tiger Mother~~

So they didn't spend the money on graphics, animation, story. What did they spend it on? Millions of bucks so Todd can come into a meeting going "hey i thought we could put a scope on a pistol" and his disheartened employees politely clap.

# ? Nov 3, 2015 08:22

Farm Frenzy: Jan 3, 2007

Yaos posted:

It's hilarious, the game just keeps looking better and better and goons pretend it's poo poo. Maybe you guys would like The Order: 1886, that's a lovely game so you would love that.

That's how it worked in Fallout 3 and New Vegas.

you, forums poster yaos, have hair growing out of the tip of your penis

# ? Nov 3, 2015 08:22

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# ? May 24, 2024 08:06

Seashell Salesman: Aug 4, 2005; Holy wow! That "Literally A Person" sure is a cool and good poster. He's smart and witty and he smells like a pure mountain stream. I posted in his thread and I got a FANCY NEW AVATAR!!!!

Okay so after re-reading the SPECIAL descriptions I'm pretty sure there are no criticals outside of VATS, nor random ones. The Luck description pretty explicitly says it just fills your 'crit bar' faster, and AFAIK this bar can only be used in side VATS.

# ? Nov 3, 2015 08:23

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