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Nail Rat posted:That would be part of seeding, and yes, that's exactly what I think should happen. The NBA's done the same thing just recently, and their divisions are larger than the NFL's. In the NBA, the only thing that matters is your total record and what conference you're in, I thought... it's nothing at all like the NFL, and it would be better to compare the NFL to MLB playoff seeding.
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Chilichimp posted:In the NBA, the only thing that matters is your total record and what conference you're in, I thought... it's nothing at all like the NFL, and it would be better to compare the NFL to MLB playoff seeding. That's not 100% accurate, until this year (last year?) winning your division guaranteed you a top 4 seed in the NBA.
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computer parts posted:I thought they were thinking of changing the hosting rules, so the division leader still gets in but if the Wildcard team had a better record then they'd host it. Make the WC team host if they have a two game lead or better, done and dusted.
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Nov 3, 2015 15:56
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No, it's perfect as is. If you're such an amazing wild card team, stroll into bad team's stadium and end them. If you can't, then you weren't even the best team of the four in your division. It is you who are the bad team.
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Nov 3, 2015 15:58
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Kalli posted:No, it's perfect as is. If you're such an amazing wild card team, stroll into bad team's stadium and end them. Maybe the #1 seed should be on the road the whole way then, to prove how awesome they really are.
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Nail Rat posted:Maybe the #1 seed should be on the road the whole way then, to prove how awesome they really are. If there was a team worthy of hosting the #1 seed, then I'd agree! But when you're down to some 11 win wildcard team that lost its division by two games and a 9 win 4th seed who climbed to the top of cripple-mountain, then let them battle there on that mountain of cripples or something. I lost wherever I was going with this.
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Kalli posted:No, it's perfect as is. If you're such an amazing wild card team, stroll into bad team's stadium and end them. 
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I just realized I'm arguing for a home playoff game for the Colts, so you know what, go ahead and change it.
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Kalli posted:If there was a team worthy of hosting the #1 seed, then I'd agree! But when you're down to some 11 win wildcard team that lost its division by two games and a 9 win 4th seed who climbed to the top of cripple-mountain, then let them battle there on that mountain of cripples or something. I lost wherever I was going with this. If it was a 9 win 4th seed, I'd agree. But an 11 win wildcard team being hosted by a 6 or 7 win division champion? First of all, it's ridiculous in a league where random lovely teams beat good teams all the time and home field is such a big deal. Secondly, it never happened before 2002, because the playoff system was designed for 3 wild cards, one of whom was hosting a game, and almost all the divisions were 5 teams. Now losing teams have hosted like 3 times in a decade. It's kind of silly. And I say this as a fan of a team who will benefit from this this year. Although the AFC probably won't produce a 11 win wild card this time.
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Kalli posted:No, it's perfect as is. If you're such an amazing wild card team, stroll into bad team's stadium and end them. Yeah, I agree. As a fan of a team that shares a division with the Patriots and has sole possession of the NFL's longest playoff drought, the NFL playoffs and their seedings are perfect. Sometimes you get divisions like the AFC South. Sometimes you lose a game because your dumbass kickoff returner decided to run a ball out of the back of the end zone and ends up fumbling to your opponent. Football is fun because stupid poo poo happens all the time.
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Nov 3, 2015 16:09
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Nail Rat posted:That's not 100% accurate, until this year (last year?) winning your division guaranteed you a top 4 seed in the NBA. Ah. Thanks for that.
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Nov 3, 2015 16:16
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Do away with all conference and division separations. Top twelve teams move on. don't do this
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Ravens-Steelers Browns-Steelers Broncos-Chargers Broncos-Raiders Giants-Cowboys Giants-Eagles Eagles-Cowboys Washington-Cowboys Packers-Bears Packers-Vikings Seahawks-49ers The divisional playoff spot is what fuels the best rivalries in the game. Desperately hating another team is like half the NFL fan experience.
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SlipUp posted:Ravens-Steelers EHEM! Falcons-Saints, bitch.
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SlipUp posted:The divisional playoff spot is what fuels the best rivalries in the game. Desperately hating another team is like half the NFL fan experience. You'd still have that if the division winner got in, but was hosted by the wild card if they had a losing record (since there's no way in hell two losing teams would make it from the same division). Also  at Browns-Steelers being listed due to the division playoff spot. I don't think it's really much of an issue for the 1999-on browns so far.
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My dad always considered the Raiders the Steelers #1 rival 
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:My dad always considered the Raiders the Steelers #1 rival Nah, the Raiders one true rival is Everyone Else in the AFCW. (Mainly the Broncos though)
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I thought it was the Patriots because of that thing that one time.
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I wasn't alive for the 70s, but apparently Steelers/Raiders was a big deal
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Remember when Steelers/Browns wasn't a one sided boat race
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:I wasn't alive for the 70s, but apparently Steelers/Raiders was a big deal I've heard it was huge, especially down to the Immaculate Reception. Shame it's went away just because the Raiders were garbage for so long. I like the Raiders/Chargers rivalry because it's both a division rivalry (which are always the best) and a state rivalry.
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I'm just happy people are finally talking about the Panthers I feel like Charlotte and the rest of the Carolinas has finally Of course, winning helps a lot too.
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:I've heard it was huge, especially down to the Immaculate Reception. Shame it's went away just because the Raiders were garbage for so long. It could be a stadium rivalry soon! 
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Ross Angeles posted:Remember when Steelers/Browns wasn't a one sided boat race When the Browns were the Ravens.
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Chilichimp posted:EHEM! Falcons-Saints, bitch. This.
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Nov 3, 2015 16:52
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timp posted:I'm just happy people are finally talking about the Panthers Maybe it's because you're not allowed to stand up or take your shirt off in the stadium. Lame gameday experience.
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Nov 3, 2015 16:53
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Ross Angeles posted:It could be a stadium rivalry soon! Will be especially rad if they're allowed to do colour-on-colour games. Or if the Chargers wear their alternate jerseys. Black and silver vs the powder blue would be the best-looking game in the NFL 
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Despite being totally inept for my entire adult life, the Browns/Steelers head to head series is at 66-58. Just an 8 game lead for the Steelers
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Beat writers saying Luck looked absolutely defeated after the game and barely talked in the locker room Congrats on breaking him, Indy
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Chris James 2 posted:Beat writers saying Luck looked absolutely defeated after the game and barely talked in the locker room He's clearly a bust and should be traded immediately to the jets.
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Chris James 2 posted:Beat writers saying Luck looked absolutely defeated after the game and barely talked in the locker room Time to trade for Manziel.
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That Works posted:This. Remember when it was a rivalry to see who was the shittiest team and not to see who was going to the play-offs? Good times.
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Chilichimp posted:Remember when it was a rivalry to see who was the shittiest team and not to see who was going to the play-offs? This is one of those fun years where it could be either one in a couple of weeks!
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Chris James 2 posted:Beat writers saying Luck looked absolutely defeated after the game and barely talked in the locker room Dude played his heart out and probably blames himself for the loss because of the last INT. Maybe this week they will go no huddle more and let him call adjustments at the line since that's how they got back into it. Too bad Hilton didn't step up to make any tough catches, he had his hands on some passes that he needed to pull down to help the team.
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timp posted:I'm just happy people are finally talking about the Panthers It's hard when you're a small market team in a city with a million transplants and also have only been around 20 years (so there are still a lot of natives who are Redskins/Falcons fans). The Bobcats had the same problem, though there were many, many complications on top of that. I agree that it feels great to see the Panthers supported like this (along with the Hornets being back in their rightful place and experiencing a similar boost). e: In light of what I just posted, I gotta say I've always found it funny just how many Panthers fans seem to be on TFF. It's been like that for years, too, so it's not like the floodgates opened when the team got better. RumbleFish fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Nov 3, 2015 |
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Hot take: The Panthers are Cool and Good.
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:Hot take: The Panthers are Cool and Good. Agreed. That take is hot. Too hot for this forum. Leave.
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Chris James 2 posted:Beat writers saying Luck looked absolutely defeated after the game and barely talked in the locker room 
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:Hot take: The Panthers are Cool and Good. More like poo poo take. There have always been a pretty big number of Panthers fans here though it seems. Probably more than Saints fans. We've tended to stay pretty constant at least. Atlanta fans have had some notable... departures.
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PFT finally came up with a good term for the phenomenon that most teams are really bad after they lost to the Patriots: "post-Pats-partum depression"
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