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Brannock posted:It's still absolutely baffling that Harper actually did away with the goddamn census. But it's not as important as the most fascinating policy issue of our times: weed
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PT6A posted:Next to his?! Please clarify why urinal etiquette was violated, and by whom. It was a crowded restroom. As I was going in I noticed his earpiece bodyguard guy at the door. There were a few urinals available, but all single spaces between two dudes (no etiquette was breached). I spotted the gross haircut and kind of gravitated towards Harper and set up next to him. I didn't muster up the courage to size him up. A lost opportunity, truly. Tin Hat posted:Hang on, was he there with family or friends, or was he just going to the movies alone and eating hot dogs? I think I only saw him with his kids once or twice. Never with his wife. Most of the time he would show up with an older male friend of his (and the 5 to 6 burly super-obvious ear-piece bodyguards). I don't think I actually ever served him food, but my girlfriend did and said he was awkward as gently caress.
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PT6A posted:The fact is that, no thanks to their policies, Canada weathered the 2008 crisis decently if you measure it by how many CPC voters fared. I don't for a second believe Trudeau would've done worse, and I think in an alternate reality where he were PM, he may well have done better, but I can't say that the CPC were "loving terrible" either. Refusing to acknowledge that is one significant step toward handing the CPC another victory. None of the reasons Canada fared better than other countries in 2008 had anything to do with Harper or his policies. Brannock posted:It's still absolutely baffling that Harper actually did away with the goddamn census. It's not, when you consider that damaging government's ability to govern effectively strengthens the argument that government is inherently incompetent. See also: http://ipolitics.ca/2015/10/11/kevin-pages-pre-election-fiscal-warning-the-process-has-been-completely-broken-2/ tl;dr: The government cut spending, but doesn't actually know what they cut spending on.
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Nov 3, 2015 06:47
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PT6A posted:The fact is that, no thanks to their policies, Canada weathered the 2008 crisis decently if you measure it by how many CPC voters fared. I don't for a second believe Trudeau would've done worse, and I think in an alternate reality where he were PM, he may well have done better, but I can't say that the CPC were "loving terrible" either. Refusing to acknowledge that is one significant step toward handing the CPC another victory. That's not true though, at all. The Conservatives only had a minority government back then and couldn't enact their entire agenda: what "saved" Canada from the worst of the 2008 crisis were previous policies that the Conservatives didn't have the power to reverse yet.
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MonsieurChoc posted:That's not true though, at all. The Conservatives only had a minority government back then and couldn't enact their entire agenda: what "saved" Canada from the worst of the 2008 crisis were previous policies that the Conservatives didn't have the power to reverse yet. In support of this, it's worth remembering that as Reform Party head Harper argued for bank deregulation and passed some when he came to power in 2006, including things like letting US mortgage insurers into the Canadian market, which paved the way for no down payment, interest only mortgages. That's a direct contributor to our current housing bubble. And people seem to forget that Harper's initial response to the death-spiral of the American economy was to suggest cutting spending, to avoid the dreaded deficit. It's only after the opposition attacked and threatened to bring down the government, which triggered the coalition crisis and the prorogation, that the Conservatives rolled out stimulus measures to maintain their hold on power. E: eliminating the per-vote subsidy was the other big issue at the time, but they got that one in the end. Beelzebufo fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Nov 3, 2015 |
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Brannock posted:It's still absolutely baffling that Harper actually did away with the goddamn census. Not really, according to people that hate the long form census it's a waste of time that you can make stuff up on if you're so inclined, and an invasion of privacy. My parents apparently have these views, it's fun talking to them about politics while at Thanksgiving dinner.
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Nov 3, 2015 11:20
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I don't think this has been mentioned yet but in a piece about the House of Lords last weekend, John Oliver incorrectly used a picture of Kevin Vickers.
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Brannock posted:It's still absolutely baffling that Harper actually did away with the goddamn census. Getting rid of it was not surprising in itself (it was profoundly stupid, but not surprising given Harper's policies), the baffling part was replacing it with a more expensive, less reliable survey.
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Jorghnassen posted:Getting rid of it was not surprising in itself (it was profoundly stupid, but not surprising given Harper's policies), the baffling part was replacing it with a more expensive, less reliable survey. Did it tell him what he wanted to hear? Cause if it did, I think we're about to be unbaffled.
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Jorghnassen posted:Getting rid of it was not surprising in itself (it was profoundly stupid, but not surprising given Harper's policies), the baffling part was replacing it with a more expensive, less reliable survey. I might be wrong about this but as I recall they tried to bury the news of getting rid of it by putting it in some obscure newsletter the friday before a three day weekend or something. When people actually noticed they developed their spin about it being "mandatory" and then shat out their voluntary form to match the spin. I think the plan was always to quietly get rid of it with no replacement. When the story got a lot more coverage and outrage than they expected they had to come up with a solution that still kept it dead and matched their rhetoric but made it look not so bad.
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Baudin posted:Not really, according to people that hate the long form census it's a waste of time that you can make stuff up on if you're so inclined, and an invasion of privacy. My parents apparently have these views, it's fun talking to them about politics while at Thanksgiving dinner. Ask them if they prefer that their local school district set taxation based on actual data or what the trustee in charge of the finance committee thinks the community demographic is made up of based on who he sees at Tim Hortons on the Wednesday mornings he stops in for a breakfast sandwich.
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Nov 3, 2015 15:42
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Wow Kevin Vickers Canadian hero. Next up a goon montage of Wayne Gretzky and that pic of jtf2 leading out their Arab hostages out of the back of an American cargo plane.
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Cultural Imperial posted:Wow Kevin Vickers Canadian hero. Next up a goon montage of Wayne Gretzky and that pic of jtf2 leading out their Arab hostages out of the back of an American cargo plane. Remember that time Kevin Vickets and Wayne Gretzky burned down the white house and won the war with America which earned us our progressive health care system proving that we are both a real country and better than the USA?
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Nov 3, 2015 16:08
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I'm sure he'd kick an rear end or two That's what Kevin Vickers would do
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Baronjutter posted:Remember that time Kevin Vickets and Wayne Gretzky burned down the white house and won the war with America which earned us our progressive health care system proving that we are both a real country and better than the USA? Thank you for reminding me that Gretzky endorsed Harper. I had forgotten and it's much funnier now.
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Nov 3, 2015 16:15
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Cynical support of CI's iconoclastic bullshit requires at least a mention of peacekeeping. Edit: hope you enjoy being in Ezra Levant's company.
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Nov 3, 2015 16:20
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Tom has made a public appearance. http://twitter.com/22_Minutes/status/661549677708488704/video/1
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Nov 3, 2015 16:22
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:I don't think this has been mentioned yet but in a piece about the House of Lords last weekend, John Oliver incorrectly used a picture of Kevin Vickers. The House of Lords, a group you know so little about you didn't even realize this wasn't the British House of Lords.  With John Oliver's show its tough to tell if that's a fuckup or an Easter egg.
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Pinterest Mom posted:Tom has made a public appearance. Too little, too late.
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Nov 3, 2015 17:15
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Nov 3, 2015 17:24
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angerbeet posted:I don't want the government to know how many toilets I have SMART WATER METERS WILL TELL THE GOVERNMENT WHEN I POOP. Do you think the government needs to know when you poop??? Sign my petition against dangerous water meters that will poison out water supply with ionizing wifi.
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Baronjutter posted:SMART WATER METERS WILL TELL THE GOVERNMENT WHEN I POOP. angerbeet posted:I don't want the government to know how many toilets I have I want to laugh at this, but I know these people.
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Nov 3, 2015 17:29
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They already know. They just look at the data the NSA has about increased cellphone use and they correlate that with you on the toilet.
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Nov 3, 2015 18:11
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Can someone design a plug-in for the Awful app similar to the one someone designed for comment sections which just replace everything with "faaaaaaart" except do it for all of CI's posts Because every one of his posts is a poo poo post.
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Nov 3, 2015 18:25
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There was a script for some SH/SC poster that replaced all of his posts with entries from some computer wiki, that was both useful and informative.
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Nov 3, 2015 18:30
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MA-Horus posted:Can someone design a plug-in for the Awful app similar to the one someone designed for comment sections which just replace everything with "faaaaaaart" except do it for all of CI's posts Here's a Tampermonkey script to do that: code:
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Since we're on the subject of patriotic stupidity, it appears that Canadians have finally surpassed their southern neighbors when it comes to being delusional about their country: http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/11/02/move-over-america-canada-is-the-land-of-the-free/ quote:According to a new report from the Legatum Institute, a think tank based in London, 94 percent of Canadians believe they have the freedom to live their lives as they choose, while roughly 92 percent believe the country is a good place for immigrants. Canada, the report found, is the freest country in the entire world. It’s also the most tolerant of immigrants. We're the freest, best country on earth by virtue of having the most ignorant population! Wheeee! 
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Nov 3, 2015 19:24
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Nov 3, 2015 19:27
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Canadians have long had a strange inferiority/superiority complex feedback loop, the dirty little secret is we're really just slightly toned down Americans (and not by much).
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Nov 3, 2015 19:30
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Rime posted:It’s also the most tolerant of immigrants. Who cooked up these stats considering ~37% of people voted for the two parties which ran on platforms consisting primarily of anti-Muslim rhetoric.
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Tipps posted:Who cooked up these stats considering ~37% of people voted for the two parties which ran on platforms consisting primarily of anti-Muslim rhetoric. Maybe those people believe that Canada is a good place for immigrants but they don't want it to be.
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Nov 3, 2015 19:33
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Many conservatives want it to be a good country for immigrants, and they believe it is, just not for immigrants who follow the bad religion.
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Nov 3, 2015 19:38
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Tipps posted:Who cooked up these stats considering ~37% of people voted for the two parties which ran on platforms consisting primarily of anti-Muslim rhetoric. Well you'd have to go check the stats for other countries really. 'Most tolerant of immigrants' does not rule out 'actually not that tolerant of immigrants'.
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DynamicSloth posted:Canadians have long had a strange inferiority/superiority complex feedback loop, the dirty little secret is we're really just slightly toned down Americans (and not by much). That's why CI's posts aren't shitposts. Canadians are the shitposts.
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Nov 3, 2015 19:57
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Is there any talk of dumping Mulclair for the election fallout?
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Nov 3, 2015 20:03
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The next election is in 2019. There's no particular urgency to change leaders right now.
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Nov 3, 2015 20:11
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lmao, the greens bribed hyer to cross the floorquote:Green Party topped up Bruce Hyer's House of Commons salary
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Bruce was an OK MP until he picked the long gun registry of all things as his hill to die on. He used to run a few different wilderness outfitting businesses so I can sort of see where he was coming from on it, but I think he misjudged how much support he'd get from his rural constituents vs how many of constituents only voted for him because they support the NDP.
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Pinterest Mom posted:lmao, the greens bribed hyer to cross the floor EMay wouldn't be making the extra cash from being party leader because the Greens don't have party standing. So while yes, other parties do get these sorts of stipends, the fact that Emay doesn't get special Green Party cash while he does makes this pretty much a loving bribe, extra work needed to be done aside. Given that he was almost immediately appointed deputy leader also makes that entire process shady. It should be pointed out though that any such crossings to a party that can appoint MPs to positions where they get paid more can also effectively bribe with public cash, but at best you can assign them as committee chair (11.7K) without getting other members pissed.
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