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Skandranon posted:The only charge attack that obviously improves the longer you hold it is the conflagration staff, and that's more about increasing the AoE effect, not the damage. Bolt staff gives off more damage the longer you hold it. Tested it on stationary commanders with my mythic staff. If you hold down and quickly throw a bolt - at most you'll stagger. Hold it down though, watch commanders do backflips.
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Skandranon posted:The only charge attack that obviously improves the longer you hold it is the conflagration staff, and that's more about increasing the AoE effect, not the damage. Nice, that will make a big difference for me since so far I've mostly played dwarf and soldier with the shield and axe or sword. dogstile posted:Yeah, early on its a bit rough, i'd say the handgun is probably the most useful item in the game. The dwarf has his crossbow though, so he should be able to take out specials if you tank the r'orge I really want to get the better soldier gun, but until that happens I'll probably stick to the dwarf since I have his rifle (not that I'm opposed to using bows or crossbows, but I think guns are more fun).
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Stringbean posted:Bolt staff gives off more damage the longer you hold it. Tested it on stationary commanders with my mythic staff. If you hold down and quickly throw a bolt - at most you'll stagger. Hold it down though, watch commanders do backflips. Not saying I don't believe you, because I've suspected this, but I don't have a Bolt staff at the moment and never did some actual tests, but did you make sure you were not headshotting them? The secondary fire has the Head Shot ability, so should do a ton more damage to the head, even if only charged to minimum value.
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drat Dirty Ape posted:Is this true for all charging attacks? It's true for all non Bright Wizard witchcraft. The only value of charging a melee attack more than the minimum split second requirement is considerations of positioning.
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Captain Oblivious posted:It's true for all non Bright Wizard witchcraft. WEll holy poo poo I mean I've been taking those slings and arrows thinking I gotta charge this hammer up or it won't save my friends and bleeding out my new kidney holes before I could swing.
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Skandranon posted:Not saying I don't believe you, because I've suspected this, but I don't have a Bolt staff at the moment and never did some actual tests, but did you make sure you were not headshotting them? The secondary fire has the Head Shot ability, so should do a ton more damage to the head, even if only charged to minimum value. I've tested over several games and I try not to spout nonsense as much as possible. Not to toot my own horn, but I've got a knack for headshots. I'll test it out some more when I've a chance. But I'm 99.8% sure charged bolts do more then quick-fire bolt.
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Chomp8645 posted:Holy poo poo I went straight from a white quality handgun on the soldier to an orange "Pfalz Harquebuss" handgun. On the first outing I popped two stormvermin's heads in one shot. I have an orange handgun that penetrates an extra target and also has a chance to add an additional bullet. I once killed an entire stormvermin patrol in one shot.
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I've noticed that with the bolt staff if you hold your right click to a certain point it seems to one shot specials and penetrate through entire hordes, but if you just tap the right click it doesn't.
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Nov 3, 2015 20:18
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Yeah the bolt definitely is improved with longer charging.
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Nov 3, 2015 21:16
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Best thing about this game is votekicking dipshits just as you're about to hit the wagon.
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Cake Smashing Boob posted:Best thing about this game is votekicking dipshits just as you're about to hit the wagon. I don't really get this. If they were actively attempting to sabotage your win, presumably they'd have already been votekicked to prevent them from loving you over. If they were just BAD, you've already made it to the wagon, so why be a prick and boot them after you've already won? I mean, sometimes people are just bad at video games, or they're young, or they're having an off day or whatever. I don't really see what's accomplished by doing that except making the community that much more toxic.
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Kamikaze Raider posted:I don't really get this. Robbing them of the loot they thought they were about to get? Added bonus if you then invite a friend to get said loot.
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Skandranon posted:Robbing them of the loot they thought they were about to get? Added bonus if you then invite a friend to get said loot. I dunno. Seems like a lot of effort to punish someone who isn't as good at video games as you think they should be.
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Yeah, that is a pretty rear end in a top hat move. If they were good enough to get you to the wagon, let them have their loot then boot them if you want someone better for the next map.
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Kamikaze Raider posted:I dunno. Seems like a lot of effort to punish someone who isn't as good at video games as you think they should be. It is very mean, and profits the host nothing, but that is what draws people to do it, taking pleasure at the suffering of others. You do know where you are, right?
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Skandranon posted:It is very mean, and profits the host nothing, but that is what draws people to do it, taking pleasure at the suffering of others. You do know where you are, right? Not 4chan?
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its about ethics in video game partyisms
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I think it's more about not acting like a pubbie dick because isn't that exactly the sort of thing pubbie dicks have been doing?
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Don't blame him for being a dick to pubbies for no reason, he probably plays elf and can't help it.
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rezatahs posted:I think it's more about not acting like a pubbie dick because isn't that exactly the sort of thing pubbie dicks have been doing? No, you don't get it, it's being a pubbie dick when pubbies do it. When Goons do it, it's griefing for lulz, and GoonFleet and Dentists and poo poo, and it's all good.
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3 blue 2h hammers 3 blue 2h swords shy of an orange of either on Soldier  Don't even get me started on 1hs and shield that I only have 2 greens of.
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It comes down to something I like to call the Magna Carta of the internet...
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Skandranon posted:It is very mean, and profits the host nothing, but that is what draws people to do it, taking pleasure at the suffering of others. You do know where you are, right? Who would do that even? Who would go on the internet and be a dick for no reason?
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Coolguye posted:its about ethics in video game partyisms
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Yeah, that's.... pretty bad. Just because people are dicks sometimes doesn't make it okay to be a dick yourself. Not a huge deal or anything, but definitely nothing to be proud of.
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Skandranon posted:It is very mean, and profits the host nothing, but that is what draws people to do it, taking pleasure at the suffering of others. You do know where you are, right? SA isn't really the same place it was 10 or even 4 years ago. I can't speak for FYAD but we've grown up slightly. Trolling for fun is passe. Rubber necking at other people's stupidity is the new hotness
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Don't be the guy other people complain about in this thread. Then act insufferable over your mastery of the mouse buttons and knowledge that there are more than one. It's pretty simple really.
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Al Borland posted:3 blue 2h hammers 3 blue 2h swords shy of an orange of either on Soldier You're telling us you have 5 blue two handed weapons and you're not reforging them into a orange 2h?
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the only way i will ever see an orange soldier rifle is by getting 125 white ones
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Azerban posted:the only way i will ever see an orange soldier rifle is by getting 125 white ones Same but with longbows 
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Lima posted:Same but with longbows I too believed this once, and now I have a wonderful master-crafted longbow. Now, if only I could get another rapier.
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What you guys are looking for is nightmare difficulty. That's where the loot is.
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Trudis posted:What you guys are looking for is nightmare difficulty. That's where the loot is. and true tears begin
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DevNull posted:Yeah, that is a pretty rear end in a top hat move. If they were good enough to get you to the wagon, let them have their loot then boot them if you want someone better for the next map. gently caress that noise.
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Kamikaze Raider posted:I dunno. Seems like a lot of effort to punish someone who isn't as good at video games as you think they should be. It's got nothing to do with being bad. I'll carry baddies all day long. If you act like an idiot, though, I'll still carry your loving rear end except I'll also make sure you just wasted your loving time because why not? I don't owe assholes poo poo. Cake Smashing Boob fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Nov 3, 2015 |
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Cake Smashing Boob posted:It's got nothing to do with being bad. I'll carry baddies all day long. If you act like an idiot, though, I'll still carry your loving rear end except I'll also make sure you just wasted your loving time because why not? I don't owe assholes poo poo. The why not is because doing this makes you the rear end in a top hat and idiot.
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Tiler Kiwi posted:that just makes you an rear end in a top hat Cool. I'm an rear end in a top hat to assholes then, I'll readily admit.
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Stringbean posted:You're telling us you have 5 blue two handed weapons and you're not reforging them into a orange 2h? why do that when i can guarantee 1 of each in orange of the types I want?
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