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meatpimp
May 15, 2004

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Liquid Communism posted:

Clearly those are Fieros made up to look like racehorses. :colbert:

It's always a Fiero.

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Jun 20, 2011
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

And you are making a blanket statement that is known to be false, just like I've heard over and over again. You are just like all of those greyhound owners that went on and on about how the sport was nto using live baiting and not destroying dogs - until they were caught on loving video live baiting and dropping failed dogs off bridges in bags. ALL your claims are just loving crap. 95% of all race horses become glue, the horses are forced to run for the pissweak entertainment of drunken fools all for the express purposes of feeding a hugely evil industry called gambling.

It most certainly animal cruelty and every single investigation has proven it time and time again - the industry over and over again gets caught with it's pants down with these same loving lies. And if hroses were cared for better than household pets, they would be too loving fat to run.

The fact it's all for gambling is especially abhorrent.

Prove one of these statements. Just one. Give me a link to a news article on any of these investigations, or some other form of proof from an unbiased source that "95% of all racehorses become glue."

Noise Complaint
Sep 27, 2004

Who could be scared of a Jeffrey?

Liquid Communism posted:

Clearly those are Fieros made up to look like racehorses. :colbert:

If I wind up with another horse I'm naming it Iron Duke.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

Liquid Communism posted:

Clearly those are Fieros made up to look like racehorses. :colbert:

Nah, they're 4wd. They're probably blazers

Thelonious
Jul 16, 2005

I find it funny that cat interceptor is so angry about horses, since he's always sitting so high on one.

rdb
Jul 8, 2002
chicken mctesticles?

Noise Complaint posted:

95% of race horses get turned into glue or dog food or whatever so where do these organizations get them?

http://canterusa.org/
http://www.goodhorse.org/
http://www.thoroughbredadoption.com/
http://www.rerunottb.com/
http://www.horseadoption.com/

FWIW I have an OTTB too, he came from Second Stride.

El Jebus
Jun 18, 2008

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I disagree :colbert:

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Geoj posted:

I also recently picked up a set of 921s off of Amazon for my wife's reverse lights and I'm pretty happy with the results, the brand was JDM astar.

I snagged a pair of these (only needed one) to throw in my WJ's CHMSL because the brake light flasher I added to it is a lot more effective without the incandescent fade in / out.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011

Boaz MacPhereson posted:

Wait, whose? Autolumination.com or JDM Astar?

I'd assume autolumination. I have heard bad things about them before, and people steer you towards superbrightleds or the slightly overpriced Amazon offerings.


Edit: I have to add to my ultrapost above that both the car's flasher (what makes the turn/hazard signals blink) will probably need to be changed for one that works with lower loads that LEDs take. In addition to that, there are also literal "flashers" like IoC posted above that blink the brake light (usually the center light on cars) in a certain pattern. Both of my motorcycles do four quick blinks -> four slow blinks -> solidly on. The blink sets take a short enough time that I don't believe I am constantly annoying traffic, and I can hold one of the brake switches down slightly to keep the solid light on without throwing a following driver into epilepsy.

On my bus, the wiring for the flasher is weird and nonstandard. I could whip up a three-wire adapter to make an electronic flasher work, but instead I left the front BA9S parking light bulbs as incandescent, and they pull enough load with my off-brand flasher that they still blink without hyperflashing or getting stuck on. Choosing the correct flasher is just as important as choosing the right LED bulbs.

Queen_Combat fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Nov 3, 2015

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Thelonious posted:

I find it funny that cat interceptor is so angry about horses, since he's always sitting so high on one.

:sbahj:

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

Geirskogul posted:

I'd assume autolumination. I have heard bad things about them before, and people steer you towards superbrightleds or the slightly overpriced Amazon offerings.

Up until recently I bought all of my plug and play LED modules from autolumination, never really had an issue with build quality...all of my complaints about them are in regard to a lovely website that's thin on information (almost all of their product descriptions include "the BEST and BRIGHTEST surface mount LEDs" so you can't really rely on product description alone) and slow shipping.

Geirskogul posted:

Edit: I have to add to my ultrapost above that both the car's flasher (what makes the turn/hazard signals blink) will probably need to be changed for one that works with lower loads that LEDs take.

You can also get load balancers (basically a big resistor with a heatsink) that splice across the signal wires. On a lot of newer cars (anything made since 2000) the flasher module is integrated onto a circuit board and there isn't a flasher module that can be replaced, so that's the only way to prevent the fast blink caused by LEDs.

Noise Complaint posted:

95% of race horses get turned into glue or dog food or whatever so where do these organizations get them?

http://canterusa.org/
http://www.goodhorse.org/
http://www.thoroughbredadoption.com/
http://www.rerunottb.com/
http://www.horseadoption.com/

I would observe that if the horse racing industry is so responsible why do these rescues have to exist?

Geoj fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Nov 3, 2015

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


IOwnCalculus posted:

If you need a follow-up, my daughter still loves this one three years in: http://www.amazon.com/Racecar-Alphabet-Notable-Childrens-Younger/dp/0689850913

http://www.thelittleredracingcar.com/little-red-racing-car/
and
http://www.thelittleredracingcar.com/greatest-race/

I put in for the Kickstarter for both. Neat books.

LloydDobler posted:

Buddy of mine told me his facebook horror story today. An ex girlfriend who he very *tentatively* reconnected with posted pictures of herself with her new baby. He read the comments, pretty generic supporting stuff, so he chimed in "congratulations, you're gonna make a great mom".

Two days later a mutual friend informs him that he just congratulated her on a stillbirth. The pics were of her grieving with a dead baby.

Edit:

The moral of the story Rhyno is it happens all the time. Facebooks sucks because it increases the quantity of communication while lowering the quality. As you and my friend learned this week.

Who in the gently caress posts pictures of their dead baby?


LED lights:
I used a bunch of the higher end ones from this guy on eBay in my Crown Vic: http://www.ebay.com/usr/dt-autotech?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2754
I'm pleased with how bright the tail/brake and front marker/turn LEDs are.

I used these:
Brake/tail: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2X-Red-5630-Chip-LEDs-3157-High-Power-Turn-Signal-Blinker-Light-Bulbs-/331272229393?vxp=mtr&hash=item4d215d1211
Park/turn: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2X-560-Lume...=item35dc7bfa25
Corner/side marker: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2X-T10-921-...=item4d0c39cb39

All of them are pretty damned bright. The side marker one could be a bit more "amber" since my lenses are clear (factory), but they're acceptable.

I used this same seller, but different model bulbs, in my Cherokee, and they continue to work after almost 2 years. They were acceptable, but the new ones I got for the CV are definitely brighter.

edit: oh, and the white grid/panel LEDs for all the interior lights behind lenses on both the CV and the Jeep. When I turn on the dome light, I intend to be able to see stuff on the floor, dammit. 194 or whatever for all the other courtesy lights and dash lights. Even found some wee-bitty ones for the little guys that Ford likes to use in the AC controls and some other dash bits.

Darchangel fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Nov 3, 2015

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

Darchangel posted:


Who in the gently caress posts pictures of their dead baby?


People who've just had miscarriages are rarely in their right mind.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
There are also "CANBUS-compatible" led lights. Some of them integrate resistors, and some of them actually have tiny inductors that do some sort of magic to fool the car into thinking that they're working well. Don't know how healthy it is for the car's systems, but I've seen a few of them work. My buddy just bought a 2015 Jetta and like a random half of the bulbs are monitored by the canbus and half aren't, but we eventually figured it out.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках

Geoj posted:

I would observe that if the horse racing industry is so responsible why do these rescues have to exist?

Because you smoked yourself too retarded to follow basic logic.

No, that isn't fair. Those rescues exist because racehorses are like any athlete. They have a very short working career, but are still perfectly good for things that are not competitive track racing afterwards. So there are groups to help with the transition from working racer to someone's pet, because the breeders and trainers of racehorses would rather just transfer ownership and concentrate on racing.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
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Geirskogul posted:

I'd assume autolumination. I have heard bad things about them before, and people steer you towards superbrightleds or the slightly overpriced Amazon offerings.


Edit: I have to add to my ultrapost above that both the car's flasher (what makes the turn/hazard signals blink) will probably need to be changed for one that works with lower loads that LEDs take. In addition to that, there are also literal "flashers" like IoC posted above that blink the brake light (usually the center light on cars) in a certain pattern. Both of my motorcycles do four quick blinks -> four slow blinks -> solidly on. The blink sets take a short enough time that I don't believe I am constantly annoying traffic, and I can hold one of the brake switches down slightly to keep the solid light on without throwing a following driver into epilepsy.

On my bus, the wiring for the flasher is weird and nonstandard. I could whip up a three-wire adapter to make an electronic flasher work, but instead I left the front BA9S parking light bulbs as incandescent, and they pull enough load with my off-brand flasher that they still blink without hyperflashing or getting stuck on. Choosing the correct flasher is just as important as choosing the right LED bulbs.

Yeah, I've seen the warnings for replacing the flasher with a low/no resistance flasher. Otherwise, you apparently get the "hyperflash". Once I decide to pull the trigger on these I'll probably go with the JDM Astars. Sucks that Amazon does sales tax now (IL), but it looks like shipping is free from their website and they're based in the US (distribution anyway). Probably end up being around $75 just for bulbs. Ugh.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

Liquid Communism posted:

Because you smoked yourself too retarded to follow basic logic.

No, that isn't fair. Those rescues exist because racehorses are like any athlete. They have a very short working career, but are still perfectly good for things that are not competitive track racing afterwards. So there are groups to help with the transition from working racer to someone's pet, because the breeders and trainers of racehorses would rather just transfer ownership and concentrate on racing don't give two shits about the animals once they're no longer competitive.

Fixed.

Adiabatic
Nov 18, 2007

What have you assholes done now?

Geoj posted:

I would observe that if the horse racing industry is so responsible why do these rescues have to exist?

"THE LACK OF RESCUES SHOWS HOW IRRESPONSIBLE THIS INDUSTRY IS"

*people make rescues and, you know, better the community and poo poo*

"THE PRESENCE OF RESCUES SHOWS HOW IRRESPONSIBLE THIS INDUSTRY IS"

:rolleyes:

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Geoj posted:

Fixed.

Horse breeder 1: "Hey buddy, what should we do about these horses that are too old to race? I bet some people would like to have them as pets."
Horse breeder 2: "Naw, gently caress that, let's just leave them in the pasture forever and ever."

Adiabatic
Nov 18, 2007

What have you assholes done now?

Geoj posted:

Fixed.

I challenge you to actively better your community instead of being an annoying sadbrains slacktivist.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

Pham Nuwen posted:

Horse breeder 1: "Hey buddy, what should we do about these horses that are too old to race? I bet some people would like to have them as pets."
Horse breeder 2: "Naw, gently caress that, let's just leave them in the pasture forever and ever."

Where do you think these horses would end up if it wasn't for the rescues taking them when they are no longer wanted?

Adiabatic posted:

I challenge you to actively better your community instead of being an annoying sadbrains slacktivist.

I still volunteer at the animal shelter my wife used to work at, but I'm sure that doesn't count in your book - right?

Adiabatic
Nov 18, 2007

What have you assholes done now?
No that counts! While "instead" is optimal, "and" is sufficient.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
Jesus, D&D and PI are that way. :v:

Boaz MacPhereson posted:

Wait, whose? Autolumination.com or JDM Astar?

CTLumination/Autolumination/Superlumination. The order slip and website are a dizzying combination of these names* and when you pay up, the receipt from paypal just lists sumdood's email address, not an actual company. Between that and the lovely rear end connectors and crimps I received, having to badger the guy to actually send the rest of my order, and the 1995 geocities style website, and the "flea market franchise" thing he has going, I was too skeezed out to ever buy again, even the LEDs people seem to like.

*
email from autolumination@comcast.net but lists superlumination@cox.net in the email body itself.
It was delivered to me even though the "to" address was ctlumination@cox.net.

Confused yet?

Then the paypal address is some random dude's gmail.

Oh and the order receipt doesn't list what you got. I fortunately still had my order page open in my web browser when the order arrived, because neither does the slip that comes with the order. So who loving knows how anyone else not lucky enough to be a browser tab packrat manages to verify if they got everything they put into a bigass order.

I don't often poo poo on a business, especially a one man operation, but goddamn, if you're gonna pretend your poo poo don't stink and that you have the best stuff on the planet maybe it shouldn't be crappy bullshit I would be disappointed with even if I bought it at HF.

Noise Complaint
Sep 27, 2004

Who could be scared of a Jeffrey?
Transferring ownership on a horse is more like transferring the title and registration on a vehicle then it is adopting a dog from a shelter. There's a bunch of paperwork that needs to be completed and medical stuff transferred. With the thoroughbreds that also includes extensive lineage/genetic history which is actually kind of neat.

We even have horse insurance that's more like vehicle insurance than it is medical insurance, heh

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
I'm just not sure where the VIN tag is or how you use an OBD2 tool on them TBH.

They also seem to leak a lot more than I'm used to.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Geirskogul posted:

Edit: I have to add to my ultrapost above that both the car's flasher (what makes the turn/hazard signals blink) will probably need to be changed for one that works with lower loads that LEDs take. In addition to that, there are also literal "flashers" like IoC posted above that blink the brake light (usually the center light on cars) in a certain pattern. Both of my motorcycles do four quick blinks -> four slow blinks -> solidly on. The blink sets take a short enough time that I don't believe I am constantly annoying traffic, and I can hold one of the brake switches down slightly to keep the solid light on without throwing a following driver into epilepsy.

The one I linked has a customizable timeout - I think I have mine set to five seconds.


Neat, might need to add those to the wishlist for her ever-expanding library.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



edit: wait gently caress this, anybody deliver any pizza lately?

Pham Nuwen fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Nov 4, 2015

literally a fish
Oct 2, 2014

German officer Johannes Bolter peeks out the hatch of his Tiger I heavy tank during a quiet moment before the Battle of Kursk - c:1943 (colorized)
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I don't really want to get into this shitfight but it's probably worth mentioning that while what you guys say about it all being happy and fine in the US may be true, this may be an instance where Australia (where myself and CAT INTERCEPTOR live) is much much more reprehensible than you guys.

This page, while obviously being prejudiced: http://www.animalsaustralia.org/issues/horse_racing.php still has multiple actual studies listed and definitely shows that some poo poo is at the very least not kind to the horses;

quote:

The feeding of high concentrate diets (grains) fed during training rather than extended grazing, often leads to gastric ulcers. A study of racehorses at Randwick (NSW) found that 89% had stomach ulcers, and many of the horses had deep, bleeding ulcers within 8 weeks of the commencement of their training (Newby, J - Welfare issues raised by racehorse ulcer study, The Veterinarian, March 2000).

The RSPCA has some information on this as well, and while it's not as bad as CAT INTERCEPTOR said, it's definitely not looking good:

quote:

A 2004 report found that the total wastage rate for horses in training or racing was 39% for Thoroughbreds and 38% for Standardbreds.
...
Of the 39% of Thoroughbreds which left a racing stable, 6% were reported to have been sent to a knackery while 17% of Standardbred horses were reported to have been sent to the same destination. The authors noted that these figures possibly underestimate the true rate because they do not take into account those horses that left a racing stable for another destination and then subsequently went to a slaughterhouse.

All kinds of stupid poo poo goes down at our annual "Spring Racing Carnival" down here in victoria too, complete with idiotic drunk girls pushing cops over, people losing absurd amounts of money on betting - TABcorp, the biggest betting agency in the country, takes in $180mil on Melbourne Cup Day alone - it's really just lovely, and while CAT INTERCEPTOR is probably (though not certainly) exaggerating, I completely understand the fury. We absolutely adore beating the crap out of horses for entertainment, and it needs to stop, if only for the gambling aspect.

It's also worth mentioning that at the end of a race at the melbourne cup most of the horses have Exercise-induced pulmonary hemorrhage, which is blood in their lungs from being overexerted - I'm still trying to find my source for how many, though IIRC there was a study around 2012 where they examined a bunch of racehorses post-race and found it was somewhere over half.

[Edit:] Ah, here we are. Rural Industries Research and Development Corporation publication 05/026, Exercise-Induced Pulmonary Haemorrhage in Thoroughbred Racehorses (PDF link) - "~56 % of horses in the current study were affected to some degree [by Exercise-Induced Pulmonary Haemorrhage]". It's also worth noting that last year two horses died of EIPH at the carnival.


RE: LED chat; I've been burned a million times by cheap chinese LEDs. By the time you get through enough of them to find the one that actually works, you'd have been better off just buying a more expensive better-built unit at the start, or something from an actual brand. And even the good cheap chinese LEDs usually burn right out just as quickly as incandescents, as heat is the enemy of LEDs and the chinese seem to be of the opinion that if it can handle the heat for an hour it should be able to handle it forever...

literally a fish fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Nov 4, 2015

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

literally a fish posted:

I don't really want to get into this shitfight but it's probably worth mentioning that while what you guys say about it all being happy and fine in the US may be true, this may be an instance where Australia (where myself and CAT INTERCEPTOR live) is much much more reprehensible than you guys.

This page, while obviously being prejudiced: http://www.animalsaustralia.org/issues/horse_racing.php still has multiple actual studies listed and definitely shows that some poo poo is at the very least not kind to the horses;


The RSPCA has some information on this as well, and while it's not as bad as CAT INTERCEPTOR said, it's definitely not looking good:


All kinds of stupid poo poo goes down at our annual "Spring Racing Carnival" down here in victoria too, complete with idiotic drunk girls pushing cops over, people losing absurd amounts of money on betting - TABcorp, the biggest betting agency in the country, takes in $180mil on Melbourne Cup Day alone - it's really just lovely, and while CAT INTERCEPTOR is probably (though not certainly) exaggerating, I completely understand the fury. We absolutely adore beating the crap out of horses for entertainment, and it needs to stop, if only for the gambling aspect.

It's also worth mentioning that at the end of a race at the melbourne cup most of the horses have Exercise-induced pulmonary hemorrhage, which is blood in their lungs from being overexerted - I'm still trying to find my source for how many, though IIRC there was a study around 2012 where they examined a bunch of racehorses post-race and found it was somewhere over half.

[Edit:] Ah, here we are. Rural Industries Research and Development Corporation publication 05/026, Exercise-Induced Pulmonary Haemorrhage in Thoroughbred Racehorses (PDF link) - "~56 % of horses in the current study were affected to some degree [by Exercise-Induced Pulmonary Haemorrhage]". It's also worth noting that last year two horses died of EIPH at the carnival.


RE: LED chat; I've been burned a million times by cheap chinese LEDs. By the time you get through enough of them to find the one that actually works, you'd have been better off just buying a more expensive better-built unit at the start, or something from an actual brand. And even the good cheap chinese LEDs usually burn right out just as quickly as incandescents, as heat is the enemy of LEDs and the chinese seem to be of the opinion that if it can handle the heat for an hour it should be able to handle it forever...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azdJ2vd1lhg

MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

tbh the only horses I like are the ones on my dinner plate

literally a fish
Oct 2, 2014

German officer Johannes Bolter peeks out the hatch of his Tiger I heavy tank during a quiet moment before the Battle of Kursk - c:1943 (colorized)
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The sad part is that Jordan is actually 100% accurate here ._.

Our current government is really, really bad.

bennyfactor
Nov 21, 2008

Rhyno posted:

So this stupid list of politicians with KKK ties just so happens to include the mayor of my town, Tom Henry (up for re-election tomorrow). Suddenly y various news feeds are exploding with people who have proof he's a Klansman, people who swear he'd never be affiliated and people threatening violence at each other. The thing is, Indiana is probably yhr most Klan friendly state in the union these days so I don't know why anyone would be surprised by this.

Fort Wayne: electing a guy literally named "Harry Baals" wasn't actually our most embarrassing choice for mayor, all things considered.

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


Noise Complaint posted:

If I wind up with another horse I'm naming it Iron Duke.

I'd totally bet on a horse with that name.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

Elmnt80 posted:

I'd totally bet on a horse with that name.

To deliver the mail. :v:

literally a fish
Oct 2, 2014

German officer Johannes Bolter peeks out the hatch of his Tiger I heavy tank during a quiet moment before the Battle of Kursk - c:1943 (colorized)
Slippery Tilde

Phone posted:

To deliver the mail. :v:

Grumman Long Life Equine

mariooncrack
Dec 27, 2008

Pham Nuwen posted:

edit: wait gently caress this, anybody deliver any pizza lately?

I had pizza for dinner, does that count?

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

bennyfactor posted:

Fort Wayne: electing a guy literally named "Harry Baals" wasn't actually our most embarrassing choice for mayor, all things considered.

Well the list ended up being fake as Anon denounced it. Hopefully Mayor Henry gets outed as the Grand Wizard when the real list drops.

Beverly Cleavage
Jun 22, 2004

I am a pretty pretty princess, watch me do my pretty princess dance....

mariooncrack posted:

I had pizza for dinner, does that count?

tastes like horsies.

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Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

Pham Nuwen posted:

edit: wait gently caress this, anybody deliver any pizza lately?

I delivered one but the cook made the wrong thing and I had to go back. Fortunately it's unseasonably warm tonight, which means upper 60s and it feels great out.

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