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Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

Pook Good Mook posted:

Only if their reaction times are measured in nanoseconds.

TBH, if they have the reaction time to deflect blasters, they probably have the reaction time to deal with shotguns or any other projectile weapon.

It might be even moot considering that someone pointed out that Jedi can see a second or two into the future. That's a reaction time in negative seconds.

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sleepy.eyes
Sep 14, 2007

Like a pig in a chute.

RFC2324 posted:

Wait, I know! Karen Traviss came up with this: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Verpine_shatter_gun

Advanced magnetic fields, lol. Not a rail gun/gauss rifle, totally more advanced! I don't know dick-all about this stuff, but wouldn't something like that be just as noisy as a normal gun anyway, because the shot would be supersonic?

Young Freud posted:

TBH, if they have the reaction time to deflect blasters, they probably have the reaction time to deal with shotguns or any other projectile weapon.

It might be even moot considering that someone pointed out that Jedi can see a second or two into the future. That's a reaction time in negative seconds.

I don't know, man. Blaster bolts in the movies look like they move a lot more slowly than a bullet. My thinking was you might be able to melt a few pellets with a lightsaber, but there are still other you can't block/dodge. As to the future sight thing, just because you can see something coming doesn't mean you can get out of the way in time. Taking the data from Mythbusters, whatever an average bullet is supposed to be, it moves 1700 MPH. I think a Jedi would be hosed, future sight or not.

sleepy.eyes fucked around with this message at 06:23 on Nov 4, 2015

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

sleepy.eyes posted:

I don't know, man. Blaster bolts in the movies look like they move a lot more slowly than a bullet. My thinking was you might be able to melt a few pellets with a lightsaber, but there are still other you can't block/dodge. As to the future sight thing, just because you can see something coming doesn't mean you can get out of the way in time. Taking the data from Mythbusters, whatever an average bullet is supposed to be, it moves 1700 MPH. I think a Jedi would be hosed, future sight or not.

The question wasn't blocking with their lightsaber, or, like Darth Vader, their goddamn hand, but force pushing the entire spread back at it's shooter.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Pook Good Mook posted:

Speaking of, is there a reasonable explanation why they don't have personal shield generators in Star Wars (not counting the games)?

I don't know but if there isn't I'll make one right now: "shield generator technology is too heavy/bulky/takes too much power for personal use to be feasible". Wow what a brainteaser that was.

Smelly Bohemian
Aug 20, 2015

by Lowtax
How about a blaster gun that shot light sabers.

sleepy.eyes
Sep 14, 2007

Like a pig in a chute.

Young Freud posted:

The question wasn't blocking with their lightsaber, or, like Darth Vader, their goddamn hand, but force pushing the entire spread back at it's shooter.

I would imagine they couldn't. They would have to slow down all the pellets at once and I would think they would be too fast/take too much concentration to do that. Moving stuff with the force in the movies seems to take a lot of effort and take a moment to get the thing moving. That would take some crazy fine force control and reflexes like the Flash. Of course, since none of it is real anyway I'm sure someone wrote about some stupidly powerful force user who does poo poo like that for fun. The Jedi in the movies: don't see it. EU: hell if I know.

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


Chomp8645 posted:

I don't know but if there isn't I'll make one right now: "shield generator technology is too heavy/bulky/takes too much power for personal use to be feasible". Wow what a brainteaser that was.

Counter-point, those rolling droids in the Prequels.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

KiteAuraan posted:

Counter-point, those rolling droids in the Prequels.

Those were robots not people

The Bible
May 8, 2010

Improbable Lobster posted:

Those were robots not people

Then whatever generated their shields was made out of some dense poo poo.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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there are personal shield generators in the kotor era

Blurry Gray Thing
Jun 3, 2009

Fojar38 posted:

there are personal shield generators in the kotor era

I don't remember, is that what they used to explain why everyone is running around with swords?

Not just lightsabers (there are a lot of those too), everyone has a regular sword. That can fence with a lightsaber.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Blurry Gray Thing posted:

I don't remember, is that what they used to explain why everyone is running around with swords?

Not just lightsabers (there are a lot of those too), everyone has a regular sword. That can fence with a lightsaber.

those are vibroblades

the personal shield generator is so you can get shot/hit by a lightsaber and not die instantly

Free Market Mambo
Jul 26, 2010

by Lowtax
The slow blade penetrates the shield :colbert:

William Bear
Oct 26, 2012

"That's what they all say!"

Blurry Gray Thing posted:

I don't remember, is that what they used to explain why everyone is running around with swords?

Not just lightsabers (there are a lot of those too), everyone has a regular sword. That can fence with a lightsaber.

Their swords were partly made of cortosis! The miracle metal! The one substance in the galaxy that can resist a lightsaber.

Well, that and...

  • Amphistaff
  • Felucian Skullblade
  • Mandalorian iron
  • Neuranium
  • Orbalisk
  • Phrik
  • Songsteel
  • Ultrachrome
  • and goddamn Vonduun crabs

Yes, three of those are creatures. Amphistaffs, Orbalisks, and Vonduun crabs are snakes, giant ticks, and crabs, respectively.

William Bear fucked around with this message at 08:54 on Nov 4, 2015

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Free Market Mambo posted:

The slow blade penetrates the shield :colbert:

Shields attract sandworms though

Free Market Mambo
Jul 26, 2010

by Lowtax
Lasguns are problematic too.

gently caress

Yolomon Wayne
Jun 10, 2014

You call it "The Big Bang", but what really happened is
Grimey Drawer

sleepy.eyes posted:

I don't know, man. Blaster bolts in the movies look like they move a lot more slowly than a bullet.

What explanation does the StarWars have for what is essentially a bolt of light not moving at the speed of light?

darealkooky
Sep 15, 2011

You sayin' I like dubs?!?
has there ever been someone in the EU that just built a gun into the hilt of their sword so that when they get into the obligatory "both dudes are pressing their laser boners together" moment of every lightsaber fight they can just tap a button & shoot the other guy in the chest

or is that too dishonorable

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut

Yolomon Wayne posted:

What explanation does the StarWars have for what is essentially a bolt of light not moving at the speed of light?

I think it's actually shooting plasma?

Yolomon Wayne
Jun 10, 2014

You call it "The Big Bang", but what really happened is
Grimey Drawer

Jurgan posted:

I think it's actually shooting plasma?

Thats even worse.
Star Wars guns make "zhoufff zhoufff" and are red, which means "Laser".
Plasma goes "uuiiiiiiiiiiifpzwappp" and is blue.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
No, blue zappy things are ion weapons and they disable starships.

Yolomon Wayne
Jun 10, 2014

You call it "The Big Bang", but what really happened is
Grimey Drawer

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

No, blue zappy things are ion weapons and they disable starships.

Ah yes, in Star Wars they are.
Which is why it sucks. Stun-guns on spaceships? gtfo.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Yolomon Wayne posted:

Ah yes, in Star Wars they are.
Which is why it sucks. Stun-guns on spaceships? gtfo.

Its an EMP weapon, based on the descriptions, which is a real thing that very much disables electronics with minimal physical damage.

Ion weapons are actually the most realistic thing in Star Wars, other than maybe incest.

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!
speaking of lazor swords:

battery waistpacks and handguards

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Either way I picture him reversing out of that reverse grip carries the potential for the cord to get fouled on his wrist.

Battery pack sabers are kinda dumb IMO.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Otisburg posted:

Either way I picture him reversing out of that reverse grip carries the potential for the cord to get fouled on his wrist.

Battery pack sabers are kinda dumb IMO.

They say that they had backpack sabers too at one point :v:

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!
and much nerd rage ensued when swtor retconned the first lightsaber into looking like the movie ones

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

blowfish posted:

and much nerd rage ensued when swtor retconned the first lightsaber into looking like the movie ones

p sure SWTOR takes place thousands of years after the first lightsabers.

Scornful Sexbot
Sep 24, 2007


Dinosaur Gum

darealkooky posted:

has there ever been someone in the EU that just built a gun into the hilt of their sword so that when they get into the obligatory "both dudes are pressing their laser boners together" moment of every lightsaber fight they can just tap a button & shoot the other guy in the chest

or is that too dishonorable

The Rebels cartoon kid built his light saber with a blaster in it, and has already used it in this capacity if I recall correctly. I know he has shot storm troopers with his light saber gun tho.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



I almost want to give them credit for having just one area where science and culture weren't completely stagnant over tens of thousands of years and actually developed from something to something else.... but it's just so dumb.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

blowfish posted:

speaking of lazor swords:

battery waistpacks and handguards

Cut the other guy's cord

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"
Last night I watched star wars and made a joke that the guy who held up a washer and said "look sir droids" probably had a 1000 word wookiepedia page.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Davin_Felth

It's actually 4500 or so and star wars fans are the worst people on earth.

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

RFC2324 posted:

p sure SWTOR takes place thousands of years after the first lightsabers.

One of the first quests for the... Consular, I think? has you finding the 'First Blade'.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Cthulu Carl posted:

One of the first quests for the... Consular, I think? has you finding the 'First Blade'.

Good job Bioware!

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/First_Blade

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


LMAO they weren't just alwayts the Jedi? they had to be the Je'daii before? gently caress

ahahahah holy poo poo they actually put that Bogan poo poo into star wars from lucas's drafts

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force_Wars

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Groovelord Neato posted:

LMAO they weren't just alwayts the Jedi? they had to be the Je'daii before? gently caress

ahahahah holy poo poo they actually put that Bogan poo poo into star wars from lucas's drafts

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force_Wars

i'm the guy examining his cuticles instead of watching the force man swordfight

TK-42-1
Oct 30, 2013

looks like we have a bad transmitter



Holy loving lol they called the Dark Side Bogan. What the gently caress is wrong with these nerds.

Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020
The dumbest thing about that Dawn of the Jedi stuff is that "Je'daii" who are strongly affiliated with one side of the Force have to hang out on the moon that's associated with the side they have too much of until they get more "balanced." How's being in Dark Side Central supposed to make you stop being such a Dark Sider? :psyduck:

sleepy.eyes
Sep 14, 2007

Like a pig in a chute.

Groovelord Neato posted:

LMAO they weren't just alwayts the Jedi? they had to be the Je'daii before? gently caress

Eh, its stupid but I can see it making some amount of sense if you squint. The name got shortened/bastardized over time. It happens.

Still stupid though. Really stupid.

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George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





What's the deal with bogan

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