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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Monkey Fracas posted:

So here's a question- did the Ohio weed thingy fail because of uptight people who don't like weed or because the measure would have instituted an immediate government-administered crony-capitalism monopoly on marijuana production and sale?

I think it was a combination of those two camps.

For the latter people it's kind of the exemplar of perfect being the enemy of good enough.

menino posted:

No it's not kosher at all. Why bring up Chicago, though, unless you're a fan of Stormfront?

Because you are being trolled bud.

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MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO
Rural whites smell.

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost

zen death robot posted:

I'd settle for elections being on a holiday or at least a weekend.

It's called "All mail in absentee voting".

It's not hard, and a few states already do it. I don't know why folks keep forgetting that this is even an option.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Solkanar512 posted:

It's called "All mail in absentee voting".

It's not hard, and a few states already do it. I don't know why folks keep forgetting that this is even an option.

Sucks if you don't have a permanent address though.

Maarek
Jun 9, 2002

Your silence only incriminates you further.

menino posted:

No it's not kosher at all. Why bring up Chicago, though, unless you're a fan of Stormfront?

Either because he is a racist maniac, pointing out hypocrisy really effectively, or is trolling this thread from least to most likely.

Solkanar512 posted:

It's called "All mail in absentee voting".

It's not hard, and a few states already do it. I don't know why folks keep forgetting that this is even an option.

When the people in charge want fewer voters it really isn't going to be an option, unfortunately.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO
Having trouble with road blocks to voting?

lol you should have thought of that before thinking you had a voice you idiot fucker

Milk Malk
Sep 17, 2015

menino posted:

Tell us more about who the Real Racists are.

No, but I can tell you who the Real Classists are!

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Milk Malk posted:

No, but I can tell you who the Real Classists are!

It's you.

menino
Jul 27, 2006

Pon De Floor

zoux posted:

I think it was a combination of those two camps.

For the latter people it's kind of the exemplar of perfect being the enemy of good enough.


Because you are being trolled bud.

I'm not even sure what that word means anymore. Taking a dump on the floor could be considered trolling too I guess, in that it doesn't take a lot of effort and gets a lot of reaction, but it's still a pile of crap on the floor.

E: anyway it's obviously not trolling as evidenced by the 'taxpayer' comment. He's a true believer. There's a whole bunch of substantive differences between being poor and black in the US and poor and white, and one difference that is relevant to US politics is that the former group doesn't elect poo poo heels to prominent office.

menino fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Nov 4, 2015

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

menino posted:

I'm not even sure what that word means anymore. Taking a dump on the floor could be considered trolling too I guess, in that it doesn't take a lot of effort and gets a lot of reaction, but it's still a pile of crap on the floor.

In this case, it means "he's a guy from RSF who has been posting intentionally dumbass things itt for weeks because people in this thread are so partisan and hysterical they cannot wait to jump all over someone no matter how transparent and obvious he's being".

Actual racists and bigots don't really post here.

Milk Malk
Sep 17, 2015


Oh the poor? They're great, except for when they vote people into office who I don't like, then they're literal scum of the earth mongrels.

BurntCornMuffin
Jan 9, 2009


Monkey Fracas posted:

So here's a question- did the Ohio weed thingy fail because of uptight people who don't like weed or because the measure would have instituted an immediate government-administered crony-capitalism monopoly on marijuana production and sale?

Yes to both. Unfortunately for the latter group, the crony capitalist bits were necessary to raise enough funding to get it on the ballot to begin with, so weed in Ohio without federal legalization is pretty hosed at this point.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

http://www.aging.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/TuringDocumentRequest.pdf

Everyone's favorite drug kingpin Martin Shkreli has been summoned before the Senate Aging Committee to explain why his drug costs so much.

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost

Trabisnikof posted:

Sucks if you don't have a permanent address though.

quote:

Non-traditional residential addresses/homeless voters

The Washington Constitution doesn’t require a "residence" as a condition of voting as long as a person meets all other registration requirements. (Article VI Section1)

Voters who lack a traditional residential address can register at the shelter, park, motor home, intersection or other identifiable location they consider their residence. This location will be used to determine which precinct they will vote in. (RCW 29A.08.112 effective 2005)

Along with your residential address, you must also provide a valid mailing address. An accurate, valid mailing address is essential in order to receive ballots and election information on time. This can include a post office box, address of a friend or relative, shelter, or general delivery at a local post office.

Do you have any other lovely responses?

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Luigi Thirty posted:

http://www.aging.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/TuringDocumentRequest.pdf

Everyone's favorite drug kingpin Martin Shkreli has been summoned before the Senate Aging Committee to explain why his drug costs so much.

you're a page late luigi!

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

Mr. Nice! posted:

you're a page late luigi!

Sorry, I was held up by the Chicago savages shooting everything in sight. Highly inconvenient.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

i saw the edit to the thread title and rushed in here to see how much Drew Curtis spoiled the race but it wasn't even close

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Solkanar512 posted:

Do you have any other lovely responses?

you seem to be ignoring the important part of your info dump:

quote:

Along with your residential address, you must also provide a valid mailing address. An accurate, valid mailing address is essential in order to receive ballots and election information on time. This can include a post office box, address of a friend or relative, shelter, or general delivery at a local post office.


So yeah, if you are homeless and have shelter access, you can vote (if you still are at the same shelter months later to get your ballot of course).

I think you may be under-informed as to the state of America's homeless if you think most/all of them have longterm access to a shelter or a friend with a mailing address.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Trabisnikof posted:

you seem to be ignoring the important part of your info dump:



So yeah, if you are homeless and have shelter access, you can vote (if you still are at the same shelter months later to get your ballot of course).

I think you may be under-informed as to the state of America's homeless if you think most/all of them have longterm access to a shelter or a friend with a mailing address.

What's the guy even arguing, that we shouldn't have voting day as a national holiday and that current ballot access is just fine thanks?

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

BurntCornMuffin posted:

Yes to both. Unfortunately for the latter group, the crony capitalist bits were necessary to raise enough funding to get it on the ballot to begin with, so weed in Ohio without federal legalization is pretty hosed at this point.

I'm 99% sure there's already a ballot initiative for 2016 to legalize weed in Ohio, this time without the oligopoly setup this initiative had.

Edit: We should be happy because a whole bunch of rich people lost money thinking that they could get it to pass yesterday.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

zoux posted:

What's the guy even arguing, that we shouldn't have voting day as a national holiday and that current ballot access is just fine thanks?

That mailing in ballots is all that is needed to prevent unequal access to the ballot box I think.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Bird in a Blender posted:

I'm 99% sure there's already a ballot initiative for 2016 to legalize weed in Ohio, this time without the oligopoly setup this initiative had.

If that's the case it makes a lot more sense why legalization advocates would vote against yesterday's measure.

Huzanko
Aug 4, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Bird in a Blender posted:

I'm 99% sure there's already a ballot initiative for 2016 to legalize weed in Ohio, this time without the oligopoly setup this initiative had.

Edit: We should be happy because a whole bunch of rich people lost money thinking that they could get it to pass yesterday.

It needs funding and signatures to get on the ballot. Neither of those will happen after beating Issue 3 just got.

Also, Ohioans Against Prohibition and Responsible Ohioans have tried before and failed before.

Ohio just threw away it's chance at legalization because of MUH FREE MARKETS! The irony...

wilderthanmild
Jun 21, 2010

Posting shit




Grimey Drawer

Bird in a Blender posted:

I'm 99% sure there's already a ballot initiative for 2016 to legalize weed in Ohio, this time without the oligopoly setup this initiative had.

If I recall it's the same ballot initiative that has failed to get enough signatures in the past. There might be others as well, but the one I've been seeing already failed once.

RO is also apparently going to "revise" their initiative and try again.

Imagine a weird election during a presidential election with multiple legalization initiatives on the ballot.

Quick edit: In reality, neither will get on the ballot realistically.

wilderthanmild fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Nov 4, 2015

wilderthanmild
Jun 21, 2010

Posting shit




Grimey Drawer

zen death robot posted:

Yeah wasn't the catch to that initiative that only 10 specific plots of land would be allowed to supply whatever was sold in state?

No, that was the one that actually managed to get enough signatures to get on the ballot this year.

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost

Trabisnikof posted:

That mailing in ballots is all that is needed to prevent unequal access to the ballot box I think.

Nope, just that they're a vast improvement over the status quo. You could have actually asked instead of doing the lovely "I'm going to assume the worst about this person posting and accuse him of not giving a poo poo about the homeless rather than giving him the benefit of the doubt and understanding that while flawed it significantly increases access to the polls to a variety of people across multiple communities".

But why do that when you can be a jackass instead?

zoux posted:

What's the guy even arguing, that we shouldn't have voting day as a national holiday and that current ballot access is just fine thanks?

I'm right here, is it too much to ask me?

Submarine Sandpaper
May 27, 2007


Noam Chomsky posted:

It needs funding and signatures to get on the ballot. Neither of those will happen after beating Issue 3 just got.

Also, Ohioans Against Prohibition and Responsible Ohioans have tried before and failed before.

Ohio just threw away it's chance at legalization because of MUH FREE MARKETS! The irony...
Yeah, it won't happen until it's federally legal now.

zen death robot posted:

Yeah wasn't the catch to that initiative that only 10 specific plots of land would be allowed to supply whatever was sold in state?
With the expectation that you could get a subplot for research/etc...

With issue 2 passing (utterly pointless, just vote no on 3) and the unforeseen abuse of that, time to find a new home maybe. :smith:

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

CroatianAlzheimers posted:

Also, the idea that Philly is the sole civilized city in the state is laughable. Philly, where they beat a friendly Canadian robot to death.

Robots are not your friend. They are no ones friend.

Also PA has many urban areas besides Phila and Pittsburgh and they vote blue consistently as do many many other counties.

Huzanko
Aug 4, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Mr. Wookums posted:

Yeah, it won't happen until it's federally legal now.
With the expectation that you could get a subplot for research/etc...

With issue 2 passing (utterly pointless, just vote no on 3) and the unforeseen abuse of that, time to find a new home maybe. :smith:

Yep. Ohio is a land of rural dumbshits, boomers with their heads up their asses, and spiteful old people - with but a few small kernels of civilization amidst it all.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Milk Malk posted:

Oh the poor? They're great, except for when they vote people into office who I don't like, then they're literal scum of the earth mongrels.

They really are, stupid cracker hicks too stupid to vote for people who will actually help them. As long as minority groups get another boot on their necks, they are happy little inbred cousin fuckers.

MariusLecter fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Nov 4, 2015

Zeno-25
Dec 5, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Why is it that other states just can't seem to get it right like in Colorado? The sheer amount of innovation and growth that has been unleashed out here is amazing. Is it that the process for putting these legalization initiatives on the ballot in other states leaves them open to fuckery by the rich and connected trying to stake out another business fiefdom?

Thankfully, Prop BB passed by nearly 70% so the schools and other state programs will have $60 million in additional funding.

Zeno-25 fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Nov 4, 2015

darthbob88
Oct 13, 2011

YOSPOS

MariusLecter posted:

Rural whites smell.

Confirmed. Citation: Grew up rural white and family still is. While I adore them, I am reluctant to actually visit because I've grown weary of picking fleas off myself while I'm sitting on their couch.

foobardog
Apr 19, 2007

There, now I can tell when you're posting.

-- A friend :)

blue squares posted:

What is it like to live in a state that isn't run by idiots?

Not so fast, my friend. While those good things are happening, our tax crank's measure to require the legislature to offer a supermajority requirement on tax increases or sharply cut the sales tax is leading.

Washington is like all other states. Conservative assholes in the countryside balanced out by queer Socialists in the cities.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

http://www.theonion.com/article/paul-ryan-discovers-half-finished-escape-tunnel-le-51786

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Solkanar512 posted:

Nope, just that they're a vast improvement over the status quo. You could have actually asked instead of doing the lovely "I'm going to assume the worst about this person posting and accuse him of not giving a poo poo about the homeless rather than giving him the benefit of the doubt and understanding that while flawed it significantly increases access to the polls to a variety of people across multiple communities".

But why do that when you can be a jackass instead?


I'm right here, is it too much to ask me?

Chill out buddy. You just started talking about how mailing ballots were so great, and I pointed out one of many disenfranchised communities by mailing ballots. Don't take things so personally. Election day being a national holiday and mail-in ballots are both two non-contridictory pro-voting policies.

Kinda hard to take your whole "benefit of the doubt" part seriously, when you won't extend that to others.



Zeno-25 posted:

Why is it that other states just can't seem to get it right like in Colorado? The sheer amount of innovation and growth that has been unleashed out here is amazing. Is it that the process for putting these legalization initiatives on the ballot in other states leaves them open to fuckery by the rich and connected trying to stake out another business fiefdom?

Thankfully, Prop BB passed by nearly 70% so the schools and other state programs will have $60 million in additional funding.


Few other states have the perfect mix of liberal and libertarian.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World
I have nothing against them personally, but rural whites vote overwhelmingly for people and things that are super bad for America all the time.

:iiam:

E: But so do affluent white urban and suburban people.

cheese eats mouse
Jul 6, 2007

A real Portlander now
Looking forward to leaving KY ASAP.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

sean10mm posted:

E: But so do affluent white urban and suburban people.

Guillotine them all. Macy's shopping, wine slurping, SUV driving, pieces of bourgeoisie shits.

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax
Kill all white people except for me and my friends and family and their friends and families and so on, but everyone else.

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Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU

greatn posted:

Kill all white people except for me and my friends and family and their friends and families and so on, but everyone else.

These GOP candidate demands are getting stranger by the day

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