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PT6A posted:What? Why? At this point, literally nothing else to bitch about. Part of me is thinking this is secret liberal strategy to demolish the NDP into irrelevance the next election - particularly if they continue on with the current leadership for any stretch.
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PT6A posted:What? Why? Because the NDP are a bunch of idiots struggling to remain relevant.
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Nov 4, 2015 21:32
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Fojar38 posted:Obama did good though. Also, Trudeau doesn't have to deal with obstinate jackasses who literally want him to fail in order to get any single loving thing done (mind you, he won't have them to blame if he fucks up, either).
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pfizerman posted:Part of me is thinking this is secret liberal strategy to demolish the NDP into irrelevance the next election - particularly if they continue on with the current leadership for any stretch. Yeah, in four years time voters are really going to think back to that time the NDP leader said a thing about the size of JT's cabinet. What an idiot! This moment will be at the top of their minds for sure.
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Nov 4, 2015 21:33
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THC posted:Yeah, in four years time voters are really going to think back to that time the NDP leader said a thing about the size of cabinet. It'll be at the top of their minds for sure. "Nothing" was an acceptable thing to say about the size of cabinet, though. Choosing something other than "nothing" shows they're going to try to whine about irrelevant nonsense to try and remain relevant.
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Nov 4, 2015 21:34
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I was initially really surprised Leslie wasn't picked for Defence, but after reading Najjan's bio I think it's a great idea. Also, if Kent Hehr is as visible and personable as a minister as he was on the campaign trail I think he'll be liked a lot by veterans.
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PT6A posted:"Nothing" was an acceptable thing to say about the size of cabinet, though. Choosing something other than "nothing" shows they're going to try to whine about irrelevant nonsense to try and remain relevant.
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Nov 4, 2015 21:35
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THC posted:Yeah, in four years time voters are really going to think back to that time the NDP leader said a thing about the size of JT's cabinet. It'll be at the top of their minds for sure. Don't be dense. I'm referring to the long term strategy of cabinet structure and political messaging
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I know he's a bit of a Liberal insider but I think McCallum is a good choice for immigration minister. I remember reading this back in June. He does seem to care a lot about immigration issues.
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Nov 4, 2015 21:36
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We better just shut up you guys, let we be called whiners. We're only allowed to discuss things the establishment deems important, and only at the acceptable times.
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Nov 4, 2015 21:36
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El Scotch posted:I was initially really surprised Leslie wasn't picked for Defence, but after reading Najjan's bio I think it's a great idea. I laughed at the response I heard (second hand) from someone close to Leslie. There is a definite "military elite" in this country. And they are white. It'll be interesting to see what impact the new guy has. It he's implementing Leslie's plan anyway... He was (in addition to being actual military) a full time reservist if I'm not mistaken, something Leslie recommended mostly doing away with.
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Nov 4, 2015 21:38
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PT6A's right, Mulcair's grasping at straws. I can see how the NDP are in no hurry to replace him, and he is very, very good at Not Necessarily An Answer Period, but I don't see a future where he is the leader of this party and they are effective at anything but splitting votes.
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THC posted:We better just shut up you guys, let we be called whiners. We're only allowed to talk about things the government considers important, and only at the acceptable times. Christ you're salty about the NDP being a useless and irrelevant force in this election. EDIT: Nice ninja edit. Here's what the original post was: quote:We better just shut up you guys, or else the elder sage PT6A might call us whiners Why don't you just go gently caress yourself? PT6A fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Nov 4, 2015 |
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Nov 4, 2015 21:39
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flakeloaf posted:One would think that a person paranoid about Muslims would welcome a Sikh to the top. Well, Guru Nanek's best friend was Muslim, so the founder of the religion was a fellow traveller. Pity Sohi doesn't wear a turban. The meltdown from those on the wrong side of the 1980s "no turbans in the mess" nonsense would be delicious. Listening to the Minister of Justice's CV my first reaction was "I had no idea someone like her existed!"
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You loving idiots know what the partition of India is right
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PT6A posted:Christ you're salty about the NDP being a useless and irrelevant force in this election.
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Nov 4, 2015 21:41
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Do you have any particular complaints or are you just complaining so you can be sun news orange
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Can't wait to hear how we're whiny and salty and grasping for relevance when actual policies come out and they are criticized for any reason whatsoever.
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Nov 4, 2015 21:45
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THC posted:You're really mad that everyone isn't obediently fawning over the shiny new cabinet. Very diversity, such women you guyz~ No I'm not? I have yet to hear any criticism beyond "there are 5 people too many" or "why not so many men this time around? Merit!" If you'd like to criticize any of the cabinet appointments, and actually have a reason to do so, please go ahead at your leisure.
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Slightly Toasted posted:Do you have any particular complaints or are you just complaining so you can be sun news orange Capri Sun News
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THC posted:Can't wait to hear how we're whiny and salty and grasping for relevance when actual policies come out and they are criticized for any reason whatsoever. are you sobbing to yourself in between keystrokes because that's what it sounds like pop some zoloft and chill out, bro
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Hexigrammus posted:Well, Guru Nanek's best friend was Muslim, so the founder of the religion was a fellow traveller. She was in that tight Vancouver race where leadnow endorsed the NDP candidate (a friend of the leadnow founder). Pretty cool story about how Trudeau heard her speak and afterwards chased her to run for them.
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Nov 4, 2015 21:48
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THC posted:Can't wait to hear how we're whiny and salty and grasping for relevance when actual policies come out and they are criticized for any reason whatsoever. The opposition's job is to hold the government to account and push its policy goals. Ergo, actual criticism of policy based on arguments is not "whiny." Complaining about how the cabinet is slightly large is not that.
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Nov 4, 2015 21:50
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Trudeau promised a small cabinet and ended up naming a still pretty large one. That's worth pointing out. You're just mad that big mean old Mulcair tried to ruin your special day. And/or you'll take any opportunity to reiterate for the hundredth time your dislike of him.
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THC posted:It's perfectly legitimate to say Trudeau promised a small cabinet and gave us a still pretty large one. You're just mad that big mean old Mulcair tried to ruin your special day. Yes, but it would be customary to provide some reason as to why Trudeau changing his mind on cabinet size is a negative thing. Politicians being able and willing to change their mind in the face of compelling reasons is something to be encouraged, not criticized. Unless you're some sort of ideologue or partisan.... oh, wait...
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THC posted:Trudeau promised a small cabinet and ended up naming a still pretty large one. That's worth pointing out. You're just mad that big mean old Mulcair tried to ruin your special day. dude, knock it the gently caress off. You are being a salty whiny baby. You usually aren't. Walk away from the computer. And in ohter news Bob Rae, interim leader of my heart. TBF, I really like him on a personal level. When he was itnerim leader, he was giving a press conference, was informed by his aid about my cancer, and immediately stopped and called my mother, so, yeah, he's aces in my book.
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Do you think a single person voted on the issue of cabinet size? He probably made the promise because he didn't expect to win so many seats, now that he has it would be silly to waste the talent. Complaining about it absolutely comes across as grasping at straws and hyper-partisan.
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Nov 4, 2015 21:59
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Omg our health minister is an actual Doctor what is this witchcraft But I guess the real question is does she have merit she hasn't even been in government as long as Trudeau
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Nov 4, 2015 21:59
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So a C.D. Howe acolyte got appointed to the Finance portfolio? Sad, but not surprising.
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THC posted:Trudeau promised a small cabinet and ended up naming a still pretty large one. That's worth pointing out. You're just mad that big mean old Mulcair tried to ruin your special day. And/or you'll take any opportunity to reiterate for the hundredth time your dislike of him. Not really, especially not considering his other much more important goal of gender parity and representation of different communities. This attack comes off as petty.
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Slightly Toasted posted:Omg our health minister is an actual Doctor what is this witchcraft No witchcraft was the last guy
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I'm glad our new Finance Minister is a man who inherited a billion dollar enterprise from his father. ~merit~
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I heard he's ~genuinely concerned~ about income inequality.
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It'd be nice to someday have a finance minister who wasn't an obvious fox in the henhouse.
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Jordan7hm posted:She was in that tight Vancouver race where leadnow endorsed the NDP candidate (a friend of the leadnow founder). And I'm confused about who's who - the new Minister of Defense is Harjit Sajjan and he is a turban wearer. Today is a very good day.
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Nov 4, 2015 22:24
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PT6A posted:Also, Trudeau doesn't have to deal with obstinate jackasses who literally want him to fail in order to get any single loving thing done (mind you, he won't have them to blame if he fucks up, either). There has been a real debate about whether or not Obama could have enacted better health care legislation while his party controlled Congress. But under our system there's nothing to stop a majority government from doing what it wants beyond public outcry or the senate stalling something for a little while. So it's entirely on Trudeau to get things done.
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I hadn't caught the notice until now, but we apparently won't have results for the Barrie—Springwater—Oro-Medonte recount until Friday afternoon.
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