USPOL Nov: I would've preferred Huckabee have said nothing at all

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > USPOL Nov: I would've preferred Huckabee have said nothing at all

«‹›246 »

Ogmius815: Aug 25, 2005; centrism is a hell of a drug

I wish I people would stop writing that unique Pennsylvanian word as "yinz". That doesn't really capture the phonetic nature of the word. It's more "you-ins".

# ? Nov 4, 2015 21:39

Adbot: ADBOT LOVES YOU

# ? May 28, 2024 15:49

ElegantFugue: Jun 5, 2012

Petr posted:

Oh hey that Petr guy sure is dumb for being worried.

Just calm down, dude. Yeah it's not the best but it's not like they totally screwed the pooch or anything.

# ? Nov 4, 2015 21:39

pathetic little tramp: Dec 12, 2005; by Hillary Clinton's assassins; Fallen Rib

Ogmius815 posted:

I wish I people would stop writing that unique Pennsylvanian word as "yinz". That doesn't really capture the phonetic nature of the word. It's more "you-ins".

I've always preferred Yins or Youns, I don't see why there has to be a z involved at all.

# ? Nov 4, 2015 21:40

trilobite terror: Oct 20, 2007; BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

highme posted:

Nordstrom only has a couple of sales a year and an occasional clearance rack. But they also have an entire chain dedicated to off loading past season's merch.

I'll see myself to the guillotine.

If it makes you feel any better, a disturbingly high fraction of the clothes in any given Nordstrom Rack store are returns. Nordstrom's sales/returns policy is super lax and people exploit it like crazy. IIRC it's part of why they started Rack in the first place.

If you're half sharp you'll notice the occasional food stain when shopping at Nordstrom Rack.

JT Jag posted:

I think one potential way for the Democrats to make inroads in rural areas is to, as a party, be more religious. Frame their arguments on income inequality in the sense that it is 'Jesus-like' and how allowing widespread poverty goes against His teachings.

Basically, the Democrats gave up on the religious vote after Carter lost to Reagan, which I think was a mistake. Carter was the last Democrat to win over rural voters for a reason.

This fails to account for a number of things, chiefly the Progressive/Conservative split in Christian America that has historically always existed regarding race relations and income inequality. Depending on its location and parish demographic, a 19th century church could either be a bastion for abolitionism or the propaganda arm of the southern slave economy. Same thing goes for any of the myriad civil rights movements/backlashes of the 20th and 21st centuries. You can even see some echoes of this in the way that different Christian groups on both sides of the political aisle have behaved during the Great Gay Ascendancy.

The Southern Christian that the Democratic Party lost in the 60s and 70s was never going to come back into the fold because the actual relative godliness of the candidates came (and continues to come) at a distant second to how well they reinforced the established worldview.

This is why Sunday-school teacher Carter still gets lumped in with atheist ruskie Bolsheviks by people who have no problem voting for a dude who makes his mistresses get secret abortions but ticks the right "gently caress the thieving degenerate parasites" buttons.

While you're right to point out Christianity as a possible bridge (and one that has definitely been used in the past), I think you'll find that the battle lines have been set among older people. MLK could use the Bible to preach for equality because there already existed an audience for that sort of message. But it certainly didn't exist around the churches that hosted Klan meetings. Either you're already a Christian who'll vote for a Democrat or you aren't, and no amount of "but Jesus said this..." is going to change that.

And while there are definitely a sizable number of young (<35) people who would consider themselves to be both "very Christian" and socially/politically Liberal, the trend here lies overwhelmingly toward secularization- arguably a lot more so than any time in the past.

Leftism has been tied to secularism since Marx (although it wasn't uncommon to see churches flirt with socialist rhetoric pre-WW2) and our relationships with religion-policing communist states pretty much set that relationship in stone. In an era where close to 30% of US adults under the age of 35 self-report as "not very/not at all religious" and religious affiliation has been the major differentiator in our biggest recent civil liberties disputes, young liberals are much likelier to just reject religious labels than they are to self-identify as deeply Christian.

Rhesus Pieces posted:

Every time I almost feel sorry for this guy I think of his "work harder and longer, proles" solution to economic growth, his proposed nightmarish foreign policy all-star team, and quotes like this revealing how much of a heartless rear end in a top hat he really is and I just root for the knife in his chest to be twisted further.

When he first ran for FL governor in '94 (and lost) Jeb at one point said that "we don't need to make another class of victims" out of LGBTQ people and AIDS patients.

He's a piece of poo poo.

# ? Nov 4, 2015 21:40

Goatse James Bond: Mar 28, 2010; If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Mr Jaunts posted:

At a Q&A in New Hampshire today, Rubio was asked, "Who would you like to have a beer with who is not a politician?� His answer?

Malala Yousafzai, Nobel Peace Prize winner, and noted Muslim teenager

My answer would be Peter Watts, misanthrope, immigration and customs criminal, and noted Canadian. One more reason I am not running for office, I suppose.

Edit: alternatively, Henry Kissinger.

# ? Nov 4, 2015 21:43

Sir Kodiak: May 14, 2007

Ogmius815 posted:

I wish I people would stop writing that unique Pennsylvanian word as "yinz". That doesn't really capture the phonetic nature of the word. It's more "you-ins".

The gently caress it is.

# ? Nov 4, 2015 21:44

Pillowpants: Aug 5, 2006

So,

In my city I've been waging a completely fake over the top write in campaign to become dictator of the city. I've spent two months talking about making rivers run with chocolate, annexing surrounding towns, deciding leash law disputes with duels etc etc etc. while at the same time asking everyone to stop name calling each other. I've been doing this on all Facebook with photoshopped signs and long rants every few days.

Last night, this got me elected to the Housing Authority in my city and I came in second for Planning Board, and got 12 votes for city council.

# ? Nov 4, 2015 21:47

Petr: Oct 3, 2000

RuanGacho posted:

Do you really want to be the next ?

That was about the outcome of a specific election. This is about the future of progressivism in America, which is clearly doom and oblivion and calamity.

Edit: Also, didn't he become a Republican? I can promise you I won't become a Republican.

# ? Nov 4, 2015 21:48

A Shitty Reporter: Oct 29, 2012; Dinosaur Gum

Pillowpants posted:

So,

In my city I've been waging a completely fake over the top write in campaign to become dictator of the city. I've spent two months talking about making rivers run with chocolate, annexing surrounding towns, deciding leash law disputes with duels etc etc etc. while at the same time asking everyone to stop name calling each other. I've been doing this on all Facebook with photoshopped signs and long rants every few days.

Last night, this got me elected to the Housing Authority in my city and I came in second for Planning Board, and got 12 votes for city council.

Congratulations on completion of phase one, comrade.

# ? Nov 4, 2015 21:48

pathetic little tramp: Dec 12, 2005; by Hillary Clinton's assassins; Fallen Rib

Pillowpants posted:

So,

In my city I've been waging a completely fake over the top write in campaign to become dictator of the city. I've spent two months talking about making rivers run with chocolate, annexing surrounding towns, deciding leash law disputes with duels etc etc etc. while at the same time asking everyone to stop name calling each other. I've been doing this on all Facebook with photoshopped signs and long rants every few days.

Last night, this got me elected to the Housing Authority in my city and I came in second for Planning Board, and got 12 votes for city council.

Here's a fun thing to try: Always side with the tenants in housing disputes and see how much the landlords' group spends to run against you next time!

# ? Nov 4, 2015 21:50

Toph Bei Fong: Feb 29, 2008

RuanGacho posted:

You can fall into this and declare that our fate is inevitable or you can rage against the dying of the light.

I personally find it all very odd because while people will generally be the same, society will not. My calculus in the culture war is not weekly or monthly or quarterly or yearly, its generational. The idea that we're in for another 30 years of Republican rule seems quite absurd to me unless we're convinced that millenials will have no political power or influence until they're in their 60's.

A decade ago we hadn't had a black president, let alone considered it a real possibility, LBGT was a lot more behind the eightball and the rich were still unquestionably good.

We can't change the hideous beauty and ignorance of humanity but we can in time improve society and quantifiably give the next generation a little more equality, a little more freedom, a little more prosperity. It is up to us to be better than those who came before us.

And if they keep gutting all the health and social services, that next generation is going to come into power even quicker than they think :v:

# ? Nov 4, 2015 21:50

SubponticatePoster: Aug 9, 2004; Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.; Slippery Tilde

Ashcans posted:

This is amazing

Some children just want to watch the world burn, and I guess roast some marshmallows while it happens.

To be fair, that applies to a slice of D&D as well :v:

Pillowpants posted:

So,

In my city I've been waging a completely fake over the top write in campaign to become dictator of the city. I've spent two months talking about making rivers run with chocolate, annexing surrounding towns, deciding leash law disputes with duels etc etc etc. while at the same time asking everyone to stop name calling each other. I've been doing this on all Facebook with photoshopped signs and long rants every few days.

Last night, this got me elected to the Housing Authority in my city and I came in second for Planning Board, and got 12 votes for city council.

Well, unlike a lot of people in government you actually have experience in making budgets!

SubponticatePoster fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Nov 4, 2015

# ? Nov 4, 2015 21:52

Goatse James Bond: Mar 28, 2010; If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Pillowpants posted:

So,

In my city I've been waging a completely fake over the top write in campaign to become dictator of the city. I've spent two months talking about making rivers run with chocolate, annexing surrounding towns, deciding leash law disputes with duels etc etc etc. while at the same time asking everyone to stop name calling each other. I've been doing this on all Facebook with photoshopped signs and long rants every few days.

Last night, this got me elected to the Housing Authority in my city and I came in second for Planning Board, and got 12 votes for city council.

This is genuinely inspirational.

# ? Nov 4, 2015 21:54

crazy cloud: Nov 7, 2012; by Cyrano4747; Lipstick Apathy

Pillowpants posted:

So,

In my city I've been waging a completely fake over the top write in campaign to become dictator of the city. I've spent two months talking about making rivers run with chocolate, annexing surrounding towns, deciding leash law disputes with duels etc etc etc. while at the same time asking everyone to stop name calling each other. I've been doing this on all Facebook with photoshopped signs and long rants every few days.

Last night, this got me elected to the Housing Authority in my city and I came in second for Planning Board, and got 12 votes for city council.

Go mad with power immediately.

# ? Nov 4, 2015 21:58

Alec Bald Snatch: Sep 12, 2012; by exmarx

JT Jag posted:

I think one potential way for the Democrats to make inroads in rural areas is to, as a party, be more religious. Frame their arguments on income inequality in the sense that it is 'Jesus-like' and how allowing widespread poverty goes against His teachings.

They already do this it's called black churches.

# ? Nov 4, 2015 21:59

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

comes along bort posted:

They already do this it's called black churches.

And Democrats do ok in rural areas that have black churches.

# ? Nov 4, 2015 22:00

pathetic little tramp: Dec 12, 2005; by Hillary Clinton's assassins; Fallen Rib

JT Jag posted:

I think one potential way for the Democrats to make inroads in rural areas is to, as a party, be more religious. Frame their arguments on income inequality in the sense that it is 'Jesus-like' and how allowing widespread poverty goes against His teachings.

Basically, the Democrats gave up on the religious vote after Carter lost to Reagan, which I think was a mistake. Carter was the last Democrat to win over rural voters for a reason.

Fred Clark for President.

# ? Nov 4, 2015 22:02

Crowsbeak: Oct 9, 2012; by Azathoth; Lipstick Apathy

Monkey Fracas posted:

I don't know if it would really help but maybe we could attach a car battery to the skeleton of Huey Long and put it on TV in campaign ads? Can't be too much worse than the current D effort in deep-red southern districts.

Well I generally don't like populism, its still better then the neoliberal thugs that are currently in office, and anything to force them out is acceptable.

# ? Nov 4, 2015 22:05

Alec Bald Snatch: Sep 12, 2012; by exmarx

Trabisnikof posted:

And Democrats do ok in rural areas that have black churches.

Well sure if there's enough black people to vote for Democrats.

# ? Nov 4, 2015 22:09

Bassetking: Feb 20, 2008; And it is, it is a glorious thing, to be a Basset King!

Crowsbeak posted:

Well I generally don't like populism, its still better then the neoliberal thugs that are currently in office, and anything to force them out is acceptable.

Pillowpants posted:

So,

In my city I've been waging a completely fake over the top write in campaign to become dictator of the city. I've spent two months talking about making rivers run with chocolate, annexing surrounding towns, deciding leash law disputes with duels etc etc etc. while at the same time asking everyone to stop name calling each other. I've been doing this on all Facebook with photoshopped signs and long rants every few days.

Last night, this got me elected to the Housing Authority in my city and I came in second for Planning Board, and got 12 votes for city council.

I think we have our roadmap.

# ? Nov 4, 2015 22:12

Hollismason: Jun 30, 2007; An alright dude.

Pillowpants posted:

So,

In my city I've been waging a completely fake over the top write in campaign to become dictator of the city. I've spent two months talking about making rivers run with chocolate, annexing surrounding towns, deciding leash law disputes with duels etc etc etc. while at the same time asking everyone to stop name calling each other. I've been doing this on all Facebook with photoshopped signs and long rants every few days.

Last night, this got me elected to the Housing Authority in my city and I came in second for Planning Board, and got 12 votes for city council.

You can't just say this and not post a sign.

# ? Nov 4, 2015 22:23

JT Jag: Aug 30, 2009; #1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver

Bassetking posted:

I think we have our roadmap.

The DNC needs to see this.

# ? Nov 4, 2015 22:25

Dapper_Swindler: Feb 14, 2012; Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/04/polit...linkId=18504600

well rubio has done and hosed himself. at least in the eyes of the crazies.

# ? Nov 4, 2015 22:27

BI NOW GAY LATER: Jan 17, 2008; So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

JT Jag posted:

The DNC needs to see this.

it would be better than what dws has done

# ? Nov 4, 2015 22:30

Petr: Oct 3, 2000

Dapper_Swindler posted:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/04/polit...linkId=18504600

well rubio has done and hosed himself. at least in the eyes of the crazies.

Didn't Rubio's parents flee from Batista's government?

# ? Nov 4, 2015 22:30

JT Jag: Aug 30, 2009; #1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver

Going full Santa Claus and promising extravagant things with no basis in reality would win elections.

# ? Nov 4, 2015 22:31

Islam is the Lite Rock FM: Jul 27, 2007; by exmarx

JT Jag posted:

Going full Santa Claus and promising extravagant things with no basis in reality would win elections.

So Trump will win?

# ? Nov 4, 2015 22:33

Dr. Tough: Oct 22, 2007

Petr posted:

Didn't Rubio's parents flee from Batista's government?

iirc they didn't actually flee from anyone, they just immigrated to the US in '56.

# ? Nov 4, 2015 22:34

JT Jag: Aug 30, 2009; #1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver

DemeaninDemon posted:

So Trump will win?

Trump is also promising to take things away from several demographics the Republicans need in order to win, which is what will bury him.

# ? Nov 4, 2015 22:34

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

Petr posted:

Didn't Rubio's parents flee from Batista's government?

They left in '56 to seek better fortunes. All his ads during his Senate campaign said he left in '59 to flee Castro.

# ? Nov 4, 2015 22:34

BI NOW GAY LATER: Jan 17, 2008; So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

Rubio... lied?

# ? Nov 4, 2015 22:41

Pick: Jul 19, 2009; Nap Ghost

highme posted:

Nordstrom only has a couple of sales a year and an occasional clearance rack. But they also have an entire chain dedicated to off loading past season's merch.

I'll see myself to the guillotine.

They also just gave out a really loving sweet dividend payment :swoon:

# ? Nov 4, 2015 22:41

Mitt Romney: Nov 9, 2005; dumb and bad

BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

I don't know if it was itt or in dadchat that i mentioned it, but here's the piece about the Democrats forming plans to reassert themselves at the state and national level: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...thing-about-it/

And other one that tell you to calm the gently caress down: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2015/11/04/how-badly-has-the-obama-era-damaged-the-democratic-party/

The Brownstein article he links to is also really good.

A GOP president is really the only thing the will motivate democratic voters in non-presidential election years in the next 5 years.

Nothing of substance is in the Democratic plans for winning state level races in non-presidential election years (especially not in that article and not from what I hear from them at events). That article about how they totally have their poo poo together and have been focusing on governor races now was written 2 weeks before last night's crushing loss in KY, an election that was probably considered a foregone conclusion at the time of the article.

If Clinton wins, 2018 will be another 2014 and 2010 and the Democratic party will have even worse representation heading into 2020 redistricting. Pretending like the DNC and DGA have some kind of magical 4-year strategy to fix everything is a bit wishful.

# ? Nov 4, 2015 22:44

JT Jag: Aug 30, 2009; #1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver

Crosspost from the Football Funhouse: The Pentagon paid sports teams millions for patriotic events.

# ? Nov 4, 2015 22:45

BI NOW GAY LATER: Jan 17, 2008; So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

Mitt Romney posted:

A GOP president is really the only thing the will motivate democratic voters in non-presidential election years in the next 5 years.

Nothing of substance is in the Democratic plans for winning state level races in non-presidential election years (especially not in that article and not from what I hear from them at events). That article about how they totally have their poo poo together and have been focusing on governor races now was written 2 weeks before last night's crushing loss in KY, an election that was probably considered a foregone conclusion at the time of the article.

If Clinton wins, 2018 will be another 2014 and 2010 and the Democratic party will have even worse representation heading into 2020 redistricting. Pretending like the DNC and DGA have some kind of magical 4-year strategy to fix everything is a bit wishful.

You know, we shouldn't even try. It's already written in stone.

Really, we should just accept that Republicans are going to win and start voting for them.

(And no, Sargent was really skeptical of Conway winning easily or at all.)

# ? Nov 4, 2015 22:46

Dapper_Swindler: Feb 14, 2012; Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Petr posted:

Didn't Rubio's parents flee from Batista's government?

i am not sure. but he is smart enought to know that commie and socialist are not the same thing, which is probably poison to the base.

# ? Nov 4, 2015 22:46

zoux: Apr 28, 2006

BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

You know, we shouldn't even try. It's already written in stone.

Really, we should just accept that Republicans are going to win and start voting for them.

Would be nice to be on the winning team though....

# ? Nov 4, 2015 22:47

pathetic little tramp: Dec 12, 2005; by Hillary Clinton's assassins; Fallen Rib

JT Jag posted:

Crosspost from the Football Funhouse: The Pentagon paid sports teams millions for patriotic events.

Hahaha, literally what they did in the Soviet Union.

# ? Nov 4, 2015 22:50

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

You know, we shouldn't even try. It's already written in stone.

Really, we should just accept that Republicans are going to win and start voting for them.

(And no, Sargent was really skeptical of Conway winning easily or at all.)

Let's just check my email...

Democratic Party emails posted:

ALL HOPE IS LOST
REPUBLICANS WIN
Planned Parenthood DEFUNDED
Social Security SLASHED
Social Security checks GONE
Obamacare GONE

# ? Nov 4, 2015 22:51

Adbot: ADBOT LOVES YOU

# ? May 28, 2024 15:49

Shageletic: Jul 25, 2007

Dapper_Swindler posted:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/04/polit...linkId=18504600

well rubio has done and hosed himself. at least in the eyes of the crazies.

Well he really jebbed that question.

# ? Nov 4, 2015 22:53

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > USPOL Nov: I would've preferred Huckabee have said nothing at all

«‹›246 »