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Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Taear posted:

I think this one is silly because both of those words already exist. In fact I don't see it very often with a hyphen anyway.
Why bother putting it in the dictionary when people understand both words in the context?

It'd be better to include a new definition for 'marathon', I hear that more often than 'binge-watch'.

e: 1928 - Women get equal suffrage to men.

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baka kaba: Jul 19, 2003; PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
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TACD posted:

Transgender wasn't already a word??

And ghosting, shaming and manspreading are verbs

I think it's just the hottest word memes of 2015

# ? Nov 5, 2015 13:01

Manic_Misanthrope: Jul 1, 2010

Jippa posted:

After googling I just found out that "In nature, unsaturated fatty acids generally have cis as opposed to trans configurations". That just sounds weird.

It's about the double covelant bond, and it's why trans fatty acids are dangerous. Body's got no real way of digesting them effectively.

# ? Nov 5, 2015 13:04

LemonDrizzle: Mar 28, 2012; neoliberal shithead

Jippa posted:

After googling I just found out that "In nature, unsaturated fatty acids generally have cis as opposed to trans configurations". That just sounds weird.

Cis and trans are standard chemical prefixes used to describe the relative positions of substituents with respect to a ring or a bond that does not permit free rotation. The more you know, etc. etc.

# ? Nov 5, 2015 13:04

Gonzo McFee: Jun 19, 2010

Coohoolin posted:

I'm back from London and I'm happy to report a few coppers got pelted, the Guardian picked up on our "David Cameron hosed a pig" chant, pig loving was a big theme, and in conclusion fees, tories and coppers are all bad.

Oh and in case you see the bullshit statement, they were ABSOLUTELY kettling people, mates of mine got caught in it and one was arrested. ACAB.

You must have done something right, Dan Hodges is arguing in the Telegraph to remove the right to protest from anti austerity types because they're "violent".

https://t.co/E8EKfVZ4CU

quote:

Tonight, there is going to be a licensed riot in central London. We know there will be a riot, because the Metropolitan police service � whose job it is to prevent riots � have told us there will be one.

Yesterday, Chief Superintendent Pippa Mills, of the Metropolitan Police told the Telegraph, "We will always facilitate peaceful protest and have a strong history of doing so. However, over the last few years this event has seen high levels of anti-social behaviour, crime and disorder. This year we have strong reason to believe that peaceful protest is the last thing on the minds of many of the people who will come along. It is unacceptable that a small minority should believe they have the right to break the law, harass people, damage buildings and attack police officers�.

Strong words. The problem is that the small minority do have that right. And they have been granted that right by the Metropolitan Police. The �protestors� � the self-styled anti-austerity group Anonymous, who are marching against capitalism � asked for the right to demonstrate in Trafalgar Square from 5.00 pm to 9.00 pm. �No�, said the police. You can only demonstrate there from 6.00 p.m. to 9.00 pm. Or, in effect, you can only bring disorder and chaos to western Europe�s most vibrant capital city for three hours, instead of four.

I actually have a lot of sympathy for the police. In these situations they are damned if they do, and damned if they don�t. Ban the demonstration and they are accused of facilitating the establishment of a police state. Allow it to proceed � with the inevitable violence that follows � and they are condemned for their inaction.

Which is why we need to start to take these decisions out of their hands. Public, commentators, politicians. We have to start banging on about the right to protest a lot less, and start banging on about the right to law and order a lot more.

Every time there is a �democratic protest� in Britain now � especially if the target of that protest is that catechism �austerity� � it is accompanied by intimidation and violence. We saw it at the Tory conference in Manchester. We saw it yesterday during the student protests. We will see it again tonight.

People have to right to protest peacefully. But they also have an obligation to protest peacefully. And if they can�t meet that obligation � and it is increasingly apparent that many people cannot � then their right to protest has to be removed from them.

�But, but, but�, wail the organisers of these protests, �it wasn�t that bad. There were only a handful of arrests. It was only a few idiots. The vast majority of the marchers were peaceful�.

Tough. There are too many arrests. There are too many idiots. Not enough marchers are acting peacefully.

If, as the TUC and the National Unions of Students claim, it is only a small, unrepresentative number of people causing the disruption at their events then it should be simple to marshal them in such a way that they cannot cause disruption. But they don�t.

In a democracy we have to strike a balance between the right to political expression and the right to live in an ordered society. And we are not striking that balance.

There was disruption and disorder in central London yesterday. There will be disruption and disorder in central London again tonight. It may inconvenient for those who would like us all to live in a state of perpetual agitation, but people actually have to live and work in this city. And they have a right to do so free from continuing intimidation from a group of juvenile � invariably-privileged � delinquents.

�We cannot ban these people, it will be an assault on our democracy,� the civil libertarians storm. No. The people who are assaulting democracy are the people who are kicking police officers in the head, attacking women because they have �posh� accents, vandalizing cars and shops, and bringing our transport system to a standstill.

Let�s imagine for a second if tonight�s �demonstration� was being organized not by anti-austerity protestors, but anti-immigration protestors. If thousands of them spent the night rampaging across London, attacking people who they thought had �the wrong� accent, assaulting the police, and claiming their actions were on behalf of Britain�s silent majority. You wouldn�t be able to hear yourself think over the clamor of the liberal progressives demanding they be banned from our streets.

And they would be right to make that clamour. They should be banned. Just as tonight�s demonstration should have been banned.

I�ve written this before, but it needs repeating. It may grate with some people, but we had a massive expression of our right to protest in this country back in May. Tens of millions of people took to the streets to make their voices heard. It was called a general election. If people want to protest against the result of that election, that�s fine. If they want to try and convince people to speak with a different voice at the next election, that�s fine too.

But what they can�t do is what we�re going to see tonight, which is try and kick and punch and scream and smash until they get their way. Because if they do, than that will represent the ultimate assault on our liberty.

It is vital we protect our right to free speech. It is vital we protect our right to protest. Which is precisely why tonight�s �demonstration� should not be taking place at all.

The Million Mask March, where anti-establishment protesters don Guy Fawkes masks in hundreds of cities around the world, has been described as �the largest world protest�, at least by its own website.

It is organised by Anonymous, the anarchic �hacktivist� network linked with cyber-attacks against governments including the US and Israel, multi-national corporations such as PayPal and Visa, child porn websites, the Church of Scientology, the British National Party and defenders of media copyright, among others.

The movement is also closely identified with the Occupy protests, Wikileaks, and the Arab Spring.

Last year, 2014, may have been the largest Million Mask March so far, with protests in 481 cities. London�s has always been one of the largest since its inception in 2012.

The UK Anonymous website describes the march on Parliament as a �protest against austerity � the infringement of our rights � mass surveillance � war crimes � corrupt politicians.�

Another site advertising the march links to a scene from the film, 'V for Vendetta', in which a hooded figure, wearing a Guy Fawkes mask, calls for an uprising on the streets of London against the dystopian authoritarian British government.

It�s not difficult to see why Russell Brand, who calls in his latest book for a revolution against as the capitalist system, might sympathise with Anonymous.

But the movement is avowedly loose and leaderless. It makes a virtue of dissent. There were both cheers and cat-calls for Brand as he addressed the London crowd, while some ignored him when he asked them to �not get arrested�.

One protester asked: "Why�s he here? Shouldn�t he be doing interviews with the BBC or something?"

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serious gaylord: Sep 16, 2007; what.

If manspreading is now a thing can we make femalebagging one too?

# ? Nov 5, 2015 13:07

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

serious gaylord posted:

If manspreading is now a thing can we make femalebagging one too?

Womanbagging. Using man/female instead of man/woman or male/female is an MRA thing.

Or we could just call it manbagging and have both manspreading and manbagging mean 'human' as in statesman, milkman, etc.

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communism bitch: Apr 24, 2009

sitting next to a woman on a train is rape

# ? Nov 5, 2015 13:11

serious gaylord: Sep 16, 2007; what.

Guavanaut posted:

Womanbagging. Using man/female instead of man/woman or male/female is an MRA thing.

Or we could just call it manbagging and have both manspreading and manbagging mean 'human' as in statesman, milkman, etc.

Womanbagging is now a thing. The act of putting bags on seats and not moving them when the train/bus is full.

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Trickjaw: Jun 23, 2005; Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene

Is it Dictator month at Downing street?

# ? Nov 5, 2015 13:19

baka kaba: Jul 19, 2003; PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Gonzo McFee posted:

You must have done something right, Dan Hodges is arguing in the Telegraph to remove the right to protest from anti austerity types because they're "violent".

https://t.co/E8EKfVZ4CU

Liberals.txt

Ministry of Freedom poo poo aside, lol at "shut up and accept the result of the election" delivered with no irony

# ? Nov 5, 2015 13:23

Phoon: Apr 23, 2010

I think the Tories might be gearing up to try to take control over birmingham council from the councillors using the kerslake review. The panel Pickles appointed has sent a threatening letter to the not yet elected council leader.

# ? Nov 5, 2015 13:28

feedmegin: Jul 30, 2008

baka kaba posted:

Holy poo poo, I was reading that thinking uhhh this sounds like Heart of Darkness and then you follow up with that last bit

I'm gonna imagine that guy shooting him in the style of Indiana Jones

That guy literally was one of the inspirations for the book, according to Wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurtz_%28Heart_of_Darkness%29

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communism bitch: Apr 24, 2009

I've got a bundle of papers here proposing to establish an "Agricultural Training Home" for the unemployed of London which the founders expect will "provide [�] the means of testing the genuineness of the desire for work of the Unemployed". They are deliberately choosing to buy bad, unproductive land because the actual agricultural output of the establishment is not a concern at all, and they definitely don't want to impact on the good, profitable farms already in the area. They just want to drag 200 unemployed people out of london to live in barracks, work them 12 hours a day and pay them 7 shillings (�35/week in modern money) to prove their willingness to work.

Has anybody got Iain Duncan Smith's phone number?

# ? Nov 5, 2015 13:34

Trickjaw: Jun 23, 2005; Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene

Oberleutnant posted:

I've got a bundle of papers here proposing to establish an "Agricultural Training Home" for the unemployed of London which the founders expect will "provide [�] the means of testing the genuineness of the desire for work of the Unemployed". They are deliberately choosing to buy bad, unproductive land because the actual agricultural output of the establishment is not a concern at all, and they definitely don't want to impact on the good, profitable farms already in the area. They just want to drag 200 unemployed people out of london to live in barracks, work them 12 hours a day and pay them 7 shillings (�35/week in modern money) to prove their willingness to work.

Has anybody got Iain Duncan Smith's phone number?

You don't need his phone number, just say his name thrice.

# ? Nov 5, 2015 13:39

Pesmerga: Aug 1, 2005; So nice to eat you

baka kaba posted:

Ministry of Freedom poo poo aside, lol at "shut up and accept the result of the election" delivered with no irony

Dan Hodges is a professional poo poo stirrer whose only relevance is being a useful idiot to right wing media. If it wasn't for who his mother is, they wouldn't give him the time of day. He's a bit like Nick Cohen, essentially a hired gun to attack the left because of their backgrounds.

# ? Nov 5, 2015 13:39

Regarde Aduck: Oct 19, 2012; c l o u d k i t t e n; Grimey Drawer

It's only going to get worse Hodges. Lock your door and hope for the best you little poo poo.

# ? Nov 5, 2015 13:42

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Oberleutnant posted:

I've got a bundle of papers here proposing to establish an "Agricultural Training Home" for the unemployed of London which the founders expect will "provide [�] the means of testing the genuineness of the desire for work of the Unemployed". They are deliberately choosing to buy bad, unproductive land because the actual agricultural output of the establishment is not a concern at all, and they definitely don't want to impact on the good, profitable farms already in the area. They just want to drag 200 unemployed people out of london to live in barracks, work them 12 hours a day and pay them 7 shillings (�35/week in modern money) to prove their willingness to work.

Has anybody got Iain Duncan Smith's phone number?

Nothing ever changes.

Trickjaw posted:

You don't need his phone number, just say his name thrice.

Don't forget to write a Marx quote in a circle on the floor in chalk so he can't cross over.

e: Lewes has a DCFADP effigy for this year's bonfire/anti-Papism fest

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 13:51 on Nov 5, 2015

# ? Nov 5, 2015 13:44

Lord of the Llamas: Jul 9, 2002; EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH

Taear posted:

I think this one is silly because both of those words already exist. In fact I don't see it very often with a hyphen anyway.
Why bother putting it in the dictionary when people understand both words in the context?

Like most jobs there's not enough actual useful work to justify a 35-40 hour week so people who work for dictionaries need to fill their time at the office with some kind of bullshit.

# ? Nov 5, 2015 13:59

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Most depressing poll ever:

# ? Nov 5, 2015 14:02

Gonzo McFee: Jun 19, 2010

More racist than 1939 Britain.

What a time to be alive.

# ? Nov 5, 2015 14:07

Prince John: Jun 20, 2006; Oh, poppycock! Female bandits?

Coohoolin posted:

I'm back from London and I'm happy to report a few coppers got pelted, the Guardian picked up on our "David Cameron hosed a pig" chant, pig loving was a big theme, and in conclusion fees, tories and coppers are all bad.

Oh and in case you see the bullshit statement, they were ABSOLUTELY kettling people, mates of mine got caught in it and one was arrested. ACAB.

What were the police being pelted with?

# ? Nov 5, 2015 14:12

Dabir: Nov 10, 2012

If, as the government claims, it is only a small, unrepresentative number of MPs who gently caress kids,

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communism bitch: Apr 24, 2009

Who's to blame? Hint: it's the media.
How many of the people surveyed will have met a refugee? How many will have read hysterical editorials or heard bullshit by politicians feeding on fear, talking about hordes and swarms of forren-speaking rapists coming over here, taking our xboxes, demanding mansions and white girls, somehow never working a day in their lives and stealing all the jobs by working 17 hours a day for no wages.

# ? Nov 5, 2015 14:14

Tesseraction: Apr 5, 2009

Gonzo McFee posted:

More racist than 1939 Britain.

What a time to be alive.

Eh, while anti-Semitism was rife back then, I think skin-colour racism would have added, and if if it had been, for instance, Somalian Muslims back then you would have seen a similar number, IMO.

# ? Nov 5, 2015 14:19

Igiari: Sep 14, 2007

Dan Hodges posted:

We know there will be a riot, because the Metropolitan police service � whose job it is to prevent riots � have told us there will be one.

Sounds like they're not doing their job then.

# ? Nov 5, 2015 14:20

LemonDrizzle: Mar 28, 2012; neoliberal shithead

Today in completely unconnected events: the Bank of England announces that the base rate will probably remain at 0.5% until 2017, and Halifax announces that house prices rose by 1.1% month-on-month and just under 10% year-on-year: http://www.lloydsbankinggroup.com/globalassets/documents/media/press-releases/halifax/2015/housepriceindexoctober2015.pdf

Tonight in completely unconnected events, it will be Guy Fawkes night and there will be lots of loud noises throughout the evening.

LemonDrizzle fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Nov 5, 2015

# ? Nov 5, 2015 14:26

Zephro: Nov 23, 2000; I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

quote:

western Europe�s most vibrant capital city

Western Europe's biggest theme park for the 1%, and we can't possibly let any angry plebs disrupt their shopping, property speculation and general Wealth Creation�

# ? Nov 5, 2015 14:29

Phoon: Apr 23, 2010

TinTower posted:

Most depressing poll ever:

Yeah but OTOH the communism or fascism poll shows a slight boost for communism

# ? Nov 5, 2015 14:32

communism bitch: Apr 24, 2009

Gove has been talking a big talk about prison reform today. It surprises me because a friend of the family who recently quit his job as a screw has endless horror stories about the creeping privatisation of prisons.
Increasing numbers of private contractor prison officers has lead (in his experience) to a simple reduction of staff and a hysterical fear of work-related-injury lawsuits on the part of the employers. I think he worked in a mixed prison (some state prison officers, some private contractors) and tells stories of all the private staff being called off the cell blocks at the first sign of trouble, leaving the state prison officers to deal with unruly prisoners alone. In Cases where the staff are mostly private contractors he's heard of incidents where prisoners are simply not allowed out of their cells for any exercise, education, or interaction so that risk to staff are eliminated - or the other extreme of prisoners being left to roam their cell blocks completely without any supervision, again to protect the private contracting company from lawsuits.

I'd love to get him to cut lose for a few hours about his job one day and write it all don, but I get the impression he doesn't enjoy talking about it.

# ? Nov 5, 2015 15:48

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Oberleutnant posted:

Gove has been talking a big talk about prison reform today. It surprises me because a friend of the family who recently quit his job as a screw has endless horror stories about the creeping privatisation of prisons.

Reading the porn debate livetweet on that page.

quote:

Lord Farmer is asking for data on injuries from anal sex. "Young people are under considerable pressure to act like porn artists," he warns

Sounds easy to solve. Get schools to talk about consent and pressure, but also engage in harm reduction by talking about lube and poppers.
No, wait, we're about to ban one and PTAs get up in arms whenever we talk about the other. Better just ban sodomy again.

# ? Nov 5, 2015 15:54

serious gaylord: Sep 16, 2007; what.

When the only form of sex education is porn, don't be surprised that people grow up thinking its normal and expected.

# ? Nov 5, 2015 15:56

Venmoch: Jan 7, 2007; Either you pay me or I flay you alive... With my mind!

Guavanaut posted:

"porn artists"

Not sure why but this is giving me the funniest mental image.

I didn't think pornography was that classy. Clearly, I have been exposed to the wrong sort.

# ? Nov 5, 2015 15:59

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

I wouldn't say there's anything abnormal about it, but the expected bit is worrying. Enthusiastic consent is a good thing.
Porn is terrible at harm reduction though, and harm reduction is a good thing that schools should be doing more of.

# ? Nov 5, 2015 15:59

serious gaylord: Sep 16, 2007; what.

I meant normal in the 'This is how all sex is' kind of way. Not that doing it up the arse itself is abnormal.

# ? Nov 5, 2015 16:02

Gonzo McFee: Jun 19, 2010

Privatising Prisons is up there with privatising the NHS for me. Especially when we're still enforcing jail time for minor drug offences and it's still likely to get "Well if they didn't want to be raped to death in the showers as the guards watched on unwilling to intervene they shouldn't have broken the law/ sold a tenner bag." responses from the usual suspects.

Edit: and yeah, full sexual education is needed and not just the PE teacher looking flustered after picking out a card from a hat reading "Is yur boaby ment tay reek o cheeze?" for an afternoon. Especially for boys.

Gonzo McFee fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Nov 5, 2015

# ? Nov 5, 2015 16:07

communism bitch: Apr 24, 2009

Gonzo McFee posted:

Privatising Prisons is up there with privatising the NHS for me. Especially when we're still enforcing jail time for minor drug offences and it's still likely to get "Well if they didn't want to be raped to death in the showers as the guards watched on unwilling to intervene they shouldn't have broken the law/ sold a tenner bag." responses from the usual suspects.

Edit: and yeah, full sexual education is needed and not just the PE teacher looking flustered after picking out a card from a hat reading "Is yur boaby ment tay reek o cheeze?" for an afternoon. Especially for boys.

We had a big fuckoff dildo to practice putting rubbers on in my sex ed. It were well good.

# ? Nov 5, 2015 16:21

Trickjaw: Jun 23, 2005; Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene

That was bizarre. Turned on the news to see Dave speaking Arabic whilst drinking a glass of water. Say what you will about him, but thats first class showmanship.

# ? Nov 5, 2015 16:30