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Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

BigRed0427 posted:

I remember this. The story was they set up this gamejam, someone got some major tv studio to sponsor it and the director was a huge rear end in a top hat, which led to the drama and immediate NDAs from the studio.

Angry Joe was a judge on it. He said everyone went to Disney world afterward.

I think..a lot about what happened is still under legal lock and key I think.

There was an article on IndieStatik from the perspective of a contract worker for Polaris who discussed a lot of what happened with the GameJam.

From said article (had to find it via the Internet archive, since Indie Statik seems to have shut down within the last year or so):

"How The Most Expensive Game Jam In History Crashed And Burned In A Single Day posted:

JonTron and Zoe butting heads was something I was worried about from the second I saw their team line-up. Tensions were high, and everyone was out of their element, but if any two personalities weren’t going to gel, it was them. And they didn’t, to no one’s surprise, but the pair quickly left to talk in the hall, instead of letting it sour the group dynamic. The second their feet left the competition floor, however, something happened that I didn’t expect: cameras. Cameras from every angle and direction, marching in to the discussion as someone started feeding the fight with inflammatory comments, and all of it filmed for what would likely be some of that legal “misrepresentation.” Zoe was horrified.

The backlash of Depression Quest appearing on Steam Greenlight is not lost on me, and it’s still a fresh wound to both Zoe (who had to change her phone number due to death threats and harassment) and many female game developers and journalists who call the industry their home. The potential backlash of being “the bitch with a beef against JonTron” was all at once shockingly real, and by even having it on film, the risk for a fight to be cut into the show began to grow on everyone’s mind. Jon didn’t want that. Zoe definitely didn’t want that. Serrato, Umetani and the many producers spectating didn’t want that, and it went against everything game jams stood for – but Matti pushed the angle. And as the challenge went on, we discovered that he had cornered Jon in a room to try and get him to speak poorly of Zoe, the only negative “story” they could muster out of all fifteen contestants.

Jon’s a nice dude. That interview attempt failed, with the result of making him furious.

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TheMaestroso
Nov 4, 2014

I must know your secrets.

The Vosgian Beast posted:

If only he was more like the Epic Movie franchise.

Somehow that would probably be worse. Can you imagine Doug's reviews being more shallow than they already are?

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

TheMaestroso posted:

Somehow that would probably be worse. Can you imagine Doug's reviews being more shallow than they already are?

Yes, they would be like the Epic Movie franchise, I don't have to imagine it.

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

The Vosgian Beast posted:

If only he was more like the Epic Movie franchise.

WOAH! Hey, I stopped watching Doug awhile ago, but even he can't be THIS bad.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

The Vosgian Beast posted:

If only he was more like the Epic Movie franchise.

Dead?

lornekates
Oct 3, 2014

Web Developer for phelous.com dot com.

BigRed0427 posted:

WOAH! Hey, I stopped watching Doug awhile ago, but even he can't be THIS bad.

Four words for you:
To
Bold
Ly
Flee

BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

by Lowtax

Max Wilco posted:

There was an article on IndieStatik from the perspective of a contract worker for Polaris who discussed a lot of what happened with the GameJam.

From said article (had to find it via the Internet archive, since Indie Statik seems to have shut down within the last year or so):

Well that sounds a lot tamer than:

CaligulaKangaroo posted:

But him and Zoe Quinn had an argument one time! That totally justifies him retweeting creepy revenge porn when she's forced into hiding.

Which I still don't fully understand.

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

To be frank, I do seem to remember that the post was more on the grounds of "I don't know why so much folk are standing for her, given that I was with her and she wasn't that good looking to seduce folk"

watho
Aug 2, 2013


The real world will, again tomorrow, function and run without me.

BottledBodhisvata posted:

Well that sounds a lot tamer than:


Which I still don't fully understand.

Jontron retweeted a comic depicting Zoe Quinn in a 6 person gangbang. He has since removed it.

I know that you're going to defend it in some way and I know that I shouldn't respond to you because you're a bigger piece of poo poo than Jon is but at least now you know a little more, even though you'll just refute it.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

lornekates posted:

Four words for you:
To
Bold
Ly
Flee

It wasn't that bad.

Asuron
Nov 27, 2012

watho posted:

Jontron retweeted a comic depicting Zoe Quinn in a 6 person gangbang. He has since removed it.

I know that you're going to defend it in some way and I know that I shouldn't respond to you because you're a bigger piece of poo poo than Jon is but at least now you know a little more, even though you'll just refute it.

You have any proof of that? There's nothing to really defend on his part because you haven't proven that what you said is true and if you're gonna say someone did something really lovely like that, it's best to have proof they said it. I'm fairly certain you could find a saved archive of him retweeting that if you really wanted.

paradoxGentleman
Dec 10, 2013

wheres the jester, I could do with some pointless nonsense right about now

Before this thread explodes into rabid fury, I am going to point out that Asuron is in principle right in asking for proof when accusations of this kind are thrown around.

Asuron
Nov 27, 2012

paradoxGentleman posted:

Before this thread explodes into rabid fury, I am going to point out that Asuron is in principle right in asking for proof when accusations of this kind are thrown around.

I wouldn't understand why anyone who's reasonable would?

If he supported that, it's a lovely thing of him to do and support. But you gotta prove it he did it, which is completely reasonable. I've seen enough goons post lies or misrepresentations about what people say here to know not to believe any of it without definitive proof and I'd assume anyone with sense would do the same.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Who gives a poo poo? This is ancient history by internet standards and unpleasant history at that. Just leave it be.

Here's 47 minutes of hack frauds talking about Star War predictions to enjoy instead.

PassTheRemote
Mar 15, 2007

Number 6 holds The Village record in Duck Hunt.

The first one to kill :laugh: wins.

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Yes, they would be like the Epic Movie franchise, I don't have to imagine it.

So To Boldly Flee then?

e: dammit.

The Vosgian Beast posted:

It wasn't that bad.

I agree, Epic Movie was not as bad as To Boldly Flee.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

PassTheRemote posted:

So To Boldly Flee then?

e: dammit.


I agree, Epic Movie was not as bad as To Boldly Flee.

I think you're letting behind the scenes horror stories affect your judgement.

I mean it's comparing getting stung by a wasp to getting bitten by a spider, so it's not like it really matters.

watho
Aug 2, 2013


The real world will, again tomorrow, function and run without me.

Asuron posted:

You have any proof of that? There's nothing to really defend on his part because you haven't proven that what you said is true and if you're gonna say someone did something really lovely like that, it's best to have proof they said it. I'm fairly certain you could find a saved archive of him retweeting that if you really wanted.

https://twitter.com/jontronshow/status/502259332206305280

This is a reblog comic that was linked. it has not been changed or edited in any way. I really don't recommend actually clicking this.
:nws: http://lu-tengs-recliner-of-rage.tumblr.com/post/95247045117/plebcomics-a-mostly-half-assed-comic-of-utmost :nws:

Seriously gently caress you for making me dig this up.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Well, there goes the next 10 pages of this thread.

watho
Aug 2, 2013


The real world will, again tomorrow, function and run without me.

I'm really sorry for this but they asked for proof.

At least it's more interesting than MGSV talk :v:

FirstAidKite
Nov 8, 2009

watho posted:

https://twitter.com/jontronshow/status/502259332206305280

This is a reblog comic that was linked. it has not been changed or edited in any way. I really don't recommend actually clicking this.
:nws: http://lu-tengs-recliner-of-rage.tumblr.com/post/95247045117/plebcomics-a-mostly-half-assed-comic-of-utmost :nws:

Seriously gently caress you for making me dig this up.

Lol

paradoxGentleman
Dec 10, 2013

wheres the jester, I could do with some pointless nonsense right about now

I appreciate you digging it up, for what it's worth.

prahanormal
Mar 8, 2011

heya /
Gamergate?! More like *kills self.*

Cyron
Mar 10, 2014

by zen death robot

prahanormal posted:

Gamergate?! More like *kills self.*

it gamergate from last year too which makes it worse, they couldn't even muster when gamergate started to support the confederate flag last summer, but we need to dig out year old tweets from jon tron.

edit: I miss garbage dick default avatar.

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


Whatever, I'm not gonna base my entire opinion on a guy based on one stupid tweet they made. People on the Internet are way too reactionary like that

PassTheRemote
Mar 15, 2007

Number 6 holds The Village record in Duck Hunt.

The first one to kill :laugh: wins.

The Vosgian Beast posted:

I think you're letting behind the scenes horror stories affect your judgement.

I mean it's comparing getting stung by a wasp to getting bitten by a spider, so it's not like it really matters.

Epic Movie is an unfunny 90 minute "comedy" movie which uses references and had no originality to it.

To Boldly Flee is a 210 minute unfunny "Comedy movie" with subplots that go nowhere, scenes that are exact duplicates of other scenes that we have seen in this "movie", scenes that are stolen whole hog from better movies, which has no original characters, and an editor who was unwilling to cut any footage out, and a movie where most of the characters do not matter in the end.


Doug's review of the Friedberg/Seltzer movies is really rich, since he makes the same film-making mistakes they do, and goes even further in his own unoriginality.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Genuine Mike laugh spotted

Not since Benedict Cabbagepatch have we seen one!

Asuron
Nov 27, 2012

watho posted:

https://twitter.com/jontronshow/status/502259332206305280

This is a reblog comic that was linked. it has not been changed or edited in any way. I really don't recommend actually clicking this.
:nws: http://lu-tengs-recliner-of-rage.tumblr.com/post/95247045117/plebcomics-a-mostly-half-assed-comic-of-utmost :nws:

Seriously gently caress you for making me dig this up.

Cool, thanks.


Augus posted:

Whatever, I'm not gonna base my entire opinion on a guy based on one stupid tweet they made. People on the Internet are way too reactionary like that

That's the approach I take on it. He doesn't consistently say things like that, so a retweet of something stupid from over a year ago is nothing to get worked up over.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

PassTheRemote posted:

Epic Movie is an unfunny 90 minute "comedy" movie which uses references and had no originality to it.

To Boldly Flee is a 210 minute unfunny "Comedy movie" with subplots that go nowhere, scenes that are exact duplicates of other scenes that we have seen in this "movie", scenes that are stolen whole hog from better movies, which has no original characters, and an editor who was unwilling to cut any footage out, and a movie where most of the characters do not matter in the end.


Doug's review of the Friedberg/Seltzer movies is really rich, since he makes the same film-making mistakes they do, and goes even further in his own unoriginality.

That's nice, sweetie.

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


Don't compare things to Epic Movie. The level of awfulness that movie and its mutant children reach should be treated with all due solemness and not be taken lightly.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Jimbot posted:

Genuine Mike laugh spotted

Not since Benedict Cabbagepatch have we seen one!

There was a joke going around that Best of the Worst started because Jay won a bet that if he could make Mike actually laugh once he'd get his own show.

I wonder what Rich will get as his reward? :allears:

PassTheRemote
Mar 15, 2007

Number 6 holds The Village record in Duck Hunt.

The first one to kill :laugh: wins.

Augus posted:

Don't compare things to Epic Movie. The level of awfulness that movie and its mutant children reach should be treated with all due solemness and not be taken lightly.

Those movies, while terrible, aren't even close to the worst movies I have ever seen.


http://www.thecinemasnob.com/midnight-screenings/midnight-screenings-dancin-its-on

This movie however, sounds intriguing.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

PassTheRemote posted:

Those movies, while terrible, aren't even close to the worst movies I have ever seen.


http://www.thecinemasnob.com/midnight-screenings/midnight-screenings-dancin-its-on

This movie however, sounds intriguing.

I've been waiting all year to see Kirk Cameron's Saving Christmas.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

PassTheRemote posted:

Those movies, while terrible, aren't even close to the worst movies I have ever seen.


http://www.thecinemasnob.com/midnight-screenings/midnight-screenings-dancin-its-on

This movie however, sounds intriguing.

I watched that review last night. I wonder if Brad's gonna Saving Christmas/War Room this one and send all of Team Snob to see it now too.

I love these kind of "All Hands on Deck" reviews of the worst of the worst he's starting to do.

dijon du jour
Mar 27, 2013

I'm shy
For who wants to know Thread favorite Mike J started a new "week on" earlier this week. This one's about the juice diet!

Sure, its only tangentially related to internet criticism, but I just wanted to mention it to point out how well the handheld camera vlogs really add to the "found-footage" feel of the whole thing.

What I'm saying is if things don't go full itchy-tasty by day 6 I will be sorely disappointed.

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


PassTheRemote posted:

Those movies, while terrible, aren't even close to the worst movies I have ever seen.


http://www.thecinemasnob.com/midnight-screenings/midnight-screenings-dancin-its-on

This movie however, sounds intriguing.

There's a big difference from something that is hilariously incompetently made, and something that is just offensive to the mind on every level

PassTheRemote
Mar 15, 2007

Number 6 holds The Village record in Duck Hunt.

The first one to kill :laugh: wins.

Augus posted:

There's a big difference from something that is hilariously incompetently made, and something that is just offensive to the mind on every level

There is a difference, true, but I would not call Epic Movie "hilariously incompetently made". :newlol:

dijon du jour posted:

For who wants to know Thread favorite Mike J started a new "week on" earlier this week. This one's about the juice diet!

Sure, its only tangentially related to internet criticism, but I just wanted to mention it to point out how well the handheld camera vlogs really add to the "found-footage" feel of the whole thing.

What I'm saying is if things don't go full itchy-tasty by day 6 I will be sorely disappointed.

Watching the juicing of the oranges, and there is a lot of fiber not going into the juice. He talks about only having a glass of juice for lunch, that's where fiber could come in, taking up some stomach space and making you feel full.

I still feel Juicing diets are a croc of poo poo. MikeJ is in for an interesting week.

Violet_Sky
Dec 5, 2011



Fun Shoe
Todd should review this song for OHW: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LahcSFleKm8

Testekill
Nov 1, 2012

I demand to be taken seriously

:aronrex:



Eh, their follow up did hit the top 20 although Todd could do it since he also includes bands that have been defined entirely by a single song as one hit wonders.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
At this point, I'm not sure if Moviebob's patreon has run dry yet, or if he's having another meltdown about people liking things he doesn't. Review of Spectre.

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Tracula
Mar 26, 2010

PLEASE LEAVE

I know that Dark Knight and Skyfall both have the whole thing of the bad guy letting himself get captured but it is so totally not the same drat movie. If you want to compare Skyfall to anything the best comparison is Home Alone :colbert:

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