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widespread
Aug 5, 2013

I believe I am now no longer in the presence of nice people.


rap music posted:

It will still pull a 95ish on metacritic.

That's why you never put money into a game. Always the pockets of critics and whatnot.

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Bob NewSCART
Feb 1, 2012

Outstanding afternoon. "I've often said there's nothing better for the inside of a man than the outside of a horse."

That's loving sad, Bethesda. gently caress tou. You lied to me and I'm not going to suck your dick in the car anymore

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

Bob NewSCART posted:

That's loving sad, Bethesda. gently caress tou. You lied to me and I'm not going to suck your dick in the car anymore

:monocle:

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe

Skim Milk posted:

It's hard to truly role-play in any game no matter how hard you try. New Vegas did a pretty good job at giving you options. I wish games like Fallout/Skyrim/STALKER had a mode where you're "just a guy" and you can go do whatever instead of being the Chosen One (tm), maybe stumbling upon main-story like quests. Those games probably don't sell well so whatevs

Even Fallout 3 wasn't so bad, despite giving you a pre-defined history and an emotional investment to chase around, because your dad was a competent adult who had a plan and didn't need you looking after him. If what I understand of FO4 is correct though, you're either going to be stuck pursuing the main quest tirelessly until the matter with your son is resolved or ruin the narrative flow by stopping to teach your dog tricks while your kid's still in danger. You're kind of damned if you do, damned if you don't. It wouldn't be a problem if Bethesda let you play the guy as an uncaring parent who's happy to have his family taken from him, but you know that no matter how much time you waste on trivial poo poo between main story beats your guy's still going to be all like "my son is my everything and I won't rest til he's found". Won't rest from playing with your dog and playing with trash out in the wasteland, you mean.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

Grapplejack posted:

Fallout NV quests:
Help grandma super mutant find lost dog
Help Elvis beat up raiders
Find entertainers for lovely casino
Send ghouls into space on makeshift rocket

Fallout 3 quests:
stop depressed man from killing himself
Help synthetics escape via literal underground railroad or turn in slave for money
Solve dispute among vampire clans
Shoot enormous, radiated fireants to save some dude's dad

hmm which of these two things is very serious

I was surprised to hear that the game where the main quest involves a happy robot making snarky comments at you takes itself more seriously than the game where the main quest involves watching your father commit suicide with an overdose of feels.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Sounds like modern parenting to me.

GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007

Stream doesn't load for me :\

edit: oh there we go. PC version?

edit 2: lagggy stream :\

Morzhovyye
Mar 2, 2013

Did this get posted yet? I'm only skimming over the posts skipping every few pages because this thread is dogshit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvGXCisAaR4

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

Odobenidae posted:

this thread is a Zagat rated five star meal with excellent service

Well put.

void_serfer
Jan 13, 2012

2house2fly posted:

I was surprised to hear that the game where the main quest involves a happy robot making snarky comments at you takes itself more seriously than the game where the main quest involves watching your father commit suicide with an overdose of feels.

To be fair, the ending of FO3 is hilariously bad.

HnK416
Apr 26, 2008

Hot diggity damn!

I am honestly really digging the Ghoul redesign. I also am torn between praying that this dude is a companion and wanting to murder him for his swanky pirate getup.

Soral
May 30, 2009

you're right, insane weirdo, the game with the dog with a sci-fi bubble dome brain who is the pet of elvis and the gang of goofy zombies being prevented from flying to space in lovely rockets by a monster with an imaginary friend is extremely self serious. the game with the johnny 5 aces reference, is too loving serious. i want some god drat levity in my video game, and all i get is this serious horse poo poo about a big robot with a cowboy voice talking about how he's rollin along on his spurs

frajaq
Jan 30, 2009

#acolyte GM of 2014


HnK416 posted:

I am honestly really digging the Ghoul redesign. I also am torn between praying that this dude is a companion and wanting to murder him for his swanky pirate getup

He's a companion and no you can't kill him, he's essential.

Heavy Lobster
Oct 24, 2010

:gowron::m10:

Soral posted:

you're right, insane weirdo, the game with the dog with a sci-fi bubble dome brain who is the pet of elvis and the gang of goofy zombies being prevented from flying to space in lovely rockets by a monster with an imaginary friend is extremely self serious. the game with the johnny 5 aces reference, is too loving serious. i want some god drat levity in my video game, and all i get is this serious horse poo poo about a big robot with a cowboy voice talking about how he's rollin along on his spurs

Heh, ever heard of a little NPC named Moira? :smug:

GuyUpNorth
Apr 29, 2014

Witty phrases on random basis
So potential followers are essential even outside follower mode? That's a bummer, but expected of Bethesda.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

Joe Gillian posted:

To be fair, the ending of FO3 is hilariously bad.

It's baffling that instead of a slideshow explaining how your actions would go on to affect the world they did a slideshow explaining what you had done. Leaked audio from F4's ending indicates it'll be the same.

Zomborgon
Feb 19, 2014

I don't even want to see what happens if you gain CHIM outside of a pre-coded system.

>player.additem SWEETCOAT 1
>player.equipitem SWEETCOAT

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum

HnK416 posted:

I am honestly really digging the Ghoul redesign. I also am torn between praying that this dude is a companion and wanting to murder him for his swanky pirate getup.

I saw the outfit showing up in the Museum of History that you save the Minute Men in so you don't have to kill him for his swag.

frajaq
Jan 30, 2009

#acolyte GM of 2014


Hahaha loving Suicide Bomber Super-Mutants that sprint at you while carrying a Mini-Nuke :allears:

Bholder
Feb 26, 2013

Guys, you should allow to have some criticism about Fallout 4, it is far from a perfect game and all of it's flaws should be bought up.
But don't you dare touch New Vegas, the absolute well being of perfectness, there's no way you can bring up anything that's wrong with that holy program, you must be trolling and my poor aching heart cannot take it.

circ dick soleil
Sep 27, 2012

by zen death robot
I like that they separated clothing and armor now.

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib

Bholder posted:

Guys, you should allow to have some criticism about Fallout 4, it is far from a perfect game and all of it's flaws should be bought up.
But don't you dare touch New Vegas, the absolute well being of perfectness, there's no way you can bring up anything that's wrong with that holy program, you must be trolling and my poor aching heart cannot take it.

Are you talking to your imaginary friend again?

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

Bholder posted:

Guys, you should allow to have some criticism about Fallout 4, it is far from a perfect game and all of it's flaws should be bought up.
But don't you dare touch New Vegas, the absolute well being of perfectness, there's no way you can bring up anything that's wrong with that holy program, you must be trolling and my poor aching heart cannot take it.

I see you levelled up and opted for the Meltdown perk

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

circ dick soleil posted:

I like that they separated clothing and armor now.

they also went back to individual slots for pauldrons and greaves

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.

Bholder posted:

Guys, you should allow to have some criticism about Fallout 4, it is far from a perfect game and all of it's flaws should be bought up.
But don't you dare touch New Vegas, the absolute well being of perfectness, there's no way you can bring up anything that's wrong with that holy program, you must be trolling and my poor aching heart cannot take it.

You should be locked in a car on an exceptionally warm day.

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum

Al! posted:

they also went back to individual slots for pauldrons and greaves

Its cool that you can find random side armor to put on you from bandits and the like, but I'm thinking the best stuff will be anything you can make with max perks or found on legendary goons.

Heavy Lobster
Oct 24, 2010

:gowron::m10:

Al! posted:

they also went back to individual slots for pauldrons and greaves

Oh hey, I guess I am getting Fallout 4 on launch.

Happy_Misanthrope
Aug 3, 2007

"I wanted to kill you, go to your funeral, and anyone who showed up to mourn you, I wanted to kill them too."
Sure I wasn't the only one yelling for him to shoot the loving car

Sweet explosions though

Zomborgon
Feb 19, 2014

I don't even want to see what happens if you gain CHIM outside of a pre-coded system.

Al! posted:

they also went back to individual slots for pauldrons and greaves

It is the new Morrowind; the Second Coming has truly arrived!

widespread
Aug 5, 2013

I believe I am now no longer in the presence of nice people.


Heavy Lobster posted:

Oh hey, I guess I am getting Fallout 4 on launch.

I might, too. Because I'm finally getting more hours in two weeks.

Lakbay
Dec 14, 2006

My eye...MY EYE!!!
Neither of the streamers are using power armor, do you just have to abandon it if you run out of fusion cores and don't want to be all slow? Is there a way to summon it iron man style??

Magmarashi
May 20, 2009





Is that 10mm Burst or Auto?

GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007

I hope it's possible to use power armor, perpetually, forever. Why would you use anything else?

circ dick soleil
Sep 27, 2012

by zen death robot

Al! posted:

they also went back to individual slots for pauldrons and greaves

Thank God. Now I just have to wait for a mod that separates vambraces from brassards.

HnK416
Apr 26, 2008

Hot diggity damn!

circ dick soleil posted:

Thank God. Now I just have to wait for a mod that separates vambraces from brassards.

Gloves, bracers, spaulders, breastplates and backplates, gorgets, greaves, faulds, cuisses and sabatons. I must be able to select each individual stitch in my clothing.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

GreenBuckanneer posted:

I hope it's possible to use power armor, perpetually, forever. Why would you use anything else?

I think it's not, hence why they run on fuel. But if you manage your resources and supply chains like I think they promise you will, you ought to have more than enough fuel to use your power armor a LOT.

What I'm hoping for is an Old World Blues-style junk recycling system where every single useless clipboard, ruined book, toaster or coffee cup can be mashed up into useful items. Give me Salient Green, Fallout 4!

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum
There are also perks to specifically get better mileage out of your armor and the ability to even turn its burned out fusion cores into bombs.

Power Armor has basically become the car from the recent Mad Max game. Something you customize and build up into a Magnum Opus of death.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Crabtree posted:

There are also perks to specifically get better mileage out of your armor and the ability to even turn its burned out fusion cores into bombs.

And the "Choo Choo, Motherfucker!" perk that lets you juggernaut straight into enemies while in it. That ought to be fun.

Mediocrity Goggles
Mar 20, 2009

Looking at it the wrong way.
The power armor seems pretty functionally useless unless you got the cores to power it. One might think "oh that's unbalanced, they just up and give you power armor in the very first town you go to?" when come to find out it needs fusion cores and is generally a useless piece of poo poo you just have chilling at your house until way later into the game, when you would have typically been given a power armor in other games.

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Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib

Mediocrity Goggles posted:

The power armor seems pretty functionally useless unless you got the cores to power it. One might think "oh that's unbalanced, they just up and give you power armor in the very first town you go to?" when come to find out it needs fusion cores and is generally a useless piece of poo poo you just have chilling at your house until way later into the game, when you would have typically been given a power armor in other games.

It's there for epic rail shooting and chilling with your buds in the power armor gangs, taking potshots at rats with your laser muskets

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