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Yeah, technically illegal. Don't worry, I got mod permission to make a thread about this. I'm a sex worker, aka I suck dick for money. Because of my bisexuality and an actual diagnosed hyperactive libido, it was a decent fit, at least it seems that way for now. I know it's not something I'll do forever. I'm pretty new in the game but even in a smaller town around an hour or so away from the nearest major city, I'm doing well for myself and getting my rent paid on time. I'm prepared to answer any question as long as it doesn't involve me giving out any personal information about clients. I'm 20, and I'm male, so all of my clients are gay men. I've heard of straight male escorts with mostly female clients but the vast majority are gay who profit off the repressed gay men any decent-sized community has.
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# ? Nov 6, 2015 13:44 |
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# ? May 23, 2024 17:49 |
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NO LISTEN TO ME posted:I know it's not something I'll do forever. So what's your exit strategy?
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# ? Nov 6, 2015 14:21 |
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Trin Tragula posted:So what's your exit strategy? I'm also a musician and I make money off of that in addition to this. The hours are good with a job like this and I can spend that extra time on my music, and hopefully someday shift priorities over to my music and use that as a main source of income instead. And if all else fails I could also make enough along with some federal stuff I qualify for to maybe go back to school, but because of reasons I won't go into I'm in some rough debt with that stuff (which contributed to all of this) so maybe not.
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# ? Nov 6, 2015 14:25 |
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How any of your clients would you say are there for the sex or for the gay sex if that makes sense
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# ? Nov 6, 2015 16:47 |
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how excellent are the dicks
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# ? Nov 6, 2015 17:15 |
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Darth Freddy posted:How any of your clients would you say are there for the sex or for the gay sex if that makes sense I have no idea what you mean, actually Control Volume posted:how excellent are the dicks Without the money incentive they wouldn't be that good since typically the kind of people you attract are people who normally can't get some themselves.
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# ? Nov 6, 2015 17:22 |
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Do your parents know and if so what do they say to you about it?
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# ? Nov 6, 2015 17:32 |
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feedmegin posted:Do your parents know and if so what do they say to you about it? Nope, both of them live half a country away from me, in different directions no less, so they don't need to know how I make money. They don't even know I'm not straight; they would barely approve of that, so they definitely don't want to hear about this.
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# ? Nov 6, 2015 17:41 |
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Just wanted to remind everyone this sort of thread is easily poo poo up and therefore please do not poo poo it up.
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# ? Nov 6, 2015 18:07 |
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NO LISTEN TO ME posted:Yeah, technically illegal.
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# ? Nov 6, 2015 18:10 |
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lllllllllllllllllll posted:Are you in favour of prostitution being legal? Absolutely, legalizing it would do a bunch of things: 1. De-stigmatize it, at least a little bit. I'm using my body like anyone else would to do their job. 2. Makes it safer. A lot of the dangers surrounding a job like this is because there's no legal protection for both workers and clients. 3. Not a lot of people think about this one but it makes it so that a lot of workers don't have to jump through hoops to pay taxes and not get audited. Hey state workers, you know your salaries are paid for by taxes, right? Lemme help you out. Also jsyk people are starting to move away from prostitution as a term, it's on the same level as hooker or whore nowadays. Use sex work or escorting in the future, if you can.
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# ? Nov 6, 2015 18:20 |
What was the moment when you decided to do this for money? Was it difficult 'breaking in', do you face any competition? How do you arrange services? Would you keep doing sex work if someone offered you an equivalent (hours/pay) "traditional" job? Thanks for making the thread, these are always interesting at the minimum.
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# ? Nov 6, 2015 22:29 |
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NO LISTEN TO ME posted:
I'm imagining Boogie Nights, OP. Do you have mainly repeat cients that you know or are you blowing random repressed dudes with macho insecurity issues?
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# ? Nov 6, 2015 22:50 |
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Chard posted:What was the moment when you decided to do this for money? Was it difficult 'breaking in', do you face any competition? How do you arrange services? Would you keep doing sex work if someone offered you an equivalent (hours/pay) "traditional" job? I was real repressed sexually most of my life, and about a year ago I started posting pics of myself online, and people liked them, and I realized my body was something I could profit on, though I didn't make the jump until a few months ago. It was a little hard breaking in just because I focused on doing as much research as I could, of how to do this job. I found communities of people that answered any question I could, though, and that made it a lot easier. It was more mental work than physical work, convincing myself that I could actually do this, and I wasn't making a terrible decision. I don't really face any competition in my area because I fill a specific niche. Gay men usually like 2 body types and nothing else - small and twinky or big and hairy, and I am very solidly the former. And even then there's a sliding scale, between twinks, and femboys. And I'm very feminine already, completely on that side of the scale, and typically play it up even more for clients that like it, which I enjoy doing. I arrange services mostly through backpage, clients will email me, I'll tell them my prices, and then I'll get info on where they are, and get their number. I call using a cheap phone I have that's not my main phone and we talk about what we wanna do together. My transportation's limited so if it's not within walking or cab distance I ask them to pick me up, deducting a bit from the payment for gas money. It would depend what the job was. I've tried and can't do a whole lot of physical labor but if it was something that let me sit on my rear end a bit, then yeah, I'd probably give up sex work for it. But the whole reason I'm in this business in the first place is because the traditional job market has failed me enough times. Ivan Yurkinov posted:I'm imagining Boogie Nights, OP. Do you have mainly repeat cients that you know or are you blowing random repressed dudes with macho insecurity issues? Turning one-offs into repeat clients is normally how sex workers make their money - it's all about finding those few people who just go nuts for whatever you're selling. And "know" is a pretty weird word because all I really know about them is their name, how big their dick is, and maybe what the inside of their room looks like. Which is fine by me because the kind of person that likes to rent out dudes for the night is probably the kind of person I don't want to be friends with.
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 01:27 |
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NO LISTEN TO ME posted:I have no idea what you mean, actually How many of your clients are gay but can't either find a partner or jsu want some sex. Or are a lot of them using you as a source of sex because they are to scared to come out into the open type of thing.
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 02:11 |
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Darth Freddy posted:How many of your clients are gay but can't either find a partner or jsu want some sex. Mostly the first one. Because they can't find an ideal partner with the body type I do so they settle for me. I hear about straight guys testing the waters by getting a male escort to see how they like it but I've never had a client like that.
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 03:28 |
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That reminds me though, of one of the funniest services a lot of escorts offer. I technically offer it too but I haven't gotten anyone who wants it. The bf/gf experience, where basically you just act as their partner for the night, go out for dinner, maybe see a movie. There probably won't be any sex involved, just they've got to go on a date but can't get one on their own so they're okay paying someone to bring them on a fake date.
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 03:31 |
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What do you usually think about when you're working? Just doing the job, fantasizing about whatever celeb you'd rather the client be, delicious burgs? What was your worst client like, your best?
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 03:42 |
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What's your whole take on the rentboy.com situation?NO LISTEN TO ME posted:Which is fine by me because the kind of person that likes to rent out dudes for the night is probably the kind of person I don't want to be friends with. This getting really morally murky, you're okay with selling sex but you don't want to friends with anyone who's purchased a prostitute?
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 03:43 |
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zidane13 posted:What do you usually think about when you're working? Just doing the job, fantasizing about whatever celeb you'd rather the client be, delicious burgs? "I can't wait to spend this money on clothes and video games"
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 03:43 |
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Tab8715 posted:What's your whole take on the rentboy.com situation? 1. Anything that makes it harder and less safe for prospective sex workers is a bad thing. 2. I meant moreso that I'm not really interested in my job for friends I could be making, I'm here to do the job. I separate this job and my social life as much as I can.
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 03:49 |
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Do you feel like you have to make a huge effort to avoid The Law, or does the avoidance sort of come naturally with how you arrange your work? I'm also curious what hoops you jump to pay your taxes (or not) but feel free not to answer that one for obvious reasons
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 03:52 |
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Ciaphas posted:Do you feel like you have to make a huge effort to avoid The Law, or does the avoidance sort of come naturally with how you arrange your work? The Law normally goes after clients instead of workers, which is still not something I agree with, but hey, it's not me. But other than that I do make sure I'm not accidentally falling into a trap. And with taxes, I actually haven't gone through a tax season on this job yet, but there are things people have written up about how to do it. A lot of it just involves listing your occupation as "entertainer" or something but there's a few more steps.
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 04:01 |
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Are you saving any of the money you make doing this, or is it all going to clothes and video games? Also, do you associate with other young men in your line of work? Is there a "community" built around what you're doing?
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:06 |
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NO LISTEN TO ME posted:I'm also a musician and I make money off of that in addition to this. The hours are good with a job like this and I can spend that extra time on my music, and hopefully someday shift priorities over to my music and use that as a main source of income instead. So if music works out, what are you going to do when one of your johns comes forward to sell his story to a tabloid for the cash money? Statute of limitations on soliciting's only a year most places, after all.
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:11 |
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Not a Children posted:Are you saving any of the money you make doing this, or is it all going to clothes and video games? Nah, I have a rainy day fund, it's the kind of job where there's dry spells so you gotta be prepared for that, and I keep a little in general savings too. And there isn't really a local community here but there's definitely an online presence, especially among cammers and stuff. it's where I got started.
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:11 |
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Do you have a pimp or whatever, or is that not a thing anymore?
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 06:01 |
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Watch out for the self-employment tax. You probably want to make quarterly estimated tax payments once you have an idea of your annual income, and you definitely should keep track of your expenses, sine you'll probably be using the schedule C.
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 06:29 |
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Sorry if this is too invasive, but do you ever worry this might ever come back to bite you in the future? I've sometimes wondered what it must be like for porn artists and other kinds of sex workers should they work in a different field and potentially compromising info about their pasts come up again (especially in careers like politics where image is everything).
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 06:44 |
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Grand Prize Winner posted:Do you have a pimp or whatever, or is that not a thing anymore? They probably still exist but I've never seen anyone have one Your Dunkle Sans posted:Sorry if this is too invasive, but do you ever worry this might ever come back to bite you in the future? I've sometimes wondered what it must be like for porn artists and other kinds of sex workers should they work in a different field and potentially compromising info about their pasts come up again (especially in careers like politics where image is everything). I worry about it coming back to bite me in the rear end, sure, but I also can't see myself going into a field where there'd be a lot of image upkeep? It's probably short sighted of me but I feel like this is more of a cross that bridge when I come to it situation.
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 07:24 |
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Are your clients at least hygenic? I always imagine a significant proportion of clients (straight or gay) are broken rear end neckbeards who don't realise they stink.
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 11:23 |
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Do you bring protection with yourself when working? By which I don't mean condoms, but a gun, pepper spray or something. As for the services, what's the general ratio between simple dick-sucking requests and proper Bill-Clinton-agrees-it-is-sex?
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 14:33 |
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mediadave posted:Are your clients at least hygenic? I always imagine a significant proportion of clients (straight or gay) are broken rear end neckbeards who don't realise they stink. I haven't gotten anyone too bad yet, really, it's all been pretty average cleanliness wise. No one's winning any awards, though. Lichtenstein posted:Do you bring protection with yourself when working? By which I don't mean condoms, but a gun, pepper spray or something. A gun would be way too much. I bring a phone with some trusted friends at the ready but I haven't had to use it yet. Though that said some pepper spray wouldn't be a bad idea.
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 14:41 |
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What do you do about STDs? If you are literally just doing oral sex I guess the rate of transmission is lower, but not so much that it wouldn't be a worry for most people. You mentioned that your libido makes you a "better fit" for the job? I always thought someone who didn't give the slightest gently caress about sex would be the best sex worker, because they don't have to worry about flashbacks to some hairy trucker's heaving panniculus ruining the mood during sex with their actual partner. They might not be as good at acting, but then again not caring about serving coffee doesn't make the majority of baristas bad at giving service with a smile. Tab8715 posted:This getting really morally murky, you're okay with selling sex but you don't want to friends with anyone who's purchased a prostitute? I know the OP said this wasn't his reason, but I don't really see this as difficult to understand. It's like how some people would be fine with being friends with a professional maid or nanny for a wealthy person but would be more reluctant to befriend a rich person who grew up with servants. They're not automatically dicks and they don't have to be banned from purchasing the service, but often people who do use the services can be more likely to have warped views on things. Typically to do with hierarchies in society. Or they're just harder to relate to if you're in the economic class that sells the service and not the one who can afford to buy it.
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 15:40 |
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Weldon Pemberton posted:What do you do about STDs? If you are literally just doing oral sex I guess the rate of transmission is lower, but not so much that it wouldn't be a worry for most people. I do worry about STDs but I make sure everything is protected and I minimize risk as much as I can. Some guys really want to go bareback. I don't gently caress with (also, i just don't gently caress) those people. And I do think my libido helps, if not necessarily in the actual performance, it does make me enjoy the job more. It's good to get some actual sexual release, especially as someone more submissive sexually. I have outlets for getting sex I enjoy more, too, but this helps. I remember a big watershed moment for me is looking up like, average male masturbation rates, and from all the data I found, even when giving a modest bump to the average, I was still around 5 times above the average. So after that I started looking at my relationship with sexuality a little closer.
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 17:23 |
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You jerk it 5 times a day? Doesn't that start to chafe?
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 17:28 |
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KillHour posted:You jerk it 5 times a day? Doesn't that start to chafe? The average seems to be like 4-5 times a week and I typically average around 3 a day, sometimes more, sometimes less. You get used to it
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 17:29 |
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Has the frequency of that gone down since you started sex work or are you rubbing one off between clients? How common is it for you to orgasm during an encounter? Is it mostly just guys wanting a BJ and then you leave or is it more mutual? If the former, do you end up with blue balls a lot, or are you not really turned on by most of your clients?
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 17:44 |
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KillHour posted:Has the frequency of that gone down since you started sex work or are you rubbing one off between clients? Well I'm not going out every day so it hasn't really halted any of that And it depends what they want to do. If I'm just sucking them off, I won't orgasm for the most part. If they're up my rear end I might but it's not guaranteed. I'm not super attracted to any of my clients physically, but it's more the act I'm attracted to. I really like being submissive so being in any situation that lets me flaunt that side of me I'm really interested in. Ultimately it's about them being satisfied instead of me, and if that means they're the only ones that climax, so be it.
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KillHour posted:You jerk it 5 times a day? Doesn't that start to chafe? I remember some study that pointed the average at a little over 3 times a week. quote:It was a little hard breaking in just because I focused on doing as much research as I could, of how to do this job. I found communities of people that answered any question I could, though, and that made it a lot easier. It was more mental work than physical work, convincing myself that I could actually do this, and I wasn't making a terrible decision. That makes me really curious. If it is not too much, could you tell me about your very first appointment? Was it completely awkward? Was it roughly what you expected?
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