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I'm rewatching from season 1 and was wondering something - considering what we know the "Trickster" ended up being, why was he killing/molesting all those people and trying to kill Dean/Sam in his first episode in season 2? Just to keep his cover I guess? I would have thought he'd try and keep a low profile and just do the bare minimum to make people buy into his act. e: I forgot how cheesy/over the top sentimental they got in season 2. The end of episode 17 was hard to watch without laughing. yeah I eat ass fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Nov 3, 2015 |
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Murphy Brownback posted:I'm rewatching from season 1 and was wondering something - considering what we know the "Trickster" ended up being, why was he killing/molesting all those people and trying to kill Dean/Sam in his first episode in season 2? Just to keep his cover I guess? I would have thought he'd try and keep a low profile and just do the bare minimum to make people buy into his act. Well he took on the mantle of trickster to hide. Tricksters are assholes. And not really just ANY Trickster, but Loki, so like...TREMENDOUS rear end in a top hat. They kill people. He wasn't above it, clearly. As for nuking Sam and Dean I imagine it has something to do with not wanting to be found out, like you said.
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Nov 3, 2015 21:12
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cool kids inc. posted:Well he took on the mantle of trickster to hide. Tricksters are assholes. And not really just ANY Trickster, but Loki, so like...TREMENDOUS rear end in a top hat. They kill people. He wasn't above it, clearly. As for nuking Sam and Dean I imagine it has something to do with not wanting to be found out, like you said. That whole thing was dumb as hell. It was in their "EVERYTHING is an angel/demon" phase. gently caress, they even tried to say Reapers were Angels just to murder another supporting character, didn't they?
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Nov 3, 2015 21:25
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Speaking of Gabriel/Loki, I rewatched the episode where he dies. It got me thinking would everything he created disappear one he died?
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Nov 3, 2015 21:26
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Blazing Ownager posted:That whole thing was dumb as hell. No, I think that was just "angel blades can kill anything short of Death himself."
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Nov 3, 2015 21:32
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Just finished watching the latest episode and realized they retconned soul taking. When Pestilence ate the souls of people their bodies died. In another episode, a monster ate souls and the body died as well. Sam only came back because Castiel gave life back to his body without his soul. You might think it's because it's the darkness doing it, but remember demons did the same thing with souls not too long ago. I declare soul taking and leaving the body alive to be shenanigans in the highest order.
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Nov 5, 2015 09:40
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Yaos posted:Just finished watching the latest episode and realized they retconned soul taking. When Pestilence ate the souls of people their bodies died. In another episode, a monster ate souls and the body died as well. Sam only came back because Castiel gave life back to his body without his soul. You might think it's because it's the darkness doing it, but remember demons did the same thing with souls not too long ago. I declare soul taking and leaving the body alive to be shenanigans in the highest order. Well, first off the Darkness is ~*~special~*~ and being the new enemy has a higher power level than any previous enemy, plus special abilities never seen before (such as keeping a body alive while eating its soul). Second, they're dropping pretty heavy foreshadowing about D.A.R.K.N.E.S.S. building some kind of soulless human army for ???????? that will probably be revealed somewhere halfway through the season before it goes on winter hiatus.
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Nov 5, 2015 19:00
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I forget, is the bad rear end Alpha Vampire still around? With even the monsters raising armies to fight ****THE DARKNESS**** I'd love to see him show up. I also want Constantine to show up, since his whole series was about the rising darkness, and have him berate Sam and Dean. I don't care if they don't share universes, any Constantine is never a bad thing. Titan fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Nov 6, 2015 |
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Nov 6, 2015 16:53
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Titan posted:I forget, is the bad rear end Alpha Vampire still around? Well, since Constantine shares a universe with Arrow, that would make Arrow share a universe with Supernatural, and then we'd have an even bigger mess. Besides, Constantine is the only person who does "mess around with dark powers you don't understand and gently caress things up spectacularly" better than Sam and Dean, so that would be a bit hypocritical of him.
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Nov 6, 2015 16:56
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What's the use of a body without a soul anyways? It's like a car without a battery?
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Nov 6, 2015 17:04
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Yaos posted:Just finished watching the latest episode and realized they retconned soul taking. When Pestilence ate the souls of people their bodies died. In another episode, a monster ate souls and the body died as well. Sam only came back because Castiel gave life back to his body without his soul. You might think it's because it's the darkness doing it, but remember demons did the same thing with souls not too long ago. I declare soul taking and leaving the body alive to be shenanigans in the highest order. Pestilence was a bit different. He was causing people to gorge themselves to death and then eating their souls after their bodies had already died.
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Nov 6, 2015 20:07
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I'm going through a catch-up binge here, and I have to say, "Baby" was my favorite episode in a long time. I could stand some more like it.
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Nov 6, 2015 20:35
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Some Numbers posted:Pestilence was a bit different. He was causing people to gorge themselves to death and then eating their souls after their bodies had already died. That was Famine. Pestilence was Matt Frewer.
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Nov 6, 2015 20:40
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raditts posted:Well, since Constantine shares a universe with Arrow, that would make Arrow share a universe with Supernatural, and then we'd have an even bigger mess. I'd like to see him hang around Castiel for a bit and talk about wardrobes.
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Nov 6, 2015 20:49
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Darko posted:I'd like to see him hang around Castiel for a bit and talk about wardrobes. He can also talk to Sam and Dean about loved ones and friends being horribly murdered/dammed just for knowing them.
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Nov 6, 2015 21:20
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Darko posted:I'd like to see him hang around Castiel for a bit and talk about wardrobes. And possibly "The Wire."
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Nov 7, 2015 00:54
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I gotta say, I'm enjoying this "back to basics" more procedural feel the show's got (again) now. It really does feel like they finally stepped far enough back to notice for themselves how loving bloated it was
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Nov 7, 2015 01:23
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Kicking the entire "IMMA WINCHESTER" out is the best/honest since season five. I say this but, still, wanting Ash with Angel powers in his Luchador mask.
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Nov 7, 2015 03:56
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:That was Famine. You are correct! However, Pestilence didn't actually eat souls, so my point still stands.
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Nov 7, 2015 07:49
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rejutka posted:Kicking the entire "IMMA WINCHESTER" out is the best/honest since season five. I say this but, still, wanting Ash with Angel powers in his Luchador mask. What does any of this mean?
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Nov 7, 2015 10:15
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I was worried they wouldn't be keeping secrets for absolutely no reason, but they are, glad to see that's still going.
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Nov 12, 2015 10:03
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Dammit, took em all of one episode to go back to the SO MANY SECRETS thing.
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Nov 12, 2015 13:42
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Maybe I missed something but who was supposed to be in the box Sam was seeing? Was it just lucifer's cage thing? Or do we not know yet? e: vv I figured. Also they really love the "shitload of chains and hooks" Hellraiser-style version of Hell don't they? yeah I eat ass fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Nov 12, 2015 |
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Nov 12, 2015 14:56
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Twas the cage. Might have been Lucifer, might have been Michael, might have been a vision of Sam grabbing the walls. No idea. Kinda surprised it looks that small though.
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Nov 12, 2015 15:02
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Supernatural's strongest season in years keeps running all cylinders.
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Nov 12, 2015 18:02
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Dammit, took em all of one episode to go back to the SO MANY SECRETS thing. Man, give Sam an episode or two to decompress. He's trying to hard to change!
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Nov 12, 2015 18:29
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I have to give them credit to finally copping to the "Saving people" thing this season. While the "SECRETS!" thing is still hit or miss, they do seem to be addressing some of the other minor un-resolved/addressed things from past years: God, Perma-death, the Cage, etc.
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Nov 12, 2015 18:31
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Teek posted:I have to give them credit to finally copping to the "Saving people" thing this season. While the "SECRETS!" thing is still hit or miss, they do seem to be addressing some of the other minor un-resolved/addressed things from past years: God, Perma-death, the Cage, etc. I was laughing my rear end off for all the wrong reasons when Sam brought up the fact, gee, they could exorcise someone and Dean was so utterly clueless to the idea that he had to be told "Save the meatsuit" like he's some kind of alien that doesn't speak English it's so foreign to him. Either way I appreciate them at least trying again for the first time in like 6 seasons to actually not murder people they don't have to kill. If anything that hallway fight was kind of a new status quo thing I'm thinking, where "Yeah if we can save people we do, but if we have to kill someone we do," which is what it always should have been. Anyone remember the first episode where they had to straight up gank people with the demon knife? It was a big deal, and the only way to even make the attempt was to skip exorcisms and just ice everyone quietly and quickly. That was really effective because there wasn't a choice; saving people there would have been suicidal. That was effective and it added to the scene, a lot, because it wasn't an ignored factor by the writers. It shows there's definitely a balance there. Unfortunately I think every writer on the show after looked at that scene and just decided "Well they can go on kill-crazy rampages now because they did once." Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Nov 12, 2015 |
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Nov 12, 2015 23:05
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I seem to remember somewhere after Hell was kicked wide open and before the Cas-Crowley Battle for Souls started there was something about the demons that got out rode their meat suits so hard for so long that they were basically already dead and there was no point in exorcising them. It was weak but they at least tried to explain the massive amounts of gankings.
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Nov 12, 2015 23:11
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To be fair, since the moment Crowley took over as king of hell it has been the standard procedure for demons to use dead bodies as meatsuits.
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Nov 12, 2015 23:13
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:To be fair, since the moment Crowley took over as king of hell it has been the standard procedure for demons to use dead bodies as meatsuits. I thought dead bodies couldn't be inhabited. Because otherwise, why wouldn't they just always do that?
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Nov 13, 2015 00:20
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raditts posted:I thought dead bodies couldn't be inhabited. Because otherwise, why wouldn't they just always do that? I think demons had the whole "terrorism is good" thing going on for a while (like the first episode on the airplane) so it's more terrifying to have a guy do a murder suicide on his family than have another random dude do it.
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Nov 13, 2015 00:28
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I'm not sure this is ~secrets~, I think Sam and Dean are so far over their heads that they don't really understand what is happening yet. They literally don't have the words to explain it to each other. The vague maybe visions, maybe dreams, maybe hallucinations may be less clear in their brains than they are on our TV screens.Murphy Brownback posted:Maybe I missed something but who was supposed to be in the box Sam was seeing? Was it just lucifer's cage thing? Or do we not know yet? It could have been Lucifer's cage, but those didn't look like man fingers to me. Maybe it was the cage that held **THE DARKNESS** instead. It it was Lucifer's cage, maybe it's a sign that Amara can be contained there? Maybe the cage was really built for her, her bro seems to have thought her escape was possible and worth planning for, what with alarms in both heaven and hell. Facebook Aunt fucked around with this message at 02:24 on Nov 13, 2015 |
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Nov 13, 2015 02:21
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Angela Christine posted:I'm not sure this is ~secrets~, I think Sam and Dean are so far over their heads that they don't really understand what is happening yet. They literally don't have the words to explain it to each other. The vague maybe visions, maybe dreams, maybe hallucinations may be less clear in their brains than they are on our TV screens. What the gently caress are they going to do, find the horsemen's rings to open the cage? Well, it's not too late for Sam to agree to be possessed by Lucifer so we get the future scenario where Castiel is a hippie that loves orgies.
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Nov 13, 2015 05:31
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They have METATRON to see if there's a way to kajiggle the lock. After Cas beats the poo poo out of him again. I loved he put him in traction but didn't heal him.
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Nov 13, 2015 05:57
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:They have METATRON to see if there's a way to kajiggle the lock. In America. I bet Metatron doesn't have health insurance either.
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Nov 13, 2015 05:59
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Tiggum posted:What does any of this mean? It means someone forgot to take his meds.
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Nov 13, 2015 07:37
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Is it me or is this the best season (so far) since 5?
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Nov 13, 2015 14:01
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Pillowpants posted:Is it me or is this the best season (so far) since 5? I think I would agree with that so far. I think it will all depend on how they deal with the darkness now that we know what it is.
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Pillowpants posted:Is it me or is this the best season (so far) since 5? Yeah, I think so, though I'll be surprised if they top "Baby."It's been a while since my eyes haven't sort of glazed over while they fumble the main plot along, though, and this season I'm enjoying it. Of course, when they defeat Darkness then the only thing left to top it all is to bring God back into the game. I like the mythology they've built, but unless there are BIGGER gods out there I'm not sure where it all can go.
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