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babypolis posted:lol why do you still believe trump is a stealth socialist I don't think he's a stealth socialist, but I do think he's relatively left economically and right socially for a Republican, while Paul was extra right economically and slightly left socially.
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Jewel Repetition posted:I don't think he's a stealth socialist, but I do think he's relatively left economically and right socially for a Republican, while Paul was extra right economically and slightly left socially. Neither of those seem true.
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Kylra posted:I want this to happen now. It did happen, last night. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/06/hillary-clinton-cracks-up-at-ben-carson-s-pyramid-comments-on-kimmel.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFvJBwMkA8c 7:00 into the video Atoramos fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Nov 6, 2015 |
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this image tells you literally everything you need to know about republican politics in 2015
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I know a lot of people that equate thinking about serving their country with actually serving their country, so he's got the washed up middle-aged trucker vote on lockdown.
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Atoramos posted:It did happen, last night.
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"If a lot of people loved each other, the world would be a better place to live." - Dr. Ben Carson
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tinstaach posted:"If a lot of people loved each other, the world would be a better place to live" - Dr. Ben Carson "So Dr. Carson, are you saying you support polygamy?" -Liberal gottcha respsone
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Jeb Bush just told Neil Cavuto that he backs Carson. Sorry Carson, you're done. EDIT: Carson is going to be on Hannity later. Let's see what the good Doctor has to say. Montasque fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Nov 6, 2015 |
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wait as i understand it the story is carson said "i had lunch with some guy from some school and he offered me a scholarship which i turned down" but now The Truth is "carson had lunch with some guy who maybe said he would like to help him apply and possibly get a scholarship but carson didn't go through with it" I dont rally understand how scholarships work in the us but why is this a big deal except that it comes just after the pyramid thing which also doesnt seem like a big deal and the stab-thing which is weird
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Carson's popular enough, and the folks inclined to like him are suspicious enough of TEH LIBRUL MEDIA, that I don't think this is quite the tipping point for him y-Montasque posted:Jeb Bush just told Neil Cavuto that he backs Carson. Oh yeah, never mind, he's hosed.
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Sai posted:wait as i understand it the story is carson said "i had lunch with some guy from some school and he offered me a scholarship which i turned down" but now The Truth is "carson had lunch with some guy who maybe said he would like to help him apply and possibly get a scholarship but carson didn't go through with it" There is no scholarship Such an invite would be impossible to offer The person supposedly offering the invite wasn't in the same state as Carson at the time
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Lum_ posted:this image tells you literally everything you need to know about republican politics in 2015 God, having a bunch of rabid, stupid people reading your poo poo must be absolutely incredible for lead generation.
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Sai posted:wait as i understand it the story is carson said "i had lunch with some guy from some school and he offered me a scholarship which i turned down" but now The Truth is "carson had lunch with some guy who maybe said he would like to help him apply and possibly get a scholarship but carson didn't go through with it" some guy? its general westmoreland
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Ben Carson admits fabricating West Point Scholarship http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/ben-carson-west-point-215598 lol
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Sai posted:wait as i understand it the story is carson said "i had lunch with some guy from some school and he offered me a scholarship which i turned down" but now The Truth is "carson had lunch with some guy who maybe said he would like to help him apply and possibly get a scholarship but carson didn't go through with it" also carson didnt have lunch with that guy: quote:In May of his senior year, he was chosen to march in the city’s Memorial Day parade.
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The response of "it was an informal offer" is enough that Carson will skate based on "MEDIA WITCH HUNT!!!" regardless of if the meeting even occurred or not.
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I think most of Carson's supporters are going to Trump so he's going to pull ahead even further.
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Honestly this might just push Carson up 10 points. The spin is going to take hold, I can guarantee it.
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Politico is liberal now?
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Why is JEB! 'backing' Carson? Maybe he wants him to stay in the race long enough to steal more Trump votes, IDK. IMHO the "Final Three" is going to be Trump (Rubio/JEB! winner) and Cruz.
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TheScott2K posted:Politico is liberal now? You bet! As we cull the conservative media of liberals in conservative clothing, we'll in the end just be reduced to OANN and @fucker_mcgee on Twitter.
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TheScott2K posted:Politico is liberal now? Politico is establishment Republican, but they have contributors from both ends of the spectrum (Rich Lowry is particularly bad). It's just scapegoating.
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Shakugan posted:The response of "it was an informal offer" is enough that Carson will skate based on "MEDIA WITCH HUNT!!!" regardless of if the meeting even occurred or not. I think this will hurt him. Carson is in the 20%-30% range but has lots of soft support. Between this and the Pyramid thing, and the hammer and stabbing things... It's just too much. Also he was terrible at the debate. Carson isn't toast, but this isn't good.
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Carson's supporters may be kicking and screaming in defiance of reality right now, but with time Carson's baggage will partially erode their trust, and it will make new supporters less likely to emerge.
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TheScott2K posted:Politico is liberal now? Along with Chief Justice John Roberts, CNBC, and Paul Ryan, yes.
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Jewel Repetition posted:I don't think he's a stealth socialist, but I do think he's relatively left economically and right socially for a Republican, while Paul was extra right economically and slightly left socially. actually i looked back and i missed the "still be republicans" part for some reason, which is why i thought you meant socialist, oops. still gently caress trump and all trumpistas
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Shadowhand00 posted:Carson is ridiculously condescending. Alisyn Camerota has to be a saint given the way he's talking down to her throughout that interview. Haha you can tell exactly when he starts to lose consciousness, when Camerota asks him why he should be President. "I dunno.....American people....98th sheep...I'm done...."
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Sai posted:wait as i understand it the story is carson said "i had lunch with some guy from some school and he offered me a scholarship which i turned down" but now The Truth is "carson had lunch with some guy who maybe said he would like to help him apply and possibly get a scholarship but carson didn't go through with it" West Point isn't like other colleges because it's a military academy. Technically, there are no scholarships there because there is no tuition cost. Carson claimed that a general met with him and suggested that if Carson were to apply, he would likely get in (he would need a sponsor, but the general implied that he could get one due to his grades). Carson claimed he declined the "offer." Honestly this mostly seems like an argument of semantics ("scholarship" vs. "recommendation to apply and hint of sponsorship") combined with Carson probably twisting the truth a little to make himself look better. I don't think this is going to hurt Carson at all; his shtick so far has been "the media are liars" and there's enough truth to his account that his supporters won't care at all. If anything it will just feed into his narrative and people might ignore the pyramid/knife stabbing stories altogether.
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So that's two Presidential campaigns William Westmoreland destroyed now. He's racking up a pretty impressive kill count.
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Joementum posted:So that's two Presidential campaigns William Westmoreland destroyed now. He's racking up a pretty impressive kill count. Well he is the guy who pioneered the idea of body count as the true measure of progress, after all.
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Sai posted:wait as i understand it the story is carson said "i had lunch with some guy from some school and he offered me a scholarship which i turned down" but now The Truth is "carson had lunch with some guy who maybe said he would like to help him apply and possibly get a scholarship but carson didn't go through with it" the pyramid thing was nearly twenty years ago and people are thinking he just said it lol
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I don't think the scholarship thing would have much effect on its own, but together with everything else happening at the same time it might.
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ashgromnies posted:the pyramid thing was nearly twenty years ago and people are thinking he just said it lol He was asked about it and said he still believes it
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ashgromnies posted:the pyramid thing was nearly twenty years ago and people are thinking he just said it lol He recently reaffirmed it so it's not like he changed his mind on the matter
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Jewel Repetition posted:I don't think the scholarship thing would have much effect on its own, but together with everything else happening at the same time it might. its too convoluted to be a big issue. the thing is the media is really starting to smell the blood in the water with carson probably embellishing a lot of stuff he said plus just refusing to walk back on some his stupider comments and this new story just adds to the increasingly attractive narrative of carson being a liar it seems a lil unfair but then again everything that man says is horrifying so gently caress him
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I doubt the West Point thing will really hurt Carson but its kind of drawing into view the fact that Carson's entire biography and past is filled with embellishments and questionable decisions and ideas. And Carson's a huge rear end in a top hat when he gets questioned about it and I think that can probably hurt him in the end run. That CNN interview is painful and Carson comes off like a gaping rear end in a top hat. Now his supporters and the anti media people will all eat it up but he can't spend months and months dodging any questions about himself while being as condescending as humanly possible to every reporter or moderator who poses those questions. Eventually that will have to catch up to him, right? Even if it just becomes Carson's excuse to withdraw from the race because everyone is so mean to him.
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memy posted:He was asked about it and said he still believes it good, because it's true
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STAC Goat posted:I doubt the West Point thing will really hurt Carson but its kind of drawing into view the fact that Carson's entire biography and past is filled with embellishments and questionable decisions and ideas. And Carson's a huge rear end in a top hat when he gets questioned about it and I think that can probably hurt him in the end run. That CNN interview is painful and Carson comes off like a gaping rear end in a top hat. Now his supporters and the anti media people will all eat it up but he can't spend months and months dodging any questions about himself while being as condescending as humanly possible to every reporter or moderator who poses those questions. Eventually that will have to catch up to him, right? Even if it just becomes Carson's excuse to withdraw from the race because everyone is so mean to him. Yeah, the West Point thing is nothing on its own but a lot of poo poo has been building up the past few weeks and something's gotta give soon.
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