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Jia posted:Yeah, references to real world things making their way to Midworld have been there since literally the first book. Why are the later ones so much more egregious? in later books they become the entire basis for the plot, like the wolves of the calla which are portrayed on the book's cover and ad copy as some incredible threat, then end up being a stupid joke with a bunch of pop culture references. so it's stupid.
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corn in the bible posted:in later books they become the entire basis for the plot, like the wolves of the calla which are portrayed on the book's cover and ad copy as some incredible threat, then end up being a stupid joke with a bunch of pop culture references. so it's stupid. I was incredibly disappointed.
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Yeah, the dark tower starts to go downhill fast. But i am ok with it because the Meijis story is just about he best adventure/western thing Ive ever read.
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http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3368274/stephen-kings-it-to-film-next-summer/ Seems like another film adaptation of a Stephen King book is going to be complete shite.
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Dead Goon posted:http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3368274/stephen-kings-it-to-film-next-summer/ What makes you think that, the director?
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11/22/63 might be good on TV, too bad it's on Hulu though. It's going to be 9 hours of shows: http://io9.com/heres-your-first-look-at-james-franco-in-hulus-11-22-63-1739802243 Also, new King book out tomorrow. I don't know anything about it other than it is short stories and has some new ones, so not sure how many are older stories already published. http://www.amazon.com/The-Bazaar-Bad-Dreams-Stories/dp/1501111671
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WattsvilleBlues posted:What makes you think that, the director? look up why the first director quit
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In a perfect world, Fukunaga would still be on the project and it would be another miniseries on HBO and Tim Curry was 25 years younger. The actor they want for Pennywise, Will Poulter is such a weird choice, too young and goofy looking. I haven't read any of King's short stories since the last collection came out so I'm really stoked on picking up Bazaar of Bad Dreams tomorrow. The title sounds like an episode of Are You Afraid of the Dark though.
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WattsvilleBlues posted:What makes you think that, the director? No, the fact that once again a Stephen King story is going to be stripped of its horror and suspense because why not?! No Mummies or Werewolves! Do any of these "Directors" actually read the books? I abhor Stanley "Hack" Kubrick's The Shining for much the same reasons.
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Nov 3, 2015 19:36
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Movies shouldn't be word-for-word translations of their books, though; what would be the point of that?
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Dead Goon posted:No, the fact that once again a Stephen King story is going to be stripped of its horror and suspense because why not?! By what standard on Earth is Stanley Kubrick a hack and Stephen King not?
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The Time Dissolver posted:By what standard on Earth is Stanley Kubrick a hack and Stephen King not? Seriously wth I guess watch the tv movie version that's faithful to the source  but the interplay between Kubrick and King is amazing.Literal early morning phone calls about the afterlife, car colors switched around out of spite/artistry, whole scenes changed around for nebulous reasons. That movie has so much backstory it's ridiculous.
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Kubrick's a ridiculously demanding director with probably more than his fair share of eccentricities, but that isn't at all the same thing as a hack. I can't even think of a definition of "hack" that could include things like Paths of Glory. Seriously, the guy who did _Spartacus_ is a hack? What?
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Safe Driver posted:In a perfect world, Fukunaga would still be on the project and it would be another miniseries on HBO and Tim Curry was 25 years younger. The actor they want for Pennywise, Will Poulter is such a weird choice, too young and goofy looking. I always like the short story collections because, unlike a lot of King's work, even if a story kind of sucks it's usually almost over. Plus, I like that he doesn't toil and overwrite the endings. Often his short stories just sort of end for no reason and they're usually the better for it. I could see remaking "IT". The book was pretty great and the TV series wasted so much acting talent that it was criminal. I don't know enough about Poulter to have an opinio one way ore another but Curry is gonna be hard to top.
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BiggerBoat posted:I always like the short story collections because, unlike a lot of King's work, even if a story kind of sucks it's usually almost over. Plus, I like that he doesn't toil and overwrite the endings. Often his short stories just sort of end for no reason and they're usually the better for it. This can't be said enough.
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Jia posted:Movies shouldn't be word-for-word translations of their books, though; what would be the point of that? No Country for Old Men worked out pretty well but by and large I agree with you.
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Nov 3, 2015 22:33
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The best thing a Stephen King movie can do is be a really good drama film first, and be a really excellent horror film second.
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Phanatic posted:Kubrick's a ridiculously demanding director with probably more than his fair share of eccentricities, but that isn't at all the same thing as a hack. I can't even think of a definition of "hack" that could include things like Paths of Glory. Goons love to think famous directors are hacks. Kubrick, Spielberg, Ridley Scott? All hacks apparently.
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Murphy Brownback posted:Goons love to think famous directors are hacks. Kubrick, Spielberg, Ridley Scott? All hacks apparently. They all have kinda questionable poo poo in their histories but amazing cinematography in between.
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BiggerBoat posted:No Country for Old Men worked out pretty well but by and large I agree with you. While it was almost word for word they did cut a small subplot where Llewellyn picks up a hitchhiker near the end and she gets killed with him in the motel shootout.
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syscall girl posted:Seriously wth Is there a good documentary about this? I've already seen 237.
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Cast Iron Brick posted:Is there a good documentary about this? I've already seen 237. Kubrick's Gold Story is amazing. The guy who made it is a nutter about gold but he makes some impressive observations nonetheless. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoWZEwedPkc
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The Shining is a pretty personal book and I can understand why King disliked the changes Kubrick made to it but The Shining as a film is honestly better than the book. It's just absurdly nihilistic compared to the book.
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ImpAtom posted:The Shining is a pretty personal book and I can understand why King disliked the changes Kubrick made to it but The Shining as a film is honestly better than the book. It's just absurdly nihilistic compared to the book. It's hard to hate on The Shining, both the book and the film. Is it OK to like both? The movie is one of those where I'll usually stop and watch at least some of it every time it's on; like Goodfellas, JAWS, Lebowski, etc.
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BiggerBoat posted:It's hard to hate on The Shining, both the book and the film. Is it OK to like both? The movie is one of those where I'll usually stop and watch at least some of it every time it's on; like Goodfellas, JAWS, Lebowski, etc. Yeah I don't see why you wouldn't think of it as two separate works by artists at the top of their respective games.
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The book is a great book and the movie is a great movie, just because Stephen King is up his own butt about it doesn't mean the rest of us have to be.
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I finished The Wind Through The Keyhole I liked it. I loved being back in this universe. I didn't understand the meaning of "the wind through the keyhole" I just thought it was SK trying to be deeper than he actually is also did they ever explain why Tim's dad's partner killed Tim's dad. I guess just to steal his coin? now reading Everything's Eventual. I finished Autopsy Room 4, That was cool I liked when the guy got a boner
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I'm gonna get Bazaar of Bad Dreams tomorrow. I'm excited  I don't think I've read a single SK short story since his last collection apart from "In The Tall Grass". So this book's contents are all new to me.Has anyone read it yet?
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I've started it, I've only read the first story though. The only one in here that I've read before (I think) is Blockade Billy which I own a hard copy of so I'm looking forward to reading all of these too.
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Audible delivered me the audiobook so I'm a few stories in. The first few have been published before but it was my first time with them. The funniest thing so far is that in his intro to MILE 81 he admits the first time he wrote the story (Which he lost) he was dropping acid. It explains so much. I think even when the stories aren't great he's just able to draw characters well. 'Batman & Robin Have An Altercation' is a great example of that. It's drawn with enough detail that it could just be about a guy going around with his old man and it would be enough.
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I'm making my way through Bazaar of Bad Dreams. I'm only a handful of stories in, but so far none of them have really left much of an impression on me. I liked A Death, but I read it earlier in the New Yorker. Still have quite a few left to go. Maybe it'll get turned around for me.
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I started it last night after I finished The Causal Angel by Hannu Rajaniemi. I was bummed when I started Mile 81 and realized I'd already read it somewhere online (probably linked from this thread), so I did like any good King fan I just re-read the death scenes and the very end. "Premium Harmony" was a head-scratcher. "Batman and Robin Have An Altercation" was good, if odd. Holy poo poo "The Dune" really got me. I won't say why, but it's really good. I'll pick up with "Bad Little Kid" when I settle down to read tonight.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:The best thing a Stephen King movie can do is be a really good drama film The Shawshank Redemption is the best adaptation of a King story that exists.
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Zamboni_Rodeo posted:The Shawshank Redemption is the best adaptation of a King story that exists. he tells an anecdote between the stories in bad dreams where he was at the grocery store and a lady comes up to him and is like "your stuff is too gross, you should make stuff with happy endings, like the shawshank redemption" and king goes "i wrote that too" and she goes "no you didnt" and walks away
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Zamboni_Rodeo posted:The Shawshank Redemption is the best adaptation of a King story that exists. Followed by The Green Mile.
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scary ghost dog posted:he tells an anecdote between the stories in bad dreams where he was at the grocery store and a lady comes up to him and is like "your stuff is too gross, you should make stuff with happy endings, like the shawshank redemption" and king goes "i wrote that too" and she goes "no you didnt" and walks away And it's elephants all the way down sonny
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Well "Mile 81" loving sucked. Like, it was genuinely scary and gruesome, but it went literally nowhere and King farted out the shittiest ending I've read to any of his stories yet. I hope the rest of the collection is more satisfying than that.
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Hedrigall posted:Well "Mile 81" loving sucked. Like, it was genuinely scary and gruesome, but it went literally nowhere and King farted out the shittiest ending I've read to any of his stories yet. I hope the rest of the collection is more satisfying than that. ya it was like the raft but he wasnt willing to go the places he used to go with the cast he had created
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Five stories in and every single one has taken unnecessary jabs at fat people. Never change, Steve!
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