Best Sailor Senshi? This poll is closed. |
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Sailor Moon/Usagi Tsukino | 6 | 4.51% | |
Sailor Mercury/Ami Mizuno | 15 | 11.28% | |
Sailor Mars/Rei Hino | 23 | 17.29% | |
Sailor Jupiter/Makoto Kino | 42 | 31.58% | |
Sailor Venus/Minako Aino | 6 | 4.51% | |
why didnt you put the outers on here fucker | 41 | 30.83% | |
Total: | 133 votes |
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you can evaluate whether the gameplay in ace attorney is successful on its merits, just because you're not jumping on goombas doesn't mean it's not gameplay!!
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:28 |
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# ? Jun 10, 2024 11:34 |
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Tarranon posted:games should be fun to play, above all..but a good experience counts as well games are made up of many parts. they all need to be working together on some level to create good experiences. you can still enjoy one aspect without the other aspects and obviously a game with good gameplay but bad music is more enjoyable than a bad game with good music, but they're still all working together. saying only one part matters is really dumb.
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:28 |
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There are definitely games i have enjoyed for story reasons even if they're not the best gameplay-wise. I think saying only gameplay matters is very limiting
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:28 |
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gameplay is the primary part. if its bad then a game will be no fun to play even if everything else is good
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:29 |
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her shoes are wrong
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:29 |
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Tarranon posted:you can evaluate whether the gameplay in ace attorney is successful on its merits, just because you're not jumping on goombas doesn't mean it's not gameplay!! yeah, but nobody would call an ace attorney game with a bad story and soundtrack good.
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:29 |
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honestly the idea that games have to be fun is pretty limiting unto itself
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:29 |
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Tarranon posted:you can evaluate whether the gameplay in ace attorney is successful on its merits, just because you're not jumping on goombas doesn't mean it's not gameplay!! But what makes the AA games fun is partially the writing and partially figuring out the mysteries. I don't think "the player thinking" can be counted as part of gameplay
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:29 |
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Parallax posted:honestly the idea that games have to be fun is pretty limiting unto itself what
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:29 |
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:30 |
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using phoenix wright as an example, saying objection at von karma is satisfying not just because you solved a puzzle, but because the story's thrown so many obstacles in your way + the guy has been portrayed as a serious bastard, you figure out the one way to nail him to the cross, that sweet music kicks in, and you finally start to see him sweat. it's all the parts of the game working together to create a cool moment.
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:30 |
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Sharkopath posted:A lot of things matter, and sometimes something has parts that work really well and parts that are awful but the whole thing together is really exciting and lots of fun. yeah, gameplay works in tandem with other elements to create an appealing game, with individual games focusing on some aspects over others. most people would pick a game with a story, soundtrack, and general aesthetic that appeals to them over a game that plays a bit better but doesn't appeal as much in those other categories.
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:30 |
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homeless snail posted:her shoes are wrong AH GEEZ
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:30 |
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FirstAidKite posted:AH GEEZ
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:31 |
Minami-ke...heck yes
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:31 |
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homeless snail posted:shoes are the most important part of elephant cosplay, they're the mechanics of the outfit yea i didnt even notice those are some wizard of oz slippers lol
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:32 |
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Elphelt is cool, but is only a second tier Guilty Gear.
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:32 |
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for example, there are some games that make people miserable, like dota
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:32 |
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the wildest rear end posted:gameplay is the primary part. if its bad then a game will be no fun to play even if everything else is good
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:33 |
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Im gonna pull the curtain back and reveal I've only played the first Ace Attorney game and then stopped because I liked the live action movie 100x more and I'm really jazzed for the anime.
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:34 |
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i have learned from people who do lots of cosplay that a good tip for shoes is to not actually get new shoes, but to make shoe covers that disguise your shoes to look like other shoes. this doesnt always work but it is a good thing to know, and can certainly save a lot of headache since instead of having to find or make shoes out of a particular material, you could just make a slip-on thing that goes over the shoes and looks just as good, and is most likely more comfortable to wear
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:34 |
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I'm gonna cover you up in the curtains again.
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:34 |
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In Training posted:Im gonna pull the curtain back and reveal I've only played the first Ace Attorney game and then stopped because I liked the live action movie 100x more and I'm really jazzed for the anime. Play the rest of the Ace Attorney games.
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:35 |
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hes right
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:35 |
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2uanw8
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:36 |
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Parallax posted:for example, there are some games that make people miserable, like dota im sure the broken people who play that still consider it fun
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:36 |
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Endorph posted:saying 'fun to play' is dumb tho because stuff like music, visuals, and yes, story, can enhance the gameplay. Yeah, and different people are going to value different things. To use Tales as an example, somebody might say Graces f is the best because it has their favorite battle system, but another person, even if they agree on that count, might prefer another game for things like characters and aesthetic despite having what they find to be somewhat worse gameplay.
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:36 |
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Some games no longer become fun because I am playing them on the highest possible difficulty and am only getting enjoyment put of the raw satisfaction achieved from victory over torturous odds.
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:36 |
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One day... Juarez gunslinger on true west.... One day.....
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:37 |
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Motto posted:Yeah, and different people are going to value different things. To use Tales as an example, somebody might say Graces f is the best because it has their favorite battle system, but another person, even if they agree on that count, might prefer another game for things like characters and aesthetic despite having what they find to be somewhat worse gameplay.
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:37 |
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Sharkopath posted:Some games no longer become fun because I am playing them on the highest possible difficulty and am only getting enjoyment put of the raw satisfaction achieved from victory over torturous odds. That can be fun, like a Platinum game
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:37 |
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Endorph posted:i mean if a game is actively torturous to play, sure, you can tell, but it's kind of hard to pin down 'good gameplay' because you could take literally the exact same gameplay segment, give it two different coats of paint - different music, different UI, different visual style - and players would feel very differently about even the gameplay, and probably even approach the game differently. I've heard people say that the WiiU new super mario game is really well designed, but a lot of people are still gonna write it off because they find the visuals and audio to be tiringly bland at this point.
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:38 |
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:38 |
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" Western developers design from the screen out...Japanese design from the controller in" <--- good quote I saw somewhere
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:38 |
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homeless snail posted:those people are dumb
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:38 |
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it's true. but, imo, all games should be interesting. if something can provide a really unique experience while not being fun in the traditional sense of "learning and mastering systems" that 99% of games are comprised of, it's worthwhile as an experience THAT SAID I'm also glad of the gameplay uber alles philosophy because those beliefs have created some of the best video games of the decade, hotline miami being the easiest example good work and artists in general are pretty much all made by rabid ideologues whether they realize it or not. that's what makes it fun and interesting to see the world of art is fun because it's got so many perspectives..even ones that are pretty objectively wrong..
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:38 |
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In Training posted:" Western developers design from the screen out...Japanese design from the controller in" <--- good quote I saw somewhere
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:39 |
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Has anyone tried to go the next level with a fighting game and make a game of nothing but hitboxes for visuals.
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 05:39 |
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Endorph posted:for finding different things important in video games? hes right
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Endorph posted:for finding different things important in video games?
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