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blindjoe
Jan 10, 2001

leica posted:

I'll be doing the entire interview with the bar manager going over things as well.

I'll search on what not to ask, thanks.

[e] Basically looking for some suggestions from any of you guys that are experienced with giving interviews.

If you were a fish, what kind of fish would you be?

correct answer:

profit fish to bring your company more profit

slightly correct answer:

teamwork fish to work together

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BrokenKnucklez
Apr 22, 2008

by zen death robot

Rhyno posted:

2015 is almost over. Go buy it.

Totally rock macklemore in that beast.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

blindjoe posted:

If you were a fish, what kind of fish would you be?

correct answer:

profit fish to bring your company more profit

slightly correct answer:

teamwork fish to work together

Lol.

What letter is not in the word TEAM you have five seconds :colbert:

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

🤗YOU'RE WELCOME🤗
Z.

Checkmate.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

WRONG you're fired.

I mean not hired.

Jerk.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
Leica:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYvHpVwIqYY

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Phone: Have have you ever put your dick in your Miata's tailpipe?

Boaz MacPhereson
Jul 11, 2006

Day 12045 Ht10hands 180lbs
No Name
No lumps No Bumps Full life Clean
Two good eyes No Busted Limbs
Piss OK Genitals intact
Multiple scars Heals fast
O NEGATIVE HI OCTANE
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ISOLATE PSYCHOTIC
Keep muzzled...

BrokenKnucklez posted:

Nope.

http://desmoines.craigslist.org/cto/5303517623.html

I am sure the interior is beat to hell though and rust.... I just can't deal with any more rust. And a smogger 305 is just a boat anchor anyways.

Oof. That dent in the quarter is a monster. I'd say that's a pass. Too bad.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

BrokenKnucklez posted:

Totally rock macklemore in that beast.

Now you HAVE to buy it.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

leica posted:

Phone: Have have you ever put your dick in your Miata's tailpipe?

Something something not a turbo something 4" exhaust definitely no.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

leica posted:

Lol.

What letter is not in the word TEAM you have five seconds :colbert:

It's not "i"

Because that is in the A-hole in "TEAM"

Galler
Jan 28, 2008


BraveUlysses posted:

Costco is selling LED garage lights @ $30 right now. I have three in my garage and could probably use one more.

I have 8 of these in my 20x25 garage and :iia: I will never not have a work space with good lighting again.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

kastein posted:

It's not "i"

Because that is in the A-hole in "TEAM"

There's no i, but there is a ME :smug:

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

leica posted:

[e] Basically looking for some suggestions from any of you guys that are experienced with giving interviews.

I have a lot of experience with engineering interviews, where you spend most of your time asking general and specific technical questions all the while hoping they reveal enough of their personality in the process for you to decide if you want to work with them. If they pass the technical bar.

Anyone I talk to about interviewing for a non-technical position says it's a lot harder because there's no objective stuff to check through.

I use something like the following to try to break through folks who put up a super polished "I'm exactly whatever you're looking for" front:
- tell me about a challenging and not ideal situation you had in your last job
- what did you learn from it? what would you do differently next time?
- what would you do to prevent it?

If they can't name a real situation, they haven't had much work experience (could be ok, depending on the job) or they lack the awareness to identify when things are bad.
Watch for whether they assign blame, or if they can be diplomatic.
See if they can articulate why it was bad and provide a reasonable context.

Glib interviewees who give glib answers can't provide a good answer to this kind of question. When poo poo is bad, nothing is cut and dry. You can't just tidy things away.

I also ask: what are you looking for to be different about this job compared to your current one?
It's code for "why do you want out of your current job" while not forcing them to discuss that if they don't want to.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
You're in a desert, walking along in the sand when all of a sudden you look down and see a tortoise. It's crawling toward you. You reach down and flip the tortoise over on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over. But it can't. Not with out your help. But you're not helping.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad
What's a tortoise?

BrokenKnucklez
Apr 22, 2008

by zen death robot

Boaz MacPhereson posted:

Oof. That dent in the quarter is a monster. I'd say that's a pass. Too bad.

Yeah, and no interior shots makes think that's trashed. To bad, it is even the right color that I want.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

kimbo305 posted:

What's a tortoise?

Know what a turtle is? Same thing.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

kimbo305 posted:

Anyone I talk to about interviewing for a non-technical position says it's a lot harder because there's no objective stuff to check through.

Yeah, that's basically the situation I'm in as my job is a giant subjective grey area (security). It's pretty much just trying to see if they have the right personality and temperament for the job. I don't want anyone with too much experience coming in trying to do it "their way" so I need someone that will just do what I tell them to do as well.

Great advice though, I appreciate it.

Phone posted:

You're in a desert, walking along in the sand when all of a sudden you look down and see a tortoise. It's crawling toward you. You reach down and flip the tortoise over on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over. But it can't. Not with out your help. But you're not helping.

I'd call the cops and let them deal with it :colbert:

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

leica posted:

I'd call the cops and let them deal with it :colbert:

Describe in single words only the good things that come to your mind about your mother.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Phone posted:

Describe in single words only the good things that come to your mind about your mother.

Do you make up these questions phone? Or does IOC write them down for you.

Let me tell you about my mother.......

MustardFacial
Jun 20, 2011
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I really hate egotistical engineers. But at the same time all you have to do is say their profession is "mundane" and then suggest that anyone with a couple of textbooks and a weekend free could do what they do and they get so loving mad.


It's a love/hate relationship really. :v:

BoostCreep
May 3, 2004

Might I ask where you keep your forced induction accessories?
Grimey Drawer
So I'm checking this out on Sunday. I'm pretty sure it's a stupid idea. I really shouldn't buy it, but I can probably get it for $500 or under and sell it for the same if it ends up being a REALLY stupid idea.



I mean I have to do something with this drat T-56 sitting in my garage.

LloydDobler
Oct 15, 2005

You shared it with a dick.

kimbo305 posted:

Read up on what you can't ask someone in an interview. It's nothing crazy, but don't slip up.
What phase of the process are you covering?

What's interesting is that it's not that you can't ask the questions, it's just that you can't base a hiring decision on them. So if you ask the question then it's easy for them to say you didn't hire them for that reason and sue you. Things like 'how old are you' or 'are you single'.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

Man if we keep losing staff at this rate there's going to be nobody left but me and the GM by December. Down to 9 people, one of which is borrowed from another store and one who can't work nights. Only 3 drivers available for night shift now. :toot:

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Galler posted:

I have 8 of these in my 20x25 garage and :iia: I will never not have a work space with good lighting again.

Yep, I've got four of them in my two car garage. It's amazing.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Great Beer posted:

Man if we keep losing staff at this rate there's going to be nobody left but me and the GM by December. Down to 9 people, one of which is borrowed from another store and one who can't work nights. Only 3 drivers available for night shift now. :toot:

Hit up Papa John's. The corporate stores pay a bit less per hour, but pay more per delivery. Dunno about franchises, though I know their franchises have to have a lot more cash on hand than Pizza Hut franchisees (edit: to even think about opening a store)

Their stores also tend to be much cleaner.

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 10:26 on Nov 7, 2015

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003
AISS thread is open for registrations again. :circlefap:

literally a fish
Oct 2, 2014

German officer Johannes Bolter peeks out the hatch of his Tiger I heavy tank during a quiet moment before the Battle of Kursk - c:1943 (colorized)
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Sockington posted:

AISS thread is open for registrations again. :circlefap:

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)

leica posted:

Your GP is an idiot, get a second opinion. My 70+ yr old mother in law had both her knees replaced and it changed her life, although now her back is hosed. Getting old sucks :(

Nah, it's not my GP saying no, it's a surgeon.
Background is there's a long waiting list for free public operations, and free doctors visits in Australia. I've got a GP that normally charges $80 a visit as he's private/full billing, but he's seeing me at no charge as I walked in there a basket case one day on the verge of suicide. He's pulling strings with people he knows that are usually private/full billing that work on cases like myself on the side too occasionally. Otherwise I would have to use public GPs which are generally useless, and go on waiting lists that can take a year or more.

The surgeon said no, because he can. He volunteers some time to people who can't pay but needs help, (usually only does private health insurance jobs). It was just an avenue I could have used to jump a public queue if he was willing to do the operation. Anyway, this surgeon said no, so I have to go wait on the public system I guess.

What my GP was saying though, was these operations cause a lot of stress, and only last x amount of years, so they normally want to wait until you're 60 or something, rather than do it twice. Anyway, that's what I got from what they said to me.
E: like CT said, it's hard to make a case for 40 y/os needing knee replacement here if the public health system is going to be the one paying for it.
But that's my only option going forward, if I can't swing it past private gps and surgeons doing it for free on the side which is where we were going/hoping, I have to sign up with a public gp and surgeon to put my name on a list and wait a year or two, because I don't have any money and my left knee is starting to play up the same way.

Looked at another crappy house for rent with a massive 2 car workshop today...Why aren't I already living there instead of this dump!?

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 14:15 on Nov 7, 2015

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

I LOVE Musk and his pro-first-amendment ways. X is the future.

Fo3 posted:

Otherwise I would have to use public GPs which are generally useless, and go on waiting lists that can take a year or more.
But its "free" so it must be perfect.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

some texas redneck posted:

Hit up Papa John's. The corporate stores pay a bit less per hour, but pay more per delivery. Dunno about franchises, though I know their franchises have to have a lot more cash on hand than Pizza Hut franchisees (edit: to even think about opening a store)

Their stores also tend to be much cleaner.

I worked for the local papa johns as a teenager and got fired for being a lovely teenager. Same guy still runs it so I don't think I'm welcome there. :v:

Its a pain in the rear end but I make a shitload of money when were short staffed. Taking 2-3 orders out every time for 5-7 hours straight is pretty nice and makes the day go by quicker. Sucks for the customer but its not like they weren't told it would take two hours to get their poo poo to them.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Fo3 posted:

Nah, it's not my GP saying no, it's a surgeon.
Background is there's a long waiting list for free public operations, and free doctors visits in Australia. I've got a GP that normally charges $80 a visit as he's private/full billing, but he's seeing me at no charge as I walked in there a basket case one day on the verge of suicide. He's pulling strings with people he knows that are usually private/full billing that work on cases like myself on the side too occasionally. Otherwise I would have to use public GPs which are generally useless, and go on waiting lists that can take a year or more.

So if no one will do it for free (shocking), how much would it cost you out of pocket to have a private specialist do it? Could you take out a loan or something? I guess i don't get the system at all over there but it sounds horrible.

In the states there is no shortage of specialists willing to take your money to replace your knees whenever you want.

NitroSpazzz
Dec 9, 2006

You don't need style when you've got strength!


CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

Ahhhhh 530am in the office, Ice Coffee and Snickers for breakfast. Black Sabbath is also being piped to the emergency broadcast speakers of the floor. Nagios has one backup cube out, only a minor fix needed. Not the worst way to begin a Friday
Our Nagios flipped the gently caress out around 1am today. Blew the phone up with text messages every few seconds and I couldn't go to airplane mode because I'm on-call. Only ~200 messages this time, last time it was around 1500. Worst is we don't even have a 24/7 contract to maintain the thing anymore. Nagios :argh:

LloydDobler posted:

I've used it for 14 years. Selling it for $3k in the face of $20k for a seat of Pro/Engineer while making it compatible with Pro/E files was the smartest thing they could have ever done. Everyone I've worked for was desperate for a powerful 3d alternative.
I learned Pro/E sometime around middle school, transitioned to AutoCAD in High School and finally to Solidworks in College. I'd never use anything other than Solidworks if I had a choice. I will admit AutoCAD is really nice for quick 2D layout stuff.

Tusen Takk posted:

Ugh in the secfuck thread there was an amazing Defcon video about this and elevators and DB1 is down for me to go find it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUvGfuLlZus
Did not think I would be spending two hours watching a video about elevators this morning

Sockington posted:

AISS thread is open for registrations again. :circlefap:
:sassargh:


Local shop's E30 fall meet was Wednesday night to Sunday afternoon this weekend. Went Thursday and Friday and beat on the M5 for a while on wet roads in the mountains. All that fucker wants to do is slide. Wet roads but otherwise weather was nice and it was a good time, had to head back early to pickup on-call but oh well.

Anyone around Phoenix, AZ? This truck has been relisted several times but the drat guy won't tell me what he wants for it or even give me a hint what his reserve is. Think the highest it's gotten to is $2500. It's across the country and I'd probably ship both of them but I want to buy it. http://www.ebay.com/itm/262120637398

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

MustardFacial posted:

I really hate egotistical engineers. But at the same time all you have to do is say their profession is "mundane" and then suggest that anyone with a couple of textbooks and a weekend free could do what they do and they get so loving mad.

I like to tell egotistical (software) engineers that "unless someone's life depends on it working correctly, it's not engineering" and watch them hit the roof.

Designing a nuclear reactor: engineering
Writing software for car airbag systems: engineering
Writing software to let middle managers track the time their employees spend in the shitter: not engineering

Guess which group insists on being called an engineer, though

blk
Dec 19, 2009
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Sagebrush posted:

I like to tell egotistical (software) engineers that "unless someone's life depends on it working correctly, it's not engineering" and watch them hit the roof.

Designing a nuclear reactor: engineering
Writing software for car airbag systems: engineering
Writing software to let middle managers track the time their employees spend in the shitter: not engineering

Guess which group insists on being called an engineer, though

After a brief career in architecture it was pretty funny seeing different IT roles try to sex themselves up by misappropriating the term.

Also woohoo I'm king poo poo of poo poo town:

slurry_curry
Nov 26, 2003
<3mini-moni+animu^_^

Sagebrush posted:


Guess which group insists on being called an engineer, though

while I never insisted on being called an engineer, I did piss off people regularly when I would tell them I'm a systems engineer. the only reason I even told people my title was just because it was easier than trying to explain what I actually do to non tech people. it's not my fault the industry I work in gives people stupid titles (don't get me started on devops).

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Finally, everything's coming up Nuwen!

Those Harbor Freight pliers were what I needed to get the old valve seals off. I'm now halfway through the engine and I'm getting really good with that spring compressor. The hard part was shoving all the rope into the cylinder, but I figured out I can use a big wide screwdriver to sort of push it along the block right up to the spark plug hole. Once the rope's in, though, it really holds those valves nicely.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Negromancer posted:

while I never insisted on being called an engineer, I did piss off people regularly when I would tell them I'm a systems engineer. the only reason I even told people my title was just because it was easier than trying to explain what I actually do to non tech people. it's not my fault the industry I work in gives people stupid titles (don't get me started on devops).

In many countries (e.g. Canada), "engineer" is actually a protected title that requires accreditation with a professional organization, and allows you to notarize and witness documents in the same way that a doctor or lawyer can. It's a recognition that your reputation is completely tied to the quality of your work, and if the work fails, you're ruined. Some types of mechanical/electronic/software design fall into that category, others don't.

Does a "software engineer" updating the Yelp app care if it locks up the person's phone one time in a hundred? Probably not -- it's a minor inconvenience. No civil engineer is going to stamp a set of plans for a bridge that has a 1% chance of collapsing on any given day, though.

Here's a great article about true software engineering, as seen in the guidance computers for the Space Shuttle:

http://www.fastcompany.com/28121/they-write-right-stuff

Compare to the craigslist ads wanting "code ninjas" and "rockstar programmers" and the difference in attitude is pretty apparent.

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CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Sagebrush posted:

In many countries (e.g. Canada), "engineer" is actually a protected title that requires accreditation with a professional organization, and allows you to notarize and witness documents in the same way that a doctor or lawyer can. It's a recognition that your reputation is completely tied to the quality of your work, and if the work fails, you're ruined. Some types of mechanical/electronic/software design fall into that category, others don't.

Does a "software engineer" updating the Yelp app care if it locks up the person's phone one time in a hundred? Probably not -- it's a minor inconvenience. No civil engineer is going to stamp a set of plans for a bridge that has a 1% chance of collapsing on any given day, though.

Here's a great article about true software engineering, as seen in the guidance computers for the Space Shuttle:

http://www.fastcompany.com/28121/they-write-right-stuff

Compare to the craigslist ads wanting "code ninjas" and "rockstar programmers" and the difference in attitude is pretty apparent.

I'd argue if you write software that must not fail (Spacecraft, Mission Critical Systems, etc.) are engineers. Systems Architects are Engineers.

But yea, little bobby writing simple apps are not engineers.

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