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Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

http://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21677671-house-prices-sweden-continue-soar-regulators-despair-home-where
Article on financial regulations and swedish housing bubble.\

"ASK a central banker what regulators should do when rock-bottom rates cause house prices to soar, and the reply will almost always be “macropru”. Raising rates to burst house-price bubbles is a bad idea, the logic runs, since the needs of the broader economy may not square with those of the property market. Instead, “macroprudential” measures, meaning restrictions on mortgage lending and borrowing, are seen as the answer. But this medicine is hard to administer, as Sweden’s housing market vividly illustrates.

Swedish house prices have doubled in the past decade, their rapid ascent only briefly interrupted by the financial crisis (see chart). So far this year they have risen by about 14%. Apartment prices have been even giddier, rising by more than 150% in ten years."

Also describes Sweden's crazy interest only mortgages.

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B33rChiller
Aug 18, 2011





I see they're using the old spam technique of bad spelling and grammar to filter out the non-idiots.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012


You've convinced me, who do I phone?

Coolwhoami
Sep 13, 2007
Holy poo poo why is Australia still giving out 15k grants for people to buy new homes in a market like that.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Coolwhoami posted:

Holy poo poo why is Australia still giving out 15k grants for people to buy new homes in a market like that.

How do you think the market got like that lol

Deep Dish Fuckfest
Sep 6, 2006

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Toilet Rascal
Aw man, I was hoping they didn't specify any territorial restrictions so I could buy that wood-framed, granite-countertopful Vancouver condo with that interest-free free money. Say, do you think Instant Equity Group might be interested in going global anytime soon?

ductonius
Apr 9, 2007
I heard there's a cream for that...

Baronjutter posted:

Also describes Sweden's crazy interest only mortgages.

So, like, are these specifically designed to combine the worst aspects of both renting and buying, without having any of the upsides to either?

the talent deficit
Dec 20, 2003

self-deprecation is a very british trait, and problems can arise when the british attempt to do so with a foreign culture





ductonius posted:

So, like, are these specifically designed to combine the worst aspects of both renting and buying, without having any of the upsides to either?

they let you speculate on property prices with more leverage. interest only loans let you borrow larger sums than if you had to worry about paying down principal. if you intend on flipping the property you buy paying down principal is pointless

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Hey we have interest only loans to :australia: Our macroprudential is limiting their growth to 10% a year, so a whole lot of mortgages are becoming owner-occupier instead all of a sudden.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
This Kevin Sandhu shithead will be first against the wall.

gently caress grouplend

So innovative. A loving online payday loan. gently caress you you loving shitheel

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Didn't a whole bunch of online payday lenders get disrupted by usury laws in the U.K?

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe

Jumpingmanjim posted:

Didn't a whole bunch of online payday lenders get disrupted by usury laws in the U.K?

http://www.theguardian.com/money/2015/feb/05/wonga-escapes-criminal-investigation

Kinda. Turns out you can't pretend to have legal recourse when you don't.

More on grouplend:
http://business.financialpost.com/news/fp-street/vancouvers-grouplend-seeks-middle-class-canadians-for-individually-priced-loans

quote:


Instead, Grouplend, which relies heavily on technology and uses what it calls proprietary algorithms to determine credit worthiness, will approve between 25% and 50% of the applications.

quote:

In a sense, that’s the way it should be given that Grouplend is providing borrowers with three-year term money at rates from 6.5% – 17.50%; borrowing costs that are lower than what is charged by credit card companies or by payday loan providers. Unlike credit cards, Grouplend offers, “personalized pricing,” which means that rates vary between customers.

But one reason for the low approval rate is the low level of applications from Grouplend’s target audience: “prime quality middle class Canadian,” an audience that covers about 65% of the country’s households who are holding unsecured debt. First-time or new home buyers who are strapped but need extra cash “to cover moving costs or furnishing costs,” Sandhu said are an ideal customer.

But much of ideal customer group “doesn’t know about our product. [The result] we get a lot of people who have been rejected by banks or who are escaping from payday loan [providers] or other sub-prime loans that charge exorbitant interest rates. That’s not the audience we are set up to serve,” added Sandhu.

Instead, Sandhu’s target market is that segment of the population that “can go to the bank, who can get a credit card, but who are looking for something more affordable and a better option.”

As a result, Grouplend has, so far, received applications from customers “who have been turned away from banks, who we are just not set up to service.” Accordingly the near term challenge for Grouplend is “to raise awareness.”

"we lend to subprime customers who we don't think are subprime customers"

:rolleyes:

toss these motherfuckers on the hootsuite/dwave/general fusion trash fire pls.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
I've learned to embrace the word disrupted. As in a whole bunch of people in Silicon Valley gunna get their jobs disrupted when the whole things collapses.

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost

THC posted:

How I get my employees to work 80 hours a week


How to make employee work 80 hours: hire people willing to work 80 hours. Changing the face of an industry!

Sentence: Guillotine

the talent deficit
Dec 20, 2003

self-deprecation is a very british trait, and problems can arise when the british attempt to do so with a foreign culture





Cultural Imperial posted:

This Kevin Sandhu shithead will be first against the wall.

gently caress grouplend

So innovative. A loving online payday loan. gently caress you you loving shitheel

I checked out their careers page to see what they were paying (not enough probably, they list compensation as 'competitive') and realized my office looks across the street directly into theirs. Considering writing 'gently caress you kevin sandhu' on my window on monday morning

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
Apparently Hootsuite hired a real live CFO. They're going to IPO u guys!!!

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost

Cultural Imperial posted:

Apparently Hootsuite hired a real live CFO. They're going to IPO u guys!!!

Not touching that one with a 10 ft pole. No real potential to diversify or expand beyond their current model, so no significant future growth. No likelihood of being bought out because the social media platforms can just add a bit of code to replicate Hootsuite's functions.

Deep Dish Fuckfest
Sep 6, 2006

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Toilet Rascal
But they wouldn't be buying the code, they would be buying the brand!

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Cultural Imperial posted:

Apparently Hootsuite hired a real live CFO. They're going to IPO u guys!!!

I will kick in 50 cents.

blah_blah
Apr 15, 2006

The Butcher posted:

Not touching that one with a 10 ft pole. No real potential to diversify or expand beyond their current model, so no significant future growth. No likelihood of being bought out because the social media platforms can just add a bit of code to replicate Hootsuite's functions.

Not to mention that Twitter itself is watching its stock crater.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
IT BEGINS

quote:


Waning Sydney auction market hits new low on Saturday

The Sydney auction market hit a new low on Saturday, with the clearance rate dropping below 60 per cent for the first time in three years.

There were 1011 auctions scheduled for Saturday and with 652 results reported, Domain Group put the clearance rate at 59.2 per cent – well down on last weekend’s 64.4 per cent.

“The market has crashed below 60 per cent with no sign of bottoming out,” said Domain Group senior economist Dr Andrew Wilson.

No-one registered to bid at the auction of 73/22 Waruda Street, Kirribilli on Saturday. Photo: domain.com.au

“Parts of Sydney are now clearly buyers’ markets so if you’ve sold and you’re a buyer, that’s pretty good.”

On Saturday some sellers were shocked to discover that no buyers had turned up to their auction.

At Kirribilli, a two-bedroom apartment with a balcony and postcard views of the Opera House at 73/22 Waruda Street failed to attract any registered bidders despite 70 groups inspecting the property during its sales campaign.

Playfair House at 2 Ridge Street, North Sydney, passed in on a bid of $2.85 million on Saturday Photo: domain.com.au

Catherine O’Neill of Laing + Simmons North Sydney, who had issued five contracts, is now looking for offers over $800,000.

Up the road in North Sydney an 1885 five-bedroom Victorian terrace Playfair House passed in on a bid of $2.85 million failing to reach the reserve of $3 million.

Selling agent, Jennifer Hampton, had fielded more than 170 inquiries and issued 10 contracts on the commercial-residential zoned property.

This designer cottage at 18 Collins Street, Rozelle, also passed in on Saturday. The highest bid was $1.75 million, $75,000 short of the reserve.

“One bidder had a panic attack and walked out,” she said.

The first auction of the day was a three-bedroom weatherboard at 18 Collins Street, Rozelle.

Despite having undergone a tasteful renovation, the freestanding three-bedroom home passed in on the highest bid of $1.75 million, $75,000 short of the reserve.

This house at 18 Oswald Street, Randwick, sold for $2,865,000 at auction on Saturday. Photo: domain.com.au

Listing agent Matthew Hayson of Cobden & Hayson said there had been a “loss of confidence” in the market, with buyers unwilling to commit to purchasing until they themselves had sold.

“Two months ago they would have said, “Stuff it. I’ll buy this and then sell mine’,” he said.

“That’s not happening anymore. . . open home attendees have halved in the past two months.”

Other sellers were able to secure a sale on the day by revising their expectations. That was the case when a unique property at 18 Oswald Street in Randwick sold under the hammer for $2,865,000.

A crowd of about 80 gathered in the sunny backyard of the four-bedroom Federation house that drew wide interest for its granny flat in converted stables, level garden, pool and proximity to the planned light rail.

However, when bidding stalled at $2.81 million, vendors Penelope Roberts and her husband Nicholas agreed to call the property on the market, despite their undisclosed reserve.

The property sold to a young couple who plan to live in the home.

In pockets of Sydney there were still some strong sales on Saturday.

In the inner west, a two-bedroom Marrickville semi offered for the first time in 60 years sold for $1,115,000 – $115,000 above reserve.

A young couple came out on top of two other active bidders. All three parties had been home hunting for six months. The couple plan to renovate and live in the home at 1 Middle Street.

“Clearance rates are still quite strong if you are 10-15 kilometres from the city,”

“In the east and inner west properties are still selling . . . it is the other areas that are letting us down,” said selling agent Kate Webster of McGrath Inner West – Leichhardt.

Competition was also fierce at the auction of 17 Gelding Street in Dulwich Hill where a Federation house on 468 square metres sold for $1,801,000, $220,000 over reserve.

Shad Hassen of McGrath Estate Agents said the property was popular for its location, block size and potential to add value.

Despite the low clearance rate auctioneer Will Hampson of My Auctioneer had a good day on Saturday, selling seven out of his nine scheduled auctions.

He noted that buyers were thinner on the ground now that the prospect of capital growth had waned.

“After four years of growth the sentiment is that the market has capped out,” he said.


http://www.domain.com.au/news/waning-sydney-auction-market-hits-new-low-on-saturday-20151107-gkt8f9/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7OvPTmhtiY

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

𒃻 𒌓ð’‰𒋫 𒆷ð’€𒅅𒆷
𒆠𒂖 𒌉 𒌫 ð’®𒈠𒈾𒅗 𒂉 𒉡𒌒𒂉𒊑


THC posted:

How to make employee work 80 hours: hire people willing to work 80 hours. Changing the face of an industry!

I was an Electronic Arts orphan, my dad worked 10am-10pm often seven days a week and I have virtually no emotional connection with him. It really hosed up my mom too, like I mentioned my dad's 30+ year old Seiko Digiborg watch was featured in a new video game (Metal Gear Solid) and my mom was like "I bought him that watch because it was one of the few that had an alarm in the 80s and it was supposed to remind him to come home." :smith:

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Reverse Centaur posted:

my dad's 30+ year old Seiko Digiborg watch was featured in a new video game (Metal Gear Solid) and my mom was like "I bought him that watch because it was one of the few that had an alarm in the 80s and it was supposed to remind him to come home." :smith:

Holy poo poo that's depressing. Did they manage to stay together and spend more time together?

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
Jesus Christ that's terrible RC.

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum

Reverse Centaur posted:

I was an Electronic Arts orphan, my dad worked 10am-10pm often seven days a week and I have virtually no emotional connection with him. It really hosed up my mom too, like I mentioned my dad's 30+ year old Seiko Digiborg watch was featured in a new video game (Metal Gear Solid) and my mom was like "I bought him that watch because it was one of the few that had an alarm in the 80s and it was supposed to remind him to come home." :smith:

Christ, where was he working in the 80s industry that pulled that poo poo? EA didn't devolve to massive sweatshop till the mid to late 90s.

Either way, totes hosed up yo. I'm seeing the same hell in manufacturing right now and want no part of it. Throwing your life for a company is not worth living.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
I work with a guy who's of the opinion that being on call 24/7 unpaid is just part of life if you want to succeed and its becoming kinda unbearable at times. It's not even like he was told to be on call he's doing it to himself.

It's starting to make the rest of us look bad because we don't want to take out work home with us all the time.

He is part of the problem.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
Fwiw, I actually doubled my annual income from overtime when I was working in the UK.

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN
Sounds like you need a hobby.

ductonius
Apr 9, 2007
I heard there's a cream for that...

Helsing posted:

Sounds like you need a hobby.

One that doesn't involve masturbating furiously to bankruptcy filings.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

I had a friend like that. He'd constantly pull every extra shift, over piece of overtime he possibly could while being 100% loyal to the company. He was constantly passed up for promotion because they wanted a little work horse slave where he was. His hard work was never rewarded but it was a matter of WORK ETHICS to work as hard as he could and do every little favour his managers asked because hard work is eventually rewarded. He was also rabidly anti-union and anti-minimum wage. He also hated labour laws because "what if I want to work a 48h shift??". He was constantly upset that stupid government meddling was stopping him for working too many hours in a row.

He finally got a union job, but he saw the union as a tool to make more money by gaming the system. He pulled the same poo poo there but made ridiculous money because of all the union rules on overtime. Eventually his employer had to change some of their policies just to stop him from working quite so much, he was making about 3-4x as much as everyone else. 18 hour shifts on christmas day go go go go work!! He'd also complain about how basically everyone could make good money like him but 99% of people are lazy with no work ethic. Got pretty upset with both his employer and the union sort of teamed up to stop him from working him self to death.

He seemed to love it though. He'd always be so proud that he figured out how to "game the system" by just giving his entire life away to his work. The only reason other people weren't doing what he was doing was because they were lazy, or didn't do the math and figure out the system like he did. The idea that people wanted to do anything other than maximize income in life was not comprehended. And imagine, imagine how much money he'd make if he could opt out of the health care system or school taxes or labour regulations... drat government holding back people who only want to work for a living.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

That's pretty sad, I know some people's jobs become their personality, but it doesn't even sound like he has a "respectable" job that would warrant that.

Super GAP clothes folder?

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
I know lots of people who would do things like that. They'd work their rear end off, make a bunch of money and bank a lot of overtime, and then spend two or three months loving around and travelling wherever they like with their banked overtime and vacation time. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, as such. It's a personal choice, really, especially if you don't have a family.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012



Edit: You can tell the artist didn't finish the book haha

Snuffman
May 21, 2004

I've never really looked into it until now, but Hootsuite is just an app that lets you read and update multiple social feeds? This is a multi-million dollar "world changing disruptive app" that's at the supposed forefront of Vancouver's tech scene?

I think I'm getting old. I don't get it. :corsair:

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum

Snuffman posted:

I've never really looked into it until now, but Hootsuite is just an app that lets you read and update multiple social feeds? This is a multi-million dollar "world changing disruptive app" that's at the supposed forefront of Vancouver's tech scene?

I think I'm getting old. I don't get it. :corsair:

Yes. It's a CRON job valued at $1 Billion USD, with over $250m in investor cash.

But not just Vancouvers tech scene, Hootsuite is the biggest startup success in the entire country since the late 1990's. :smithicide:

sat on my keys!
Oct 2, 2014

My mom works for the government and would regularly put in days like 7am - 10pm, then be on her phone answering emails until she went to bed. It's not like she got mad vacation time, either. Last time I was home for the holidays she spent most of the time at work. I remember telling her once that you don't get performance bonuses in the federal government.

RBC
Nov 23, 2007

IM STILL SPENDING MONEY FROM 1888
actually you do http://ipolitics.ca/2015/09/17/deputy-ministers-performance-pay-bonuses-up-140-per-cent-under-harper/

blah_blah
Apr 15, 2006

Rime posted:

Yes. It's a CRON job valued at $1 Billion USD, with over $250m in investor cash.

But not just Vancouvers tech scene, Hootsuite is the biggest startup success in the entire country since the late 1990's. :smithicide:

Shopify has a market cap of 2.4B currently. Hootsuite's valuation has been going up very, very slowly over the last few years, and when that happens it usually means that later investors are getting better and better terms w.r.t repayment/liquidation/etc.

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005

Rime posted:

But not just Vancouvers tech scene, Hootsuite is the biggest startup success in the entire country since the late 1990's. :smithicide:

I'd argue Blackberry was more successful, if only for a few years.


Snuffman posted:

I've never really looked into it until now, but Hootsuite is just an app that lets you read and update multiple social feeds? This is a multi-million dollar "world changing disruptive app" that's at the supposed forefront of Vancouver's tech scene?

I think I'm getting old. I don't get it. :corsair:
You've obviously never run multiple businesses, all of which have tons of different social accounts to update to.

I think Hootsuite is as stupid a long-term company as everyone else, but they do legitimately make life a lot easier for a lot of businesses, including mine right now.

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etalian
Mar 20, 2006

HookShot posted:

I'd argue Blackberry was more successful, if only for a few years.

Canadian companies seem cursed, companies like Bombardier and Blackberry managed to release some good products yet sort of failed at competing the market over longer periods of time.

etalian fucked around with this message at 01:49 on Nov 9, 2015

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