Fallout 4: Power Armored Garbage Farmers

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Firstborn: Oct 14, 2012; i'm the heckin best
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My laptop is nearly as strong as most modern calculators so I don't think I can play this game. I am sad at this.

# ? Nov 8, 2015 19:47

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# ? May 13, 2024 14:18

Bholder: Feb 26, 2013

Eonwe posted:

then dont VPN in, lol

nobody is saying they will literally die if they can't play it

but if they want to VPN in and play a game early why do you care so much about that lmao

It's way too much hassle just for being impatient.

# ? Nov 8, 2015 19:48

TorakFade: Oct 3, 2006; I strongly disapprove

Kiggles posted:

I'm actually rather impressed with how elegant the system seems.

I mean, there is nothing really stopping you from grinding out 10 attributes in all SPECIAL. Nothing but 43 levels. 43 levels of nearly the exact same performance you had at level 1. SPECIAL seem primarily about gating perks. Perks are the real deal. The trick, is the system enables you to make immediate and significant strides toward your intended playstyle. You're not waiting until level 20 or 30 for a 'class defining' perk. You're getting a slice of it right out the door, and they're still substantial slices. +20% damage is no joke. At level 2 you will legitimately be proficient at something. By level 10, you will probably have the base tier of all class vital perks, and effectively be playing exactly the way you want to ultimately be playing, and continue doing just that for the next 30 levels. By the time you hit level 43, sure, you have exactly the same SPECIAL, but you will actually be ultimate sneak, or gunslinger, or melee bruiser. That guy with 10 SPECIAL across the board? Maybe he doubled his HP, but you also did that, and then some.

So SPECIAL are class defining. You pick your spread, and while they can be corrected, or even maxed, the fact you're looking at a double XP+ (minimum) investment to actually get any new perks is balancing. Think about it. Make a character with 1 str. Decide that character wasn't maximum effective power armor. That's 9 levels of very little benefit (carry weight is actually pretty rad). THEN you can start gaining XP toward FINALLY investing in Pain Train. On the other hand, the system has the flexibility to facilitate an already strong character becoming even stronger without such a task being so tedious.

Now, it could all fall apart in practice. If XP/level gain is super fast or super slow, or has a weird curve, but conceptually I am really liking it... on paper.

this reminds me once again that I need a proper character builder when I can actually insert perks and stuff, that nukahub thing is a good reference but I can't actually PLAN my build there, and the other build planner was a piece of crap that wouldn't display right on my computer :argh:

# ? Nov 8, 2015 19:48

cheesetriangles: Jan 5, 2011

Nz is best known for insane chocolate milk.

# ? Nov 8, 2015 19:49

Frankston: Jul 27, 2010

I'm loving lazy so I'll wait the extra day than go through all that VPN poo poo

# ? Nov 8, 2015 19:49

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

It's incredibly trivial to VPN a game, and in no way a hassle.

Granted I don't care enough about a few hours, but I've done it when it's something that releases on a Tuesday in America and on Friday here in Bongland.

# ? Nov 8, 2015 19:49

Son of Rodney: Feb 22, 2006; ohmygodohmygodohmygod

I for one am legit exited for this release

are there any streams still going on?

# ? Nov 8, 2015 19:50

eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

Bholder posted:

It's way too much hassle just for being impatient.

# ? Nov 8, 2015 19:50

Lakbay: Dec 14, 2006; My eye...MY EYE!!!

TorakFade posted:

this reminds me once again that I need a proper character builder when I can actually insert perks and stuff, that nukahub thing is a good reference but I can't actually PLAN my build there, and the other build planner was a piece of crap that wouldn't display right on my computer

Hello again fellow minmaxer, I just learned that if you visit your house after the tutorial, there's a book that will give you a free SPECIAL level up.

# ? Nov 8, 2015 19:50

Roobanguy: May 31, 2011

Bholder posted:

It's way too much hassle just for being impatient.

oh boy clicking on 2 buttons sure is a hassle....

# ? Nov 8, 2015 19:50

Infinity Gaia: Feb 27, 2011; a storm is coming...

Bholder posted:

It's way too much hassle just for being impatient.

It's really not a particularly big hassle. I already have the VPN handy from previous games anyways. I'd rather have a slight hassle and play on Monday than have no hassle and play on Tuesday.

# ? Nov 8, 2015 19:50

Roobanguy: May 31, 2011

im pretty short on time this week for playing videogames so being able to play it early is cool.

# ? Nov 8, 2015 19:51

The Chad Jihad: Feb 24, 2007

I'm scared to VPN and I resent the people who do

# ? Nov 8, 2015 19:51

Bardeh: Dec 2, 2004; Fun Shoe

Bholder posted:

It's way too much hassle just for being impatient.

Closing steam, opening a VPN program, and then reopening steam is 'way too much hassle?' It's like clicking three buttons

# ? Nov 8, 2015 19:51

TASTE THE PAIN!!: May 18, 2004

VPN is really simple stop being a bitch

# ? Nov 8, 2015 19:52

ChibiSoma: Apr 13, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

Anyone happen to know if the island in the southeast part of the map has a settlement spot on it? Because if so, I'm grabbing Ghoulbeard or whatever his name is and taking over the island to make a new :pirate:

nation.

# ? Nov 8, 2015 19:52

Lowtechs: Jan 12, 2001; Grimey Drawer

Protons posted:

oh my god a day

Dude you don't understand I need access early to start my deathclaw prostitute mod started. I already decided on the size and shape of the boobs I am going to mod on them.

# ? Nov 8, 2015 19:53

Bardeh: Dec 2, 2004; Fun Shoe

Son of Rodney posted:

I for one am legit exited for this release

are there any streams still going on?

I've been keeping an eye on Youtube Gaming and there are steams starting up constantly, but they're getting shut down within minutes. It's weird that they seem to be going so hard on it right now, some kid streamed for almost 10 hours straight earlier

# ? Nov 8, 2015 19:53

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Yo how much drive space this game take up, anyway?

# ? Nov 8, 2015 19:55

Protons: Sep 15, 2012

Mister Adequate posted:

Yo how much drive space this game take up, anyway?

~30GB

# ? Nov 8, 2015 19:56

Fat_Cow: Dec 12, 2009; Every time I yank a jawbone from a skull and ram it into an eyesocket, I know I'm building a better future.

So when does this unlock on PC, will there be any fuckery to be able to unlock it early?

# ? Nov 8, 2015 19:57

Frankston: Jul 27, 2010

Fat_Cow posted:

So when does this unlock on PC, will there be any fuckery to be able to unlock it early?

No, none at all.

# ? Nov 8, 2015 19:58

DLC Inc: Jun 1, 2011

Neo_Crimson posted:

lol

lol max landis continuing his 2015 campaign of bein a babyback bitch

# ? Nov 8, 2015 19:59

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Protons posted:

~30GB

Cool, thanks.

# ? Nov 8, 2015 20:01

coyo7e: Aug 23, 2007; by zen death robot

ethanol posted:

duct taped iPhone pip boys are my favorite pip boys

I love the idea of a forearm-mounted smart device however I do not even wear watches anymore because I keep scratching them on server racks or getting them caught on something while I'm working under the sink. I have trouble seeing how having my entire outer forearm be an expensive and fragile electronic device is very practical (also the weight would be obnoxious until you got used to it).

# ? Nov 8, 2015 20:06

Bardeh: Dec 2, 2004; Fun Shoe

hahaha that Neogaf thread that was linked earlier about the PS4 framerate is good reading

Bardeh fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Nov 8, 2015

# ? Nov 8, 2015 20:06

DLC Inc: Jun 1, 2011

Bardeh posted:

hahaha that Neogaf thread that was linked earlier about the PS4 framerate is good reading

hahaha jesus christ

# ? Nov 8, 2015 20:09

Fake James: Aug 18, 2005; Y'all got any more of that plastic?; Buglord

So does that boston map come with the game, or was it from a magazine / strat guide?

# ? Nov 8, 2015 20:10

Looke: Aug 2, 2013

money has been taken out of my account, just please start the auto download now!!!

# ? Nov 8, 2015 20:13

marshmallow creep: Dec 10, 2008; I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

TorakFade posted:

this reminds me once again that I need a proper character builder when I can actually insert perks and stuff, that nukahub thing is a good reference but I can't actually PLAN my build there, and the other build planner was a piece of crap that wouldn't display right on my computer

http://www.rpg-gaming.com/fo4.html

edit: oh wait, this is probably the other builder you mentioned. It works fine for me, but it can be hard to notice that the scroll bar is on the left when looking at the perk table--I certainly found it hard to work with on the laptop I was using.

marshmallow creep fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Nov 8, 2015

# ? Nov 8, 2015 20:14

sector_corrector: Jan 18, 2012; by Nyc_Tattoo

The fun prescriptivists turn on each other, seeing who can be the bigger idiot rear end in a top hat: eonwe or Bholder.

# ? Nov 8, 2015 20:14

Bardeh: Dec 2, 2004; Fun Shoe

# ? Nov 8, 2015 20:14

Four Score: Feb 27, 2014; by zen death robot; Lipstick Apathy

CoronaryBypass posted:

I'm thinking of using this for my John Cena Build. http://www.nukahub.com/tools/special?s=8&p=1&e=6&c=6&i=1&a=4&l=2. With bobble heads I will be the ultimate pain train party boy who you can't see.

Get the dumb Luck perk that plagues you with the KA-CHING sound except replace the sound file with BA BA BA BAAAAA, BA BA BA BAAAAA

# ? Nov 8, 2015 20:17

MattD1zzl3: Oct 26, 2007; Can't post for 4 years!

If you look past the blow-up-doll you can see a photorealistic desk. (Behind a bunch of blur)

# ? Nov 8, 2015 20:18

DLC Inc: Jun 1, 2011

didnt realize tilda swinton was in the game

# ? Nov 8, 2015 20:18

Legs Benedict: Jul 14, 2002; You can either follow me to our bedroom or bend over that control throne because I haven't been this turned on in FOREVER!

is there just a table of all the perks in the game that I can look at while you nerds argue about VPNs and poo poo

# ? Nov 8, 2015 20:19

Daztek: Jun 2, 2006

Legs Benedict posted:

is there just a table of all the perks in the game that I can look at while you nerds argue about VPNs and poo poo

There sure is

http://orcz.com/Fallout_4:_Perk_Chart

# ? Nov 8, 2015 20:21

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

ChibiSoma posted:

Anyone happen to know if the island in the southeast part of the map has a settlement spot on it? Because if so, I'm grabbing Ghoulbeard or whatever his name is and taking over the island to make a new nation.

This is important

# ? Nov 8, 2015 20:21