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My fourth chest clear with The Lost in two days! Too bad I'm trying to get to Mega Satan, and even a run where I went wild on the shop with Restock + Chaos + Steam Sale looking for Dad's Key (because Angel rooms refuse to spawn for me) couldn't get me there.
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Nov 8, 2015 21:09
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Ok fought Ultra Greed again and yeah the heart coins turn into healing in less than two seconds. Also, he used the heart coins attack three times in a row at the very beginning of the fight. How am I even supposed to beat that.
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Nov 8, 2015 21:35
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Just finished the hard mode marks with Issac. Now to do the same with every other character. Man I kinda went on hard mode for my hush clears with everyone the first time around. Not a fan of how much of a pain getting to Mega Satan is. Wish there was some way to permanently unlock him, but I guess that would be against the spirit of his design of discouraging devil deals.
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Nov 8, 2015 21:38
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Are all the bosses more bullet-spongey or is it just some psychosomatic thing? Fighting Gurdy before and it took forever even though I'd picked up a few DMG up items including a Pentagram.
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Nov 8, 2015 21:45
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Oxyclean posted:Just finished the hard mode marks with Issac. Now to do the same with every other character. Man I kinda went on hard mode for my hush clears with everyone the first time around. You could probably mod every character to start with both key pieces if you wanted to.
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Nov 8, 2015 22:06
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Lasher posted:Are all the bosses more bullet-spongey or is it just some psychosomatic thing? Fighting Gurdy before and it took forever even though I'd picked up a few DMG up items including a Pentagram. Outside of hush/ultra greed they feel the same, but it feels like there's a lot less damage ups in afterbirth, outside of stuff like holy shot and toxic shock.
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Nov 8, 2015 22:20
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NO LISTEN TO ME posted:You could probably mod every character to start with both key pieces if you wanted to. I might do that if it comes right down to it, but I already cheated the poo poo out of the Lost because I'd rather not deal with that frustration. I figured doing just about everything else legit should make up for that. Speaking of that, I have the full note marks for the Lost, but it didn't seem to unlock a co-op baby like it's supposed to.
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Nov 8, 2015 22:29
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Just finished a run with no devil deals, no red heart damage at all, and plenty of donations and still got only one angel room.  It's really kind of dumb to make it so each character needs to beat Megasatan and not have a reliable way to get him.
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Nov 8, 2015 22:33
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Jibo posted:Just finished a run with no devil deals, no red heart damage at all, and plenty of donations and still got only one angel room. I've gotten a MegaSatan fight more reliably by getting Dad's Key than by getting two angel rooms for the key pieces.
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Nov 8, 2015 22:38
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Slime posted:I've gotten a MegaSatan fight more reliably by getting Dad's Key than by getting two angel rooms for the key pieces. There's also a new card that acts like Dad's Key.
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Nov 8, 2015 22:40
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Jibo posted:Just finished a run with no devil deals, no red heart damage at all, and plenty of donations and still got only one angel room. Yeah this has been a massive pain in the rear end. I've been doing runs as Cain over and over just because I couldn't get enough Angel Rooms to make the key, or Dad's Key. It would be great if Dad's Key or the entire key was a pickup during The Chest/Dark Room now that Mega Satan is a mark.
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Nov 8, 2015 22:41
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TopHatGenius posted:Yeah this has been a massive pain in the rear end. I've been doing runs as Cain over and over just because I couldn't get enough Angel Rooms to make the key, or Dad's Key. It would be great if Dad's Key or the entire key was a pickup during The Chest/Dark Room now that Mega Satan is a mark. Cain? How does this help angel room runs?
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Nov 8, 2015 22:45
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How can I increase my chances of angel rooms so I can fight Mega Satan? They haven't been showing up for me at all
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Nov 8, 2015 22:46
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Augus posted:How can I increase my chances of angel rooms so I can fight Mega Satan? They haven't been showing up for me at all http://platinumgod.co.uk/angel-room
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Nov 8, 2015 22:46
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Tip: don't pick up mom's knife followed by technology with Lilith. Mom's knife is cool, as it replaces the helper's tears with cute tiny knives, and together with her spacebar item that's very powerful. But if you then pick up Technology, you keep the knives, but lose the ability to shoot with them. You don't get lasers either, so the only way to damage enemies is to get your helper(s) close to them.
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Nov 8, 2015 22:47
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Kawalimus posted:Completed everyone on Greed mode now except Lost...which is going to require a chaos card at this point for me. I beat the lost on my first try by restarting until I got a D12 in the shop. Then only pick up fifteen coins, reroll the rest into chests and hopefully more money which you can use to reroll the shop until you see a 48 hour energy charge item. After thats its just a matter of using the charge, finding 5 cents, rerolling the rest until you start getting absurd numbers of items. Takes some time, and be careful about bombs exploding out of chests. But if you do it long enough, you'll be plenty strong to steamroll the rest of the levels.
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Nov 8, 2015 22:50
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Augus posted:How can I increase my chances of angel rooms so I can fight Mega Satan? They haven't been showing up for me at all That, and not mentioned on that page is that satisfying a coin beggar (-> he teleports away and leaves an item) will give you a small bonus, and satisfying a devil beggar will lower your chanes.
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Nov 8, 2015 22:57
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So I don't think Tech X and Mom's Knife synergize as expected on Lilith. with every press of a button, my familiar now fires mom's knife at medium distance along with an instant-charge laser ring.
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Nov 8, 2015 23:28
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FateFree posted:I beat the lost on my first try by restarting until I got a D12 in the shop. Then only pick up fifteen coins, reroll the rest into chests and hopefully more money which you can use to reroll the shop until you see a 48 hour energy charge item. After thats its just a matter of using the charge, finding 5 cents, rerolling the rest until you start getting absurd numbers of items. Takes some time, and be careful about bombs exploding out of chests. But if you do it long enough, you'll be plenty strong to steamroll the rest of the levels. I never use D-items except the D6 so maybe I'll have to look into this. Thanks for the advice.
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Nov 9, 2015 00:18
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did the tech 2 laser get weakened?
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Nov 9, 2015 00:23
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I just watched some video of the original BoI for the first time in ages, and holy poo poo does this game look baaaaaad. Looking back it's incredible that there were people angry about the visual change between that and rebirth. e: look how bad the widow looks lmao LazyMaybe fucked around with this message at 02:17 on Nov 9, 2015 |
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Nov 9, 2015 02:15
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There's a message in my cereal! It says "ooooooooooo"
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Nov 9, 2015 02:16
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I didn't mind the artstyle of the original but man did it run poorly. The flawless framerate in Rebirth is the best part about the remake. So it's my fault for taking the risk but I rerolled my items in a Cathedral Dice Room and got Montro's Lung+Soy Milk.  I also have a bouncing homing laser that does pathetic damage and little Gurdy which is gonna have to be my main source of damage. Isaac is gonna be a long fight. EDIT: Isaac wrecked me. RatHat fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Nov 9, 2015 |
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Nov 9, 2015 02:17
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Spergminer posted:Gnawed leaf, cube of meat and daddy longlegs/lil haunt. Enter boss room, and go watch tv for 15 minutes. I feel like this might not even work with Ultra Greed with how much he repositions + the self-heal.
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Nov 9, 2015 03:09
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IronicDongz posted:I just watched some video of the original BoI for the first time in ages, and holy poo poo does this game look baaaaaad. I forgot how bullshit the Isaac fight used to be. No way I could beat him with the Lost back then.
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Nov 9, 2015 03:16
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Isnt ??? basically old Isaac?
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Nov 9, 2015 03:27
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I miss the days when those big spiders only took 3 shots to kill.
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Nov 9, 2015 03:30
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RatHat posted:Isnt ??? basically old Isaac? I don't think ???'s tears scale with yours. Old Isaac shot at the same speed you did, whenever you were shooting.
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Nov 9, 2015 03:33
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Yeah, the way the old fights were set up, you ALWAYS wanted a high damage, low fire rate build. Having the opposite would make those fights nigh impossible unless you had a lot of health or defense. I remember when Soy Milk was revealed on the rebirth update blog everyone was like "oh god imagine fighting isaac with that  "
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Nov 9, 2015 03:42
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Finished up Brains! without too much trouble. Almost lost it at the end to a double Adversary room, as I still have trouble dodging their drat brimstone. Also lost loving 11 soul hearts by picking up a dead cat as I forgot it removed all but one from Blue Baby. The challenge overall was not especially tough (for me) but was just tedious as gently caress. Sitting around waiting for stupid brains to reload. Had some nice synergies from BFF and Mr. Mega, and picked up a nice Holy Mantle and Circle of Protection. Sadly a wasted Sacred Heart spawn too.
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Nov 9, 2015 03:48
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SUPER MEGA GREED is so boring. I hope they eventually make the fight more dynamic, and less tanky. I literally spent like 10 minutes soymilk coin shooting him and his stupid coins. Its not hard and its not fun.
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Nov 9, 2015 04:02
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I almost managed to beat Speed! by having a combination of Ipecac and The Shovel, still didn't have enough survivability to finish the heart though  I think this might be the point where I just use CheatEngine for the sake of having the unlocks.Also got a kind of strange bug when I was doings the Brains challenge where the Deck of Cards would give me a pill when using it, however if I held CTRL to drop the item it would make me drop cards or runes instead, pretty great bug though! Also Bag Head might be one of the best game breaking items added, just get it and combine it with Fossilized Poop / Lucky Rock and you'll have an infinite source of pickups.
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Nov 9, 2015 04:10
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JoshVanValkenburg posted:SUPER MEGA GREED is so boring. I hope they eventually make the fight more dynamic, and less tanky. I literally spent like 10 minutes soymilk coin shooting him and his stupid coins. Its not hard and its not fun. His coins are supposed to become less tanky in one of the upcoming patches, at least. Apparently their current health is due to "Everything is Terrible 2" accidentally being triggered before it's supposed to, plus some over tuning.
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Nov 9, 2015 04:11
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I like both of the new bosses or rather, they would be really cool if they had less health. mechanically I find them interesting but it just takes too long to take them out. hush especially
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Nov 9, 2015 04:13
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Yeah I can see why they scale the health with Ultra Greed but he needs to have about half of what he has now. I go through all his attack patterns like 20 times when I fight him and that shouldn't happen I feel like. Or maybe make it a fight with several stages similar to Mega Satan. I think my favorite new item is Spider Mod. I just think it's such a cool idea.
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Nov 9, 2015 04:17
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Kawalimus posted:Yeah I can see why they scale the health with Ultra Greed but he needs to have about half of what he has now. I go through all his attack patterns like 20 times when I fight him and that shouldn't happen I feel like. I guess that's what I meant by dynamic. If you make it there you just gotta hang out and shoot for an hour. Mega Satan is hella dope, Mega Greed is hella nope.
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Nov 9, 2015 04:21
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mega satan is a chump and was even easier than the old boss rush
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Nov 9, 2015 04:22
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He really doesn't seem long at all though. All the damage scaling does is prevent you from blowing him away instantly, I don't think his HP total is unreasonable otherwise.
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Nov 9, 2015 04:35
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The problem is that due to how aggressive his damage scaling is you can end up with a wide degree of runs that "feel the same" fighting him, even when their actual power has a huge variance. It's also rather jarring to go from clearing out the entire previous floor instantly to shooting at Ultra Greed for several minutes.
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