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GalacticAcid posted:Turns out Ben was lying. He didn't stab his friend with a knife ~ he stabbed him with a spear. ben carson puts his hands on his temples and aquaman thought rings come out of his forehead. two thousand years ago, jesus receives a message that changes history. the romans try to nail him to the cross. Nice Try idiots. jesus has belt buckles on his hands. the nails are deflected. they come at him with spears. guess again. that's right, buckles
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Nonsense posted:Jeb Bush would be perceived very poorly educated if he ran in Teddy's era. B-b-b-b--but Jeb! It connotes excitement!
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GalacticAcid posted:Turns out Ben was lying. He didn't stab his friend with a knife ~ he stabbed him with a spear. tomorrow's headlines : Ben Carson single-handedly defeats tank company
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Can we get an excitement check for JEB!?
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still fairly excited
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A Neurotic Jew posted:still fairly excited Much appreciated!!! <== Adding some extra excitement!
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SpRahl posted:Wait does Killing Lincoln suggest that Edwin Stanton was the real mastermind of the assassination? It pretty much pushes any conspiracy theory besides the Confederacy was behind the Surrat plot. I have had several people who have read the book that have told me that they think Stanton did it now (because he was not targeted, because he went after the surviving members of the plot so quickly and harshly, etc.). Heck, it even pushes the idea that Booth did this because he was a gilted lover who lost his "true love" to Robert Lincoln.
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Really excited by JEB!!!
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So, up to and including the campaign of William McKinley (and revived by Harding in 1920), you saw the "front porch campaign," where the candidate would pretend to be above "running" for president and would leave that to surrogates while preferring to sit on his front porch and answer press questions etc. This was, of course, a huge facade/PR move because it was considered uncouth to actually campaign for President. Jeb! Bush was born to run that sort of late-19th century campaign.
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Cabinet posted:Tomorrow's headlines: Presidential frontrunner Ben Carson claims to have been on SNL. The base backs his claim to counter liebral media!
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GalacticAcid posted:Teddy was a vicious nationalist who thirsted for eternal war of conquest. His reactionary conceptions of empire coupled with a more vigorous national welfare model put him on par with contemporary conservative leaders like Bismarck. these are all good things though???
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Michael Corleone posted:Really excited by JEB!!! 
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Just Excitement Bros !
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Here is the thing I am really having a problem with, over Ben Carson's distinguished academic and professional career no one was successfully able to bring up the point that the guy was a loving nutbag narcissist and clip his wings? I mean surely plenty of people realized before a few months ago that the guy is loving insane before you get to the narcissism and pathological lying boring on legit sociopathy.
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Cabinet posted:Just actually it stands for "john ellis bush"
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this debate is similar to the one about whether the republicans are the party of lincoln. no label can retain unchanged a specific set of implications united through a specific set of interrelations across generations, and the fact that we tend to impose these things in reverse chronology should help highlight how self-serving and antihistorical the effort is pulling the term progressive out of history's rear end, applying it to modern liberal/leftist concerns, then retroactively applying those concerns to the original progressives serves a purpose and helps us feel good about ourselves and our ideas. frederick douglass republicans and other people who skim through history and snatch labels and quotes to be deployed as strategic weapons without regard to context are simply applying the same process they tend to do it in a more childish way, with practically no reflection on anything, so it's easy to make fun of. but it's a very similar process progressivism contained conservationists like john muir who were basically tree huggers but it also had conservationists like gifford pinchot who helped turn yosemite national park's second raddest valley into a municipal reservoir for san francisco's water supply (hetch hetchy). conservationism was about preserving natural resources for future generations but it was also about beneficially using those resources for the greatest number over the greatest period of time. so the national parks weren't just for deer to run around in, they were also massive water supply projects, and once you'd used those forests to purify the water why would you just let it wander off into the sea? our concerns and priorities and perceptions and practically every other drat noun you can think of have changed since then and thus so has our use both of the label 'conservationist' and our historiography of the original conservationists' actions progressivism had a social darwinist heritage too, sterilization and whatnot, it's easy to find conservative web sites that will tell you all about it. the thing that brings the types of conservationists and the sterilizers and the social reformers together was a belief in the power of the central government to shape society. the battles progressives fought then that happen to coincide with the battles non-republicans fight now, and the fact that both groups generally want to use federal power and state regulation as means to their ends, don't make teddy roosevelt some kind of elizabeth warren in grayscale. the rhetoric that tries to shape our discourse so that we think about their commonalities rather than their differences is what's interesting here - and it's also interesting that the republicans who draw comparisons to lincoln or douglass are basically doing the same thing but in crayon and with adorable kindergarten misspellings neways ~fartz~ edit: also look at woodrow wilson's loving teeth  imagine that running for president nowadays
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Nice, but my three !'s were: two to show I was twice as excited as all of you, and the other to show just how excited I really am as a person. Are you even excited?!
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Three Olives posted:Here is the thing I am really having a problem with, over Ben Carson's distinguished academic and professional career no one was successfully able to bring up the point that the guy was a loving nutbag narcissist and clip his wings? alot of brain surgeons are hosed up sociopaths who get a rush from the thrill of cutting someones brain open under pressure. As long as you can do the job it really doesn't matter to the people certifying you.
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Three Olives posted:Here is the thing I am really having a problem with, over Ben Carson's distinguished academic and professional career no one was successfully able to bring up the point that the guy was a loving nutbag narcissist and clip his wings? Trump fights the establishment, Carson bucks the media with their gotcha questions which were used to insult the intelligence of average people like Carson, and Palin before him. Anything that pisses off liberals, anything that doesn't jive with liberals sensibilities of what is fair or right, anything that will absolutely make liberals look like they are the real racists. This election all they have is hubris.
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Three Olives posted:Here is the thing I am really having a problem with, over Ben Carson's distinguished academic and professional career no one was successfully able to bring up the point that the guy was a loving nutbag narcissist and clip his wings? My impression is that Carson's weird beliefs and right wing political philosophy basically was something he didn't discuss during his career in academic medicine, there's no reason it would HAVE to come up, it's not really related to the medicine. Then he got famous after that prayer breakfast speech and really let his freak flag fly. I seem to remember reading something where a Johns Hopkins colleague of his said something to this effect but I'm not certain of it.
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as much as conservatives wish they did, academics don't actually purge each other based on their private opinions about poo poo that has nothing to do with their jobs although academia is also viciously political and internecine warfare is common so personal attacks do play a role and i'm sure at some point someone has used a conservative rival's views on something random as a weapon against them so i guess what im saying is, you could cherrypick methods academics have used to purge each other to construct whatever narrative you want but the underlying reason is because they're power-hungry jackasses oystertoadfish fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Nov 9, 2015 |
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Three Olives posted:Here is the thing I am really having a problem with, over Ben Carson's distinguished academic and professional career no one was successfully able to bring up the point that the guy was a loving nutbag narcissist and clip his wings? The GOP is desperate, and no one can really keep up the chirade of supply-side tax cuts without being actually stupid or outright lying. Mark my words, Rubio won't hold up to scrutiny either. the entire conservative worldview is on trial and none of them realize that they've lost.
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LolWilson. He'd never win the modern Democratic party nomination, given he was a huge racist. It's funny how political parties change over time.
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Are 'gotcha' questions anything more than "in 2007 you said something, do you still feel that way?"
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OK, since we are talking hypothetical's, just how bad would JFK beat everyone if he were running this cycle? Clean sweep of the primary and then what?
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also didnt andrew jackson stab someone? i think he actually shot them ben carson is a jacksonian democrat
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Three Olives posted:Here is the thing I am really having a problem with, over Ben Carson's distinguished academic and professional career no one was successfully able to bring up the point that the guy was a loving nutbag narcissist and clip his wings? You clearly haven't hung around enough academics and doctors. It's only relatively recently that anybody put them under any serious scrutiny as far as interpersonal relations are concerned.
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Triglav posted:Are 'gotcha' questions anything more than "in 2007 you said something, do you still feel that way?" No. Most gotcha questions are literally just "what about [thing you said]?" or "how do you feel about ____?"
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Michael Corleone posted:OK, since we are talking hypothetical's, just how bad would JFK beat everyone if he were running this cycle? Clean sweep of the primary and then what? honestly he barely beat nixon and his historical canonization is to a great degree based on getting killed at a convenient time
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"The math in your insane tax plan doesnt add up" is my favorite gotcha
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Michael Corleone posted:OK, since we are talking hypothetical's, just how bad would JFK beat everyone if he were running this cycle? Clean sweep of the primary and then what? JFK would be the greatest GOP front runner of our time.
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Lotka Volterra posted:No. Most gotcha questions are literally just "what about [thing you said]?" or "how do you feel about ____?" I think you mean "what newspapers do you read?"
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Triglav posted:Are 'gotcha' questions anything more than "in 2007 you said something, do you still feel that way?" Marco Rubio claimed that a question he was asked in the last debate was a "gotcha" question. This was the question: quote:HARWOOD: Senator Rubio, 30 seconds to you. Sort of makes you think.
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oystertoadfish posted:as much as conservatives wish they did, academics don't actually purge each other based on their private opinions about poo poo that has nothing to do with their jobs Carson was a surgeon, not an academic.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:You clearly haven't hung around enough academics and doctors. It's only relatively recently that anybody put them under any serious scrutiny as far as interpersonal relations are concerned. I've noticed the trend in academia for dealing with delusional assholes is "Hey, that guy's a real prick you should avoid him at all costs" as opposed to anything official. It can be about as damaging as any official sanction, anyway, since you lose a lot of potential collaborators and funding Jumpingmanjim posted:I think you mean "what newspapers do you read?" That, too Aves Maria! fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Nov 9, 2015 |
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AfroLine posted:JFK would be the greatest GOP front runner of our time. Bill O'Reilly account spotted.
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Sounds like the Ted Cruz Super PAC Empire is holding off for one of ol' Baldrick's cunning plans.quote:Washington (CNN)Ted Cruz enjoys millions of dollars in super PAC money but he may have to wait until after the first round of primaries before he can reap the benefits of that unlimited cash. Read on. It's a complete shitshow.
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This whole "are they co-ordinating or are they not?" thing is ridiculous and the Supreme Court should be ashamed.
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People who have the discretionary income to waste millions on a Ted Cruz campaign are, ironically, the strongest argument we have for punitively progressive taxation.
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So all these Super PACs, what's to stop the people running them from using the money for new BMWs and house renovations? Seems like I should start a Super PAC and then I could retire.
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