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Neddy Seagoon posted:Ah, ordinance talk! Thanks for the advice on the tandem charge. I'd hoped I could get it working, but them's the breaks I guess.  Maybe somebody will come up with shaped charge warheads that's more powerful but only explodes in a cone, but until then I guess I'll try different configurations and also try the kinetic penetrators.Hmm, now I have to expirement with things like capped AP vs regular ones. Oh well, at least blowing poo poo up is fun! 
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I've seen a guided missile example on the workshop, and a variant that packs a bunch of gyros in the nose so they scatter after impact. I will dig up the link when I get to a computer. I don't know how effective they are, those missiles.
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Sorus posted:I've seen a guided missile example on the workshop, and a variant that packs a bunch of gyros in the nose so they scatter after impact. I will dig up the link when I get to a computer. I honestly wouldn't put much stock in the gyro trick. It's a clever one, but it's something that's probably going to get patched out eventually.
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Nov 8, 2015 15:28
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I have an idea actually for a semi tandem-charge system, but I'll have to work out the kinks. But it's functionally two separate torpedoes attached together and designed to break apart and separate. They'll hit at different times but function as a tandem charge system. I'll have to experiment and play around with different systems though.
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One thing you could try with mods is a multi-stage missile using a solid core of large block warheads, a rear propulsion section and a small block cage made from heavy armour and blast door "rods". Use this mod https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=516770964&searchtext=small+to+large+grid+connector as it has a few glitches that are often favourable when creating warheads. The small blocks attached often phase through on collisions and only update on the following physics tick if the large blocks impact first. Something to do with forcing the game to merge small and large blocks into a single grid so they don't collide with each other. Does mean you could create the opposite with a central rod made from large blocks, punch it into a ship and have the attached small warheads detonate inside after penetration. Can also be used to help merge block small ships onto a station or large ship carrier
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Verizian posted:One thing you could try with mods is a multi-stage missile using a solid core of large block warheads, a rear propulsion section and a small block cage made from heavy armour and blast door "rods". Use this mod https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=516770964&searchtext=small+to+large+grid+connector as it has a few glitches that are often favourable when creating warheads. The small blocks attached often phase through on collisions and only update on the following physics tick if the large blocks impact first. Something to do with forcing the game to merge small and large blocks into a single grid so they don't collide with each other. Does mean you could create the opposite with a central rod made from large blocks, punch it into a ship and have the attached small warheads detonate inside after penetration. More warheads don't actually mean a bigger boom though. It's just the same blast in a wider area and small-block warheads do not do a lot to Reinforced Armor.
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No but when they can simply pass through the armour for half a second, exploding inside a block, they tend to do a lot more.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:I honestly wouldn't put much stock in the gyro trick. It's a clever one, but it's something that's probably going to get patched out eventually. You're likely right. The link I mentioned earlier: Guided Missile: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=546494746 which is used in this ship: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=542103824
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Sometimes I take a look at the official SE forums, much like the flagellants of old. Today, the devs posted something special. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJoRKVbDjj4 Planets are coming on Thursday. Time to see how many people's computers burn up trying to handle it.
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Nov 9, 2015 18:07
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The manchild in me wants to take Friday off now...
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Uncle Spriggly posted:The manchild in me wants to take Friday off now... I get friday off because we're moving to a new office! But the toddler probably won't let me play 
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ToxicFrog posted:I get friday off because we're moving to a new office! If only we could send the kids to work in the factories like the good old days. So, all ships will be effected by natural gravity right? Artificial Mass blocks won't be required?
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Darth Various posted:Sometimes I take a look at the official SE forums, much like the flagellants of old. Today, the devs posted something special. 
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Kickass! I can't get friday off...
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i hope there is some solution to gravity generators not working in natural grav., I wanted to build a space elevator and use gravity to shuttle up and down.
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A reverse gravity orbital tether would be amazing. But you'd have to make sure the spiders don't carpool up with you. Idea: Has anyone successfully modded in some sort of rail system? so you could have a proper elevator system not limited by pistons.
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I don't know how well it would work under the strain of gravity, but using a bunch of wheels to move stuff along a rail just made out of light armour blocks works fine even for relatively large loads, just gotta watch the speed on it to avoid breakages.
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Darth Various posted:Sometimes I take a look at the official SE forums, much like the flagellants of old. Today, the devs posted something special.  .So, everyone got their landing shuttles ready? McGiggins posted:A reverse gravity orbital tether would be amazing. Gravity Generators don't work past 0.5g in planetary gravity wells. lohli posted:I don't know how well it would work under the strain of gravity, but using a bunch of wheels to move stuff along a rail just made out of light armour blocks works fine even for relatively large loads, just gotta watch the speed on it to avoid breakages. Why use Light and watch it crumple when Reinforced will actually take the impact?
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Nov 10, 2015 02:23
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Just in time for fallout! This weekend is gonna be busy.
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Well poo poo, I'm gonna be busy with this on top of all the other videogame poo poo going on PLANETS 
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Neddy Seagoon posted:
 Only without the FTL jump at the end
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I've just finished my next ship that's supposed to explore planets. I wanted it to carry a rover on an elevator, and I guess I was right on time. I've got mag-lock pads in the hangar to hold the piston in place and a smaller one on the bottom of my rover to stick it to the elevator. Fun times were had with the elevator ripping out the back of my ship. These pictures slightly older and before I cleared its line of fire a bit, I found it would shoot off its own parts at close range.    My little Apollo rover.  Testing on that one fake planet map didn't go so well. 
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E: Pretty sure we've already had that conversation. For content: Planets! Can't wait to build an excavation drill! McGiggins fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Nov 10, 2015 |
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Ass_Burgerer posted:Will I have to start a new game in order to see planets? No idea, the developers have never actually said and it's something that could go either way.
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http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=551141458 This is pretty cool; its a mod that make ships blow up instead of go dark when you shoot them up. I actually kinda like that ships go dark (why should not reactive poo poo explode), but with some tweaking the mod could almost be a must have on a server as a lucky shot into reactor clumps and the like SHOULD have a chance to blow the whole thing.
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The idea of taking friday off to play with planets is really dumb. The patch to fix critical bugs won't be until late friday afternoon!  Ass_Burgerer posted:Just in time for fallout! Similarly, don't play bethesda games on week 1. Zodack posted:I want to publish it on the workshop but people seem to be allergic to mods there, which is really weird considering how easy it is to install and maintain mods in this game? It's easy to install and maintain a mod list. Subscribing to someone else's mod list just to load their ship blueprint is a hassle, and eventually you have a zillion mods so you have to unsubscribe to get rid of clutter. It's not like many people really want to use other people's creations for themselves. It's a building game, pretty much everyone is gonna build their own stuff. Personally I think a lot of heavily modded ships I see are neat, but not so much that I get anything extra from walking through them over just seeing screenshots. They're cool or inspiring for something I'll maybe make myself. So the smallest barrier -- 2 minutes to find & sub to mods I don't actually care about -- is enough to stop at just the pictures. Basically if you want to impress me so much that how did he do that? is something I must know, the answer can't be "mods".
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Hell, with everything listed on the right side of the screen when browsing a modded workshop submission, it takes literally seconds to find, read and subscribe to the mods contained within a submission. I think that relying on mods too much will poison vanilla for most people though (other than QoL mods like retracting staircases), so I too attempt to see how far I can get within vanilla limitations. I think it'll be interesting to see how vanilla and mod servers develop concurrently in terms of strategy and rate of progress from server inception.
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I mean all I use are door mods, engine mods, other aesthetic stuff. Pistons and whatnot are a flight risk on any ship so I like downloading big door mods to take their place. I put it on the workshop as a world, it has about 100 subs right now which has me pleasantly surprised.
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Zodack posted:I mean all I use are door mods, engine mods, other aesthetic stuff. Pistons and whatnot are a flight risk on any ship so I like downloading big door mods to take their place. I try to go as vanilla as possible*, but there's some things you just need like actual decent guns or the Conveyor Vents (seriously, the vanilla ones are an intrusive nuisance in any room). *Saying that even as I have about 20+ mods on my ship.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:I try to go as vanilla as possible*, but there's some things you just need like actual decent guns or the Conveyor Vents (seriously, the vanilla ones are an intrusive nuisance in any room).
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Some ships I've seen hide them behind the "vent" windows and maybe around a corner. But that takes up more space.
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McGiggins posted:For content: Planets! Can't wait to build an excavation drill! It's a shame we can't have arbitrarily long pistons because it would be very neat to be able to build boreholes. I guess conceviably you could make some kind of drilling rig which clamps onto the side of the shaft, extends the drill and a new set of clamps, then disengages the first set and retracts the rear towards the front. Some kind of drilling inchworm thing.
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We could probably do with a new thread title come Thursday. I was thinking "Space and Medieval Engineers; The planets have more bugs than the games."
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New thread title owns, I support it. Also, we would have to design such a clamping device, but I have yet to see any square drills, and we can only clamp at right angles unless you mess with lots of rotors which would have to support the weight of the whole thing, including the extra force of stopping it's drop when retracted. Might be able to do it with wheels to steady it and prevent it from twisting or rotating though, if you can be sure of the width of the hole remaining constant...
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OwlFancier posted:It's a shame we can't have arbitrarily long pistons because it would be very neat to be able to build boreholes. I've been trying to think about how to build a borehole miner or something similar, but I came across a better solution: Build a ship that is big enough to just devour an entire planet.  e; I don't know if it would be possible, but might we mod in a block hard enough to just punch into a rock and serve as a piton? That'd sidestep problems with clamps or wheels. Or build something that drills into the borehole's sides, retracts the drills, descends a couple blocks, and then inserts the piton into the gaps. e2; The other problem, it occurs, is getting a mining rig back out of a borehole. Ms Adequate fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Nov 11, 2015 |
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Mister Adequate posted:I've been trying to think about how to build a borehole miner or something similar, but I came across a better solution: Build a ship that is big enough to just devour an entire planet. No, no, dig UP!
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