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gabensraum posted:any of you used mattermost for team chat? http://www.mattermost.org if you are already using jira and confluence just go with hipchat imo, pick up stash too
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Blotto Skorzany posted:what? you don't need a bouncer or any of that poo poo. let your irc client live in a screen/tmux/whatever session in your vps, boom done having this work reliably for an entire team would be a lot of extra work
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Blotto Skorzany posted:what? you don't need a bouncer or any of that poo poo. let your irc client live in a screen/tmux/whatever session in your vps, boom done well first of all, a lot of communication happens with non/less technical people who don't want to set up screen and tmux, don't want to log into a VPS, and don't want to deal with any of that poo poo. and second, yeah, try making that work for a large team, let alone a large corp.
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use lotus sametime. it lets you use your own smilies
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i don't see what's hard about setting that up for a team but i'll take your word for it since i don't cj, but what 'setting up' does screen take you install it and then run the command. i think it already comes installed on most distros anyways
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Blotto Skorzany posted:i don't see what's hard about setting that up for a team but i'll take your word for it since i don't cj, but what 'setting up' does screen take there are a ton of hoops to jump through, including knowing how to use screen and irssi and spending the time to configure them correctly hipchat/slack is just install on whatever os/ur phone and click go
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Blotto Skorzany posted:what? you don't need a bouncer or any of that poo poo. let your irc client live in a screen/tmux/whatever session in your vps, boom done lol, i don't think you know what the word "janitoring" means in this context because this is the loving definition of janitoring.
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"how can i see what people said before me in irc, i want to catch up on a conversation"
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Nov 9, 2015 02:03
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gabensraum posted:any of you used mattermost for team chat? http://www.mattermost.org There was a [0] conversation about this on HN [1] recently that might be of use. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_articles#Indefinite_article [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/
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my company has like 8 different chat clients they use depending on what team you're working on. management got wind and made the grand declaration that we're all moving to slack. except we still use hangouts for one-on-one messaging and video conferencing (along with bluejeans/webex/gotomeeting) and dev is staging an insurgency and staying on flowdock because slack doesn't have threading (how tf does slack not have threading?)
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thanks cobbers i like irc, i like jabber, i use both for various things. there's a certain level of sugar that hipchat, slack, et. al. bring for dev teams, things like embedding links, pasting code, tagging comments for later filtering/searching. yeah hipchat would be nice because of its integration with jira and confluence, our entire organisation uses jira and confluence so those licences are good value, but only a small number of us would use stash/bamboo/hipchat, but we're not quite small enough to qualify for the cheap rates and we can't afford the next step up. so we run free source control and CI tools, and mattermost looks like it will fit that purpose pretty well. LDAP support is on the way too which would be ideal. will give it a run and report back
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uninterrupted posted:my company has like 8 different chat clients they use depending on what team you're working on. we have
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Nov 9, 2015 03:51
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we only use email and phone calls as god intended
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we use flowdock and i quite like it old place used lync and before that notes sametime and they were both bad
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Suspicious Dish posted:"how can i see what people said before me in irc, i want to catch up on a conversation" irc, the idle relay chat.
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irc is poo poo and most of the time i just have to paste people irc logs on google chat
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Blotto Skorzany posted:you install it and then run the command. i think it already comes installed on most distros anyways 95% of my company posted:what's a "distro"?
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uninterrupted posted:my company has like 8 different chat clients they use depending on what team you're working on. threaded conversations are for wankers who want their opinion to be heard on every possible tangent of a conversation this is why it works so well on HN and reddit
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Nov 9, 2015 11:08
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Blotto Skorzany posted:i don't see what's hard about setting that up for a team but i'll take your word for it since i don't cj, but what 'setting up' does screen take lol
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what do you need? well we kinda need a web forum, you know, long running flat threads, user accounts, password recovery, registration, inline images, attachments, oh and full text search, and we want it to update as people are posting. have you considered that maybe you need irc? i know it's stateless, and has none of the above but surely every team member can just ssh into the same box, attach screen and jump into bash to grep for logs on the sared directory, assuming that bot doesn't go down
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ahmeni posted:threaded conversations are for wankers who want their opinion to be heard on every possible tangent of a conversation the only thing worse than threaded conversations is ranked threaded conversations
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still not seeing the problem, teffu, but i appreciate getting dogpiled by the depressed angry scotsman who barely poasts these days. it has more of that vintage coc feel we've been lacking since AD got absorbed into umad ison or brozilla or wherever he's working now
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Nov 9, 2015 15:21
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Blotto Skorzany posted:still not seeing the problem lol
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people here can barely figure out how to skype
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Blotto Skorzany posted:still not seeing the problem, teffu it's u
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the most effective person i know: is almost never in the office, is never on skype, only replies to emails between the hours of 8-9AM, and 4-5PM. i gotta get there.
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Shaggar posted:the only thing worse than threaded conversations is ranked threaded conversations shaggar was right
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tef posted:it's u tef posted:shaggar was right
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i don't know that I've ever seen threaded conversations in a chat client. how does that even work?
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Barnyard Protein posted:the most effective person i know: is almost never in the office, is never on skype, only replies to emails between the hours of 8-9AM, and 4-5PM. i gotta get there. this was me for a couple years (minus out of office) and then management happened
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:i don't know that I've ever seen threaded conversations in a chat client. how does that even work? Click on a message. Reply to that, new thread. Each thread is coloured so you can click on a thread, even though the main view shows all chat organised by time.
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Maluco Marinero posted:Click on a message. Reply to that, new thread. Each thread is coloured so you can click on a thread, even though the main view shows all chat organised by time. This sounds like the IM equivalent of the forum post dissecting every line from 4 different posts. I guess it's made for people who want their opinion in everything.
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Maluco Marinero posted:Click on a message. Reply to that, new thread. Each thread is coloured so you can click on a thread, even though the main view shows all chat organised by time. this was in google wave and it sucked lol
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Nov 9, 2015 17:26
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threaded conversations are like that time you chatted with that really annoying guy who always wanted to move the topic back to the last thing you talked about because he had something to say about that
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Suspicious Dish posted:threaded conversations are like that time you chatted with that really annoying guy who always wanted to move the topic back to the last thing you talked about because he had something to say about that ...or you have a dev channel, and there's a discussion on a server outage, rewriting deployment instructions, how to turn on a feature, and whether or not a hot dog is a sandwich, and you want the chat to be readable.
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Nov 9, 2015 18:32
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sometimes, for some subjects and some environments, threaded conversations are good. sometimes, for some subjects and some environments, threaded conversations are bad. its crazy
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so in these threaded chat things, conversations are really just reddit threads? sounds awesome.
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just use vbulletin in the cloud imo
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i mean IRC as a protocol can probably be adapted to the enterprise but only if you put a graphical client in front of it that will autoconnect to the right server and hide all of its legacy horror e: and i mean graphical too, not some x11 "console in a window" hsit ee: 
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