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Veskit posted:At the end of the day a college president doesn't believe in systematic racism, but that black people aren't rising to the opportunities given to them. Then not only did he believe it in his heart, he said it to students as a means of inspiration. Ahh, I see the confusion. I believe he's trying to say that the systemic oppression means that the students of color don't have access to equal opportunities, not that they are not rising on their own to meet them.
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Nov 9, 2015 23:05
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Here's a guy we can all be guilt-free mad at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pLobWHDdVw His closing benediction. quote:“America, repent that Dumbledore emerged as a homosexual mentor for Harry Potter, that Hiccup’s mentor in ‘How to Train Your Dragon’ emerged as a homosexual himself in order that history might repeat itself one more time, in order that little six- and seven- and eight-year-olds might stumble, in order that tens of millions of parents, it would be better that a millstone be hanged around their neck and they be drowned at the bottom of the sea than that there would be so many people stumbling so many children in public schools, in movie theaters, in homes in which children are raised to be stumbled by the Dumbledores and by the mentors of Hiccup in ‘How to Train Your Dragon’!”
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Nov 9, 2015 23:06
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quote:homes in which children are raised to be stumbled by the Dumbledores and by the mentors of Hiccup in ‘How to Train Your Dragon’!” The real miracle is that a human being can say that without bursting into laughter. Look, I'm using humor as a coping mechanism. Let me roll with it.
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Nov 9, 2015 23:22
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Veskit posted:I was going to quote the video but the post is gone. At least continue your point with the correct info. I took a quote from a Washington Post that actually got it wrong. Then I watched the video and it matches what you said so that's all.
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Nov 9, 2015 23:25
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Minority Yale students must have it really rough knowing that they're at the second best ivy, it must be a real existential dread. Well, that and then being black too I guess.
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Nov 9, 2015 23:26
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Joementum posted:Ahh, I see the confusion. I believe he's trying to say that the systemic oppression means that the students of color don't have access to equal opportunities, not that they are not rising on their own to meet them. While he may have been trying to say the former, it came out seeming more like the latter to an awful lot of people, many of whom aren't particularly inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Nov 9, 2015 23:27
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Milk Malk posted:Minority Yale students must have it really rough knowing that they're at the second best ivy, it must be a real existential dread. Well, that and then being black too I guess. Just look at what that heady brew did to Clarence Thomas.
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Nov 9, 2015 23:32
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MC Nietzche posted:Just look at what that heady brew did to Clarence Thomas. That was the law school - he was a Holy Cross undergrad, I believe.
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Nov 9, 2015 23:38
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Joementum posted:Ahh, I see the confusion. I believe he's trying to say that the systemic oppression means that the students of color don't have access to equal opportunities, not that they are not rising on their own to meet them. Yeah, if this is a tragic repeated failure of messaging, I feel a bit bad for the guy - on the other hand, messaging is a pretty big part of being a university president, so even if we give him the benefit of the doubt on his statements and his clunky bureaucratic responses to endemic racial issues, he still needs to up his game. I'm not sure it's exactly a firing offense, but I also don't see him exactly being a professional pariah. If nothing else, he fell on his sword to protect the functioning of the institution and its football money. 
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Nov 9, 2015 23:41
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Business Gorillas posted:maybe i'm just not progressive enough but i can't feel bad for people that vote for people that slash the benefits of others and then get their own benefits slashed Then don't feel bad for him. Feel bad for the people his vote cancelled out who voted for the other guy.
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Nov 9, 2015 23:42
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Captain_Maclaine posted:While he may have been trying to say the former, it came out seeming more like the latter to an awful lot of people, many of whom aren't particularly inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. From the reports I've heard from Concerned Student 1950 he didn't deserve the benefit of the doubt. Remember, up until the last few weeks it was Loftin's head on the block, but after dealing with both Loftin and Wolfe, CS1950 and the Forum for Graduate Rights determined Loftin was a dummy, but was willing to listen. The reports I've heard is they believed Wolfe was totally unwilling to listen. So, I don't think he misspoke. I think he really is that much of an rear end in a top hat.
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Nov 9, 2015 23:44
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Yeah, if this is a tragic repeated failure of messaging, I feel a bit bad for the guy - on the other hand, messaging is a pretty big part of being a university president, so even if we give him the benefit of the doubt on his statements and his clunky bureaucratic responses to endemic racial issues, he still needs to up his game. I think he should be fired for threatening to run over a student.
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Nov 9, 2015 23:45
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Yeah, if this is a tragic repeated failure of messaging, I feel a bit bad for the guy - on the other hand, messaging is a pretty big part of being a university president, so even if we give him the benefit of the doubt on his statements and his clunky bureaucratic responses to endemic racial issues, he still needs to up his game. Is unilaterally decreasing every graduate student's aid package immediately before the semester started just a messaging issue too?
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Nov 9, 2015 23:50
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zoux posted:Oh well I guess his death is good and funny then. It's funny how hard you're trolling for the "gently caress the people who didn't vote for democrats" response that you're not getting. Almost like people are wising up to your tired schtick.
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Nov 9, 2015 23:53
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Radbot posted:It's funny how hard you're trolling for the "gently caress the people who didn't vote for democrats" response that you're not getting. Almost like people are wising up to your tired schtick. next thing you know, he'll be white knighting a pregnant woman
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Nov 9, 2015 23:54
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Joementum posted:Ahh, I see the confusion. I believe he's trying to say that the systemic oppression means that the students of color don't have access to equal opportunities, not that they are not rising on their own to meet them. You can quibbble about what he might or not believe. But what's incontravertible are his actions, and they're worth him getting fired. Good riddance.
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Nov 9, 2015 23:54
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In what probably qualifies for self harm, I ended up volunteering for a 2016 race before the results for 2015 were even in. (There will be a primary fight to take on Susan Brooks, so Election Day is in May as far as it matters for us right now) Where I'm going with this is that I'm still overworked so can someone give me a tl dr for the new title?
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Nov 9, 2015 23:55
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paranoid randroid posted:next thing you know, he'll be white knighting a pregnant woman What are you talking about? A quote please?
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Nov 9, 2015 23:56
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alpha_destroy posted:From the reports I've heard from Concerned Student 1950 he didn't deserve the benefit of the doubt. Remember, up until the last few weeks it was Loftin's head on the block, but after dealing with both Loftin and Wolfe, CS1950 and the Forum for Graduate Rights determined Loftin was a dummy, but was willing to listen. The reports I've heard is they believed Wolfe was totally unwilling to listen. That's a bit interesting and does sound plausible.
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Nov 9, 2015 23:56
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Built 4 Cuban Linux posted:I took a quote from a Washington Post that actually got it wrong. Then I watched the video and it matches what you said so that's all. poo poo my bad. Joementum posted:Ahh, I see the confusion. I believe he's trying to say that the systemic oppression means that the students of color don't have access to equal opportunities, not that they are not rising on their own to meet them. Then why would he say you're not going to like my answer. They're not going to like the answer to the question that heavily implies it's about inequality? Please. The only answer they wouldn't like is that there is no such thing and they need to get over it.
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Nov 9, 2015 23:57
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On my phone, so I can't get the news story, but I believe Loftin is transitioning into a research position. Soooo... CS1950 took down two people in one day. That's nuts.
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Nov 9, 2015 23:59
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zoux posted:Here's a guy we can all be guilt-free mad at: Bah, he would probaly murder-sucide his entire family if one of his kids turned out gay, which is sad. then again this guy thinks Aquinas and mark twain are deamons
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Nov 10, 2015 00:00
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Radbot posted:It's funny how hard you're trolling for the "gently caress the people who didn't vote for democrats" response that you're not getting. Almost like people are wising up to your tired schtick. I think people are offering up that response pretty willingly.
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Nov 10, 2015 00:01
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Shageletic posted:You can quibbble about what he might or not believe. But what's incontravertible are his actions, and they're worth him getting fired. Good riddance. Spreading poo poo swastikas is a firing offense, I agree.
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Nov 10, 2015 00:02
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Badger of Basra posted:I think people are offering up that response pretty willingly. And the normal, infantilizing responses to go with it. BAU. Maybe we should actually ask these voters about whether they want internet liberals defending their right to healthcare that they don't want? How much clearer do they need to make this to you? loving respect these people, Christ.
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Nov 10, 2015 00:02
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Fried Chicken posted:In what probably qualifies for self harm, I ended up volunteering for a 2016 race before the results for 2015 were even in. (There will be a primary fight to take on Susan Brooks, so Election Day is in May as far as it matters for us right now) Tim Wolfe, President of U. of Mo. at Columbia, got resigned.
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Nov 10, 2015 00:02
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Veskit posted:Then why would he say you're not going to like my answer. They're not going to like the answer to the question that heavily implies it's about inequality? Please. The only answer they wouldn't like is that there is no such thing and they need to get over it. He didn't say that. He said, "I will give you an answer and I'm sure it will be a wrong answer."
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Nov 10, 2015 00:03
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"These grown men and women have repeatedly rebuked Obamacare at the polls, but they know not what they want. They deserve empathy for their decisions, because I have decided they are wrong. Poor widdle Southerners."
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Nov 10, 2015 00:04
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Fried Chicken posted:In what probably qualifies for self harm, I ended up volunteering for a 2016 race before the results for 2015 were even in. (There will be a primary fight to take on Susan Brooks, so Election Day is in May as far as it matters for us right now) or US Pol Nov: Jeb! would "fix" baby Hitler
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Nov 10, 2015 00:05
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Joementum posted:He didn't say that. He said, "I will give you an answer and I'm sure it will be a wrong answer." He sealed his own fate.
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Nov 10, 2015 00:09
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You know, it isn't even difficult to come up with a fairminded summation. Nobody deserves what's happening in Kansas/Kentucky/whichever state is getting screwed today, but they sure as hell don't have anyone to else to blame. As for what we (referring to Democrats and progressives generally) should do about it? I favor trying to get Debbie Wasserman-Schultz bounced out of the DNC on her rear end and reinstating Howard Dean. Or you know, someone who was awake during his tenure at least. You know why progressive politics never make any headway in states like Kentucky? Because there's no loving ground game. Even if winning is flatly impossible, there's still a strategic advantage in putting up a fight.
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Nov 10, 2015 00:09
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Has SEC football been destroyed yet, inshallah?
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US Politics Megathread November, or, In Which it is Debated Which Ideologically Incorrect Opinions Merit the Guillotine: All Of Them, or None? turns out the truth is in the middle, Cartman
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Nov 10, 2015 00:11
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fool_of_sound posted:Has SEC football been destroyed yet, inshallah? Missouri and Kentucky are terrible but thats not enough to destroy the SEC east.
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Nov 10, 2015 00:12
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Radbot posted:"These grown men and women have repeatedly rebuked Obamacare at the polls, but they know not what they want. They deserve empathy for their decisions, because I have decided they are wrong. Poor widdle Southerners." what about the people who voted in th eminority. gently caress them too for living in a red state?
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fool_of_sound posted:Has SEC football been destroyed yet, inshallah? That's like asking if we've shelled that shimmering mirage on the horizon. SEC football exists only as an internal illusion of football, only as real as the twisted light shining through a layer of impossibly humid air. Travelers bearing contracts and draft picks gleefully hurl them into the mirage like so many others before them, only to suffer years of torment before consigning their charge to free agency or Canada.
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Nov 10, 2015 00:21
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Radbot posted:"These grown men and women have repeatedly rebuked Obamacare at the polls, but they know not what they want. They deserve empathy for their decisions, because I have decided they are wrong. Poor widdle Southerners." Yes they do deserve empathy because they were gratuitously misled by the powerful and persuasive into voting directly against their own self interest and that is a bummer man
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Joementum posted:He didn't say that. He said, "I will give you an answer and I'm sure it will be a wrong answer." Semantics aside why would "systematic oppression exists" be a wrong answer when a black person to his face asks what is systematic oppression?
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