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Jewel Repetition posted:*In constipated voice* Little fuckers You might also say he's jealous of Hitler's ability to expand detention capacity. e: http://www.c-span.org/video/?60648-1/florida-gubernatorial-debate I was like 10 years old back then but fifth grade was prime time for "learn how government works" type stuff and lo and behold I remember watching this poo poo and wondering what this jeb rube was on about. Chiles was this weird amalgam of southern shitkicker with some neat stuff thrown in like constitutional maximums for class sizes. Southern new-dealer through and through I guess. FAUXTON fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Nov 10, 2015 |
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Do Not Resuscitate posted:I took it to mean that the guy commenting about the prank wasn't actually present where/when the fake test was given. Whoops, yeah my bad, I misunderstood. Guess I should've actually read the whole thing 
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Joementum posted:He just said he doesn't remember who showed up. Carson might have. And he said they gave out a cash prize to some of the students who stayed through the whole thing. I don't see how this is supposed to make people feel better about Carson's understanding of reality. According to his story, if I remember it correctly, 149 people figured out it was a prank and got up and walked out and Carson was the only person naive enough to stick it out to the end. That's not someone I want in the White House. edit: the truth is worse than Carson's lovely memory being false
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I don't know how corporate taxation works in the US, but here in Canada, there's perhaps 1% of the population that understands that, unlike personal income taxes, corporate incomes taxes are paid on profit, not income. A higher tax rate will not kill a struggling business, it will just lessen the amount that exists to be paid out in dividends to shareholders. If the business is not showing a profit, it does not owe corporate income tax. Now, if you were paying yourself by dividend instead of salary to save on your personal income taxes, and you didn't leave enough to pay your corporate income taxes, that's a problem. But it's entirely your fault, and you could just as easily pay yourself a salary and show no profit on the corporate level. But all we hear is how higher corporate tax rates would hurt business and make it nigh-impossible to attract investment (because our province boosted its rate by something like 1% last budget). I don't think anyone short of tax accountants has a clue how the tax system functions.
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Man, it would have been a lot better had Ben just made up the test out of nowhere (Where did the guy say they gave students money for completing it?) But, all is not lost. Two possibilities remain: 1. Carson's still making up the money, photo, 'most honest student', 'only person who stayed' bit 2. He's just finding out now, decades later, that he got pranked.
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Nov 10, 2015 01:26
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  I'm just thinking of what schoolyard lies in the pre-Googling days kids would tell.  And no, Eric, you definitely didn't unlock blood graphics in MK for the SNES.
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PT6A posted:I don't know how corporate taxation works in the US, but here in Canada, there's perhaps 1% of the population that understands that, unlike personal income taxes, corporate incomes taxes are paid on profit, not income. A higher tax rate will not kill a struggling business, it will just lessen the amount that exists to be paid out in dividends to shareholders. If the business is not showing a profit, it does not owe corporate income tax. Now, if you were paying yourself by dividend instead of salary to save on your personal income taxes, and you didn't leave enough to pay your corporate income taxes, that's a problem. But it's entirely your fault, and you could just as easily pay yourself a salary and show no profit on the corporate level.
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radical meme posted:if I remember it correctly, 149 people figured out it was a prank and got up and walked out and Carson was the only person naive enough to stick it out to the end. That's not someone I want in the White House. To be fair, turning getting pranked into an inspirational tale about how honest and righteous and great you are is exactly the kind of thing you should expect to happen in the mind of the kind of megalomaniac who wants to become president.
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Triglav posted:What would be better? The problem is that by expressing it that way it's not clear that the calculation is based on separate tranches of the income total. The effective percentage tax rate taken as a whole depends on the actual taxable income. A total income just barely above one of the thresholds has an effective tax rate that's considerably lower than that for an AGI towards the upper end of the bracket. A CEO with a $5,000,000 income pays the same 0% tax rate on the first $10K (or whatever) that a poor person pays (ignoring AMT). And nobody ever gets less net income after taxes by making more money (again, ignoring AMT).
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I actually saw one of these hats while doing an inventory for a Halloween shop that was packing up for the year. I told them I was disappointed at the lack of gold trim.
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Doctor Butts posted:Man, it would have been a lot better had Ben just made up the test out of nowhere (Where did the guy say they gave students money for completing it?) The article says there was a small cash prize. The only details Carson got wrong were the name of the course, the year he took the course, and the person who gave him the prize (Carson said it was a professor, the article says it was someone posing as a proctor). Carson is quoted in the article saying that his co-writer for his book embellished a few details (such as the name of the course) to make it flashier. Doesn't seem like a huge scandal compared to the other poo poo he's done recently.
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Samuel Clemens posted:Why does Jeb Bush hate babies so much?
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Actually it's about ethics in college testing
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Samuel Clemens posted:Why does Jeb Bush hate babies so much? Anyone who attended public K-12 school in Florida during his reign would immediately inform you that his sadism is not limited just to infants.
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Samuel Clemens posted:Why does Jeb Bush hate babies so much? Let's just say that the baby he'd really like to off was born in the late '40s. 
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Disillusionist posted:Doesn't seem like a huge scandal compared to the other poo poo he's done recently. The scandal is he was too naive to realize it was a prank.
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Isn't the whole "kill baby hitler" thing a setup for a philosophical examination of the implications of time travel, and isn't the right answer that it's impossible and a foolish question? We may have ended up with Hitler because somebody went back in time and killed somebody else, allowing Hitler to rise to power. Killing Hitler means that George H. W. Bush probably wasn't a war hero and there's no Jeb! anyway. Killing Hitler might allow somebody worse (and less crazy) to sieze power, or to allow Stalin to conquer all of Europe. Etc. It's not a serious question and to express firm conviction on any course of action is an uninformed way of answering the question. Not that the answer is surprising of course.
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emfive posted:Isn't the whole "kill baby hitler" thing a setup for a philosophical examination of the implications of time travel, and isn't the right answer that it's impossible and a foolish question? killing baby hitler would probably have resulted in Prescott Bush being crowned Emperor of the American Fascist Empire after his coup against FDR and his dynasty ruling for 1000 years. this is why jeb wants to kill a baby
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Jeb is going to turn killing baby Hitler into a gotcha question.
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You can't kill baby Hitler.PT6A posted:I don't know how corporate taxation works in the US, but here in Canada, there's perhaps 1% of the population that understands that, unlike personal income taxes, corporate incomes taxes are paid on profit, not income. A higher tax rate will not kill a struggling business, it will just lessen the amount that exists to be paid out in dividends to shareholders. If the business is not showing a profit, it does not owe corporate income tax. Now, if you were paying yourself by dividend instead of salary to save on your personal income taxes, and you didn't leave enough to pay your corporate income taxes, that's a problem. But it's entirely your fault, and you could just as easily pay yourself a salary and show no profit on the corporate level. That's similar to how it is in the United States, but dividends count towards income. They're calculated after normal income and taxed like capital gains. In normal circumstances, it's not as much of a loophole as it sounds, but for those abnormalities there's the alternative minimum tax that every GOP candidate wants to eliminate. And C and S corporations paying too little or too much are auditing targets. emfive posted:The problem is that by expressing it that way it's not clear that the calculation is based on separate tranches of the income total. The effective percentage tax rate taken as a whole depends on the actual taxable income. A total income just barely above one of the thresholds has an effective tax rate that's considerably lower than that for an AGI towards the upper end of the bracket.  Samuel Clemens posted:Why does Jeb Bush hate babies so much?
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The https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz27Et1eUeU
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Man it's like none of you guys remember the lessons taught to us by Red Alert & Red Alert II
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Necc0 posted:Man it's like none of you guys remember the lessons taught to us by Red Alert & Red Alert II Time vvill tell, sooner or later.
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Triglav posted:That's similar to how it is in the United States, but dividends count towards income. They're calculated after normal income and taxed like capital gains. In normal circumstances, it's not as much of a loophole as it sounds, but for those abnormalities there's the alternative minimum tax that every GOP candidate wants to eliminate. Yeah, same thing here. Dividends are treated specially (it's a fairly convoluted system involving a gross-up and a tax credit, which works out to you paying less than normal income tax) on the personal level, and are only paid out after corporate taxes have been paid. If you calculate it out versus paying yourself in salary instead (in which case it's an expense at the corporate level, so you wouldn't pay corporate income tax on that amount), it turns out that the government collects almost the exact same amount in total regardless of how you do it. It's almost as if.... follow me on this... they planned it that way. EDIT: I've never understood why people think the IRS (or its equivalent in Canada, the CRA) are incompetent or anything like that. They perform a vital function for government and society to operate, they do it in a brutally effective way, and to be honest, every time I've had to deal with them or ask them questions, they've been extremely pleasant in answering my questions or helping me. Granted, some of those answers result in me paying taxes, interest, or (very rarely) penalties, but that's not their fault. I'm not going to say I love paying taxes (just sent my corporate taxes in this morning, so it's fresh in my mind), but it's a necessary thing that's a part of making money. As my granddad liked to say: "he who pays no taxes has made no money." The first year I actually had to pay corporate tax, after all the expenses were considered, I considered it something to be proud of. PT6A fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Nov 10, 2015 |
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quote:“When I read about the story in the Wall Street Journal, I immediately said, to my wife and friend, ‘That was the prank we played at the Record! And Ben Carson was in the class,’” said Bakal, who noted he wasn’t actually present during the taking of the fake test. “We did a mock parody of the Yale Daily News during the exam period in January 1970, and in this parody we had a box that said: ‘So-and-so section of the exam has been lost in a fire. Professor so-and-so is going to give a makeup exam.’” I'm confused, how does he know Ben Carson was in that class? Andrew Kaczynski posted:Here's Carson's mother in a 1997 profile of the Ben Carson play saying the stabbing incident happened by the way... pic.twitter.com/WifmQsMJlJ But the snippet of the article says it was a classmate he stabbed.
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My uncle works at Nintendo
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Killing Baby Hitler means we don't get to spend 70 years rubbing Europe's nose in WE SAVED YER ASSES IN DUBYA DUBYA TWO!!1 Nice going, Jeb.
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Joementum posted:The It would mean tens of thousands of US troops being deployed to Iraq and Syria for decades if not permanently, but it's more of a plan than "we'd defeat Putin/Assad/ISIL by being manlier than Obama".
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emfive posted:Killing Hitler means that George H. W. Bush probably wasn't a war hero and there's no Jeb! anyway. Enh. Pops fought in the Pacific theater, and I don't see Japan's antics in the far east changing substantially even if it hadn't joined the Axis. Not that this isn't counterfactual as balls, of course.
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radical meme posted:The scandal is he was too naive to realize it was a prank. His supporters won't care. It's not a scandal if it doesn't hurt him at all. The timing of this could not be worse for these types of stories. This is happening right after the hissy fit they threw about the "unfair" debates. Then the "liberal media" raises questions about the West Point and Yale stories. Turns out Carson fudged a few details but inserted enough truths in the stories to convince his followers. The fact that Politico had to apologize and change their headline is "proof" that the media is out to get him. This is all feeding into his existing narrative.
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agent_wildflower posted:
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emfive posted:Isn't the whole "kill baby hitler" thing a setup for a philosophical examination of the implications of time travel, and isn't the right answer that it's impossible and a foolish question? Whoa there buddy, this is the 2016 GOP Primary we're talking about here. Nuance stops at "Hitler." But as for the "someone else would come along" it's hard to pry apart Hitler's personal animus and determinations of who "enemies of the state" were from the general attitude of Germany at the time. A lot of people were desperate for a way out of Germany's situation at the time, and lingering resentment over losing WWI didn't help. Whether that resentment extended all the way to the holocaust is probably never going to be answered, as would the question of whether someone worse would have shown up, since even trying to puzzle out Stalin's actions in the absence of Hitler gets confounded by his tendency toward a sort of paranoid, purge-happy isolationism before, well, Barbarossa. Even the invasion of Georgia in like 1921 falls into question because of its prior existence as part of the Russian Empire as well as its independence being seen as a German ploy at kneecapping the glorious soviet revolution. On the other hand, the post-WWII crackdown echoed that invasion in a lot of ways, anti-Western paranoia and all. In short, Hitler was a bastard and probably should have been aborted but who knows what would have happened as a result.
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Have we talked about cool and good dude Ben Carson saying stuff to the good people of Puerto Rico? Article quote:Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson endorsed U.S. statehood for Puerto Rico on Sunday, citing its "very strategic" location for military defense. This is all great news... for Jeb!!!
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fade5 posted:I mean to be fair, he does have a plan to defeat ISIL. Invest in defense contractors today! Get in on the ground floor!
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Necc0 posted:Man it's like none of you guys remember the lessons taught to us by Red Alert & Red Alert II seriously
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No one's even quoting the best part of Bush Baby Hitler, which is that he explains the problem with going back and changing history is that, as we know from Back to the Future, it could have a disastrous effect on everything else. Dude's such a nerd.
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