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Surprised that we had no discussion of a serving General being backed by No.10 after publically criticising the policy of the political opposition. The government's (horseshit) justification is that it was appropriate because he's the government's defence adviser. Allowing a serving general to dip his toes into politics is setting a dirty, horrible precedent. You can insert your own slippery slope argument here.
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Oberleutnant posted:Surprised that we had no discussion of a serving General being backed by No.10 after publically criticising the policy of the political opposition. The government's (horseshit) justification is that it was appropriate because he's the government's defence adviser. I wish I could be surprised by it, but this government in particular has shown that it has no qualms about any seedy business so long as it works in their short term advantage. It goes beyond competing ideologies or corporate capture - they're all round a bunch of power hungry scumbags.
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 11:11 |
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The Armed Forces interfering in politics is pretty loving terrifying but I'm sure that the right-wing commentariat who are all about the Liberty will be criticising this in the strongest possible terms. Who am I kidding, we're hosed.
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 11:18 |
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Yeah I saw that - I'm sure I saw reports of them basically reinforcing what he said too. Not too surprising since he didn't just magically appear on TV in full dress uniform to spout some reckons. Nice to know being a government advisor means you get carte blanche to propagandise in the media! This is a great photo choice
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 11:19 |
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Crashbee posted:She's also a black woman in a position of power who once said something bad about white people, which is what right-wingers seem to hate the most. You're overthinking it. She's a black woman who hosed a white man. That's all right wingers need to hate her.
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 11:31 |
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baka kaba posted:Yeah I saw that - I'm sure I saw reports of them basically reinforcing what he said too. Not too surprising since he didn't just magically appear on TV in full dress uniform to spout some reckons. Nice to know being a government advisor means you get carte blanche to propagandise in the media! It's not unethical if you're slagging off Corbyn, duh.
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 11:37 |
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Jedit posted:You're overthinking it. She's a black woman who hosed a white man. That's all right wingers need to hate her. Somewhere on Bizarro D&D there's a monthly UK thread filled with nothing but "Jeremy Corbyn hosed a black woman" in various permutations
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 11:38 |
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Jedit posted:You're overthinking it. She's a black woman who hosed a white man. That's all right wingers need to hate her. In both senses of the word, I guess. Also it's pretty drat scary that military officials are taking a partisan stance on issues rather than being the glorified civil servants they are. Glad to know that politicians have to answer to the military, which makes us a model democracy rather than a military dictatorship.
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 11:39 |
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Jedit posted:You're overthinking it. She's a black woman who hosed a white man. That's all right wingers need to hate her. Well either way they definitely like accusing her of racism. There's a guy on Guido Fawkes who does nothing but call her a 'fat loving racist cow' for example. Crashbee fucked around with this message at 11:54 on Nov 10, 2015 |
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Crashbee posted:Well either way they definitely like accusing her of racism. There's a guy on Guido Fawkes who does nothing but call her a 'fat loving racist cow' for example. You'd think if you wanted to call someone racist and take the high ground then you wouldn't immediately follow with a sexist insult, but then I guess sexism (against women) doesn't exist in TYOOL 2015 and the only kind of discrimination that's important now is that against white men.
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 11:57 |
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Noxville posted:He'll get nothing but the most minor concessions (because he and his team are the worst negotiatiors) and hold these up as a grand victory that justifies a Stay vote because as one of the rich countries the EU is worth too much money to us to justify leaving. Every single thing Cameron does reminds me how shocked I was that they got a majority. It just feels like nobody pays attention to anything.
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 12:26 |
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Red Ed eat the sandwich. It was the Sun wot won it. Etc.
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 12:30 |
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Cameron has released Rule Britannia, Britannia rule the waves, Britons never never shall be slaves to brussels-based banana straighteners LemonDrizzle fucked around with this message at 12:46 on Nov 10, 2015 |
# ? Nov 10, 2015 12:35 |
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"I want this to be a formal, binding , and irreversible way" - Whatever happened to no Parliament being able to bind any future Parliament?
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 12:40 |
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"Free flow of capital, goods, and services, but not people or labour."
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 12:40 |
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And of course I know the answer here is that a change to the EU's treaty in respect of Britain isn't actually legally binding Parliament in any way - it's binding the EU in its relationship to Parliament, which is either utterly meaningless because a different parliament could ask (and get an agreement to) renegotiate these agreements yet again, or it's a dirty as gently caress way to circumvent one of the cornerstones of our Parliamentary system. Either or.
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 12:42 |
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My rough take is that the Economic Governance stuff is perfectly reasonable and will win strong support from the other non-eurozone Member States (it basically boils down to "you lot have chosen to shackle yourselves into a completely unworkable monetary union and hey, that's your business, but don't drag us under if you founder or expect us to pay to keep your shitshow afloat"), the Competitiveness stuff is so vague and woolly as to be meaningless, the Sovereignty stuff is harmless verbiage for the most part and won't upset anybody but the most ardent euro-federalists, and the Immigration one is going to be incredibly contentious. So no real surprises, I guess.
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 12:43 |
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Angepain posted:Somewhere on Bizarro D&D there's a monthly UK thread filled with nothing but "Jeremy Corbyn hosed a black woman" in various permutations Actually, traditionally rightwingers have not had a problem with this specific combination (which is why black people in the New World tend to come in a variety of shades of brown). If she were a dude, or if they got married or something, sure.
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 12:48 |
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Just watched the final hustings for the Labour leadership for the first time today after missing it many moons ago. Looking back on the race and the candidates, it's fun to see Jeremy Corbyn so decisive and upstanding in his views and beliefs on the questions, while the others felt so cagey and "politician" about the whole thing. Their measured tones and rhythmic speech patternation as if set to a loving metronome. And Andy Burnham, oh my God. With his immaculately plucked eyebrows and polished, porcelain features, powdered and preened to lifeless perfection. Jesus how could anyone have supported such a man. Yeah, looking back at it all it's hard to see how Corbyn could not win.
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 13:00 |
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quote:It means addressing the fact that it is easier for an EU citizen to bring a non-EU spouse to Britain than it is for a British citizen to do the same. I know what he's getting at but lol at having the audacity to phrase it like British citizens have the EU to blame
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 13:08 |
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DesperateDan posted:All the good intentions and policies regarding school lunches are not really going to make a difference without getting through to the parents. My kids school has a really good lunches program that uses locally produced stuff where possible, still doesn't stop me seeing 5 year old kids on the school run having a breakfast of coke and a mars bar forced into them before the gates. I'm old school. My Dad worked in Libya when there were no direct flights back to England, so he often came back through Amsterdam. Consequently, be had a big cardboard box of eyewateringly hardcore euro porn. At lunchtimes, I ran a smut palace, charging per head for the viewing, and mixing drinks for the punters for additional extortionate charges.
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 13:25 |
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Kokoro Wish posted:And Andy Burnham, oh my God. With his immaculately plucked eyebrows and polished, porcelain features, powdered and preened to lifeless perfection. Jesus how could anyone have supported such a man. Andy Burnham isn't a man, he's an animatronic.
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 13:27 |
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Noxville posted:Andy Burnham isn't a man, he's an animatronic.
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 13:29 |
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That was literally my first thought when I saw him. Though I guess my brain was being kind at the time and I imagined more of a Captain Scarlet rather than a Stingray.
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 13:30 |
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Next to Burnham that puppet oozes charisma (and probably has stronger political convictions)
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 13:38 |
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A critique of Thunderbirds as propaganda for bourgeois philanthropy enabled by laissez faire economic policies, in 3 volumes.
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 13:44 |
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Digby Jones is a shouty moron who only cares about grinding the poor under his fat foot.
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 13:48 |
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Kokoro Wish posted:That was literally my first thought when I saw him. Though I guess my brain was being kind at the time and I imagined more of a Captain Scarlet rather than a Stingray. Oberleutnant posted:A critique of Thunderbirds as propaganda for bourgeois philanthropy enabled by laissez faire economic policies, in 3 volumes.
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 14:00 |
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Guavanaut posted:Captain Pastel Pink Captain Puce.
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 14:01 |
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The government have had to cancel a cross party trip to China to build relations because Danczuk refused to fly economy.
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 14:13 |
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Baron Corbyn posted:The government have had to cancel a cross party trip to China to build relations because Danczuk refused to fly economy. what really good grief that man is a right prat, isn't he
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Baron Corbyn posted:The government have had to cancel a cross party trip to China to build relations because Danczuk refused to fly economy. Time to have the courage of your convictions, Danczuk, and cross the floor. Or see if Carswell wants some company.
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 14:15 |
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Kokoro Wish posted:Just watched the final hustings for the Labour leadership for the first time today after missing it many moons ago. Looking back on the race and the candidates, it's fun to see Jeremy Corbyn so decisive and upstanding in his views and beliefs on the questions, while the others felt so cagey and "politician" about the whole thing. Their measured tones and rhythmic speech patternation as if set to a loving metronome. And Andy Burnham, oh my God. With his immaculately plucked eyebrows and polished, porcelain features, powdered and preened to lifeless perfection. Jesus how could anyone have supported such a man. https://storify.com/willowhisky/corbyn-cannot-win-tweets-from-verified-accounts Still my favourite thing from Corbyn's win.
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 14:18 |
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Remember when people though Liz Kendall might win? lol
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 14:30 |
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Baron Corbyn posted:The government have had to cancel a cross party trip to China to build relations because Danczuk refused to fly economy. lol
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 14:32 |
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Look at this poo poo. Look at it! Sweden calls on army to help manage refugee crisis Military chiefs to aid migration agencies as Scandinavian country that has taken far beyond its share of migrants strains from sheer weight of numbers Sweden's struggling to deal with the sheer number of refugees they're taking in, that they've called in the army... to help with admin and logistics. I'll just sprinkle in a few quotes so we can compare and contrast with our fine nation quote:On Monday, military officers were sent to help coordinate logistics at Migrationsverket, Sweden’s refugee and immigration agency. They will be involved at a management level, rather than on the ground. quote:Sweden is bearing a disproportional burden of the European refugee crisis, due in part to its pledge in 2013 to provide permanent residency to almost any Syrian who reached Swedish soil. Of the roughly 800,000 people to have arrived in Europe by sea this year, at least one in seven have ended up in Sweden, even though the country accounts for just one in 50 EU citizens. So far in 2015, more than 120,000 people have applied for asylum in Sweden. quote:In the medium-term, the situation is not so dire. The government has identified potential space in sports halls and other public buildings for an extra 66,000 arrivals, just under half of which could be converted without too many adjustments. But in the short term, ready-to-use space is proving hard to find due to a combination of allegedly greedy landlords, arsonists and health-and-safety laws. Vandals have set fire to several sites earmarked for refugees, while the agency blames legislative bureaucracy for the delay in opening a series of tent cities in southern Sweden. quote:Others feel that any dereliction of duties to refugees would mark an abandonment of the core tenets of Sweden’s social democracy. “Our society is built on the principle that people are entitled to the same as everyone else,” said the secretary-general of the Swedish bar association, Anne Ramberg, as she waited to provide legal advice to new refugee arrivals at Stockholm central station. “But we are in a situation where we can’t even give refugees housing.”
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 14:32 |
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The Saurus posted:Surely at this point no one can possibly take the right-wing press seriously when it comes to Corbyn. They're attacking him for the depth of his bow and being incredibly disrespectful about remembrance day at the same time. How much more ridiculous can this get in the next 5 years? Or are they expecting Labour will coup him and become lite Tories again because they can't bear the bad press? How much more ridiculous, you ask? Not content with creating a bullshit story about Corbyn on Remembrance Sunday just to attack him, they now attack him for being attacked on Remembrance Sunday.
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 14:36 |
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So the announcement of a 30% cut to Local Government funding has created a shitstorm in my county. Total freeze on all non-essential expenditure until the end of the year at least. We can't fill any of the gaping vital vacancies or even print a single page in colour
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 14:37 |
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If the mud doesn't stick, claim it was all a devious ploy to get attention all along
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# ? Nov 10, 2015 14:38 |
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There was a Daily politics episode (Might have been Sunday Politics actually) where two labour MPs - one for Corbyn, the other against - and the against guy said that the problem with all the Corbyn supporters was that they flooded in, made their vote (lumbered them with Corbyn was his turn of phrase I think) and their membership soared. Now when they contact the new people to plan activism and such, none of the newcomers show up. I think they're afraid the new people who voted Corbyn did it as a larf, or because it was something new and exciting and when the time comes to put the legwork in (or even vote, I guess) they won't be around.
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