USPOL Nov: I would've preferred Huckabee have said nothing at all

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CannonFodder: Jan 26, 2001; Passion’s Wrench

Crain posted:

No you don't get it. When he becomes president America will be Great Again^TM. Thus we will say Merry Christmas because gently caress any other holiday or religion.

Feliz Navidad :ese:

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Happy Noodle Boy: Jul 3, 2002

CannonFodder posted:

Feliz Navidad

Can't wait for that loving song to start playing everywhere.

# ? Nov 10, 2015 18:55

DaveWoo: Aug 14, 2004; Fun Shoe

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

Can't wait for that loving song to start playing everywhere.

I can think of worse Christmas songs.

~Siiiimply haaaaving a wonderful Christmastime~

# ? Nov 10, 2015 18:58

Jerry Manderbilt: May 31, 2012; No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.

30.5 Days posted:

I thought that was chicago.

yeah it's chicago

though koch money is also huge in george mason university, as far as i recall

# ? Nov 10, 2015 19:00

sexy fucking muskrat: Aug 22, 2010; by exmarx

DaveWoo posted:

I can think of worse Christmas songs.

~Siiiimply haaaaving a wonderful Christmastime~

You're both wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJcPVB-we7g

# ? Nov 10, 2015 19:01

LorneReams: Jun 27, 2003; I'm bizarre

I get to hear Mele Kalikimaka at work because the PA system is broken and they play this old Casey Kasem mix from the 1980s every loving year. It repeats infinitely.

# ? Nov 10, 2015 19:02

A Winner is Jew: Feb 14, 2008; by exmarx

DaveWoo posted:

I can think of worse Christmas songs.

~~~Siiiimply haaaaving a wonderful Christmastime~~~

Hippopotamus word with you. :colbert:

# ? Nov 10, 2015 19:02

Maarek: Jun 9, 2002; Your silence only incriminates you further.

Luigi Thirty posted:

Good news: UCLA's economic department has determined that the New Deal made the Great Depression twice as long. Why, you ask?

If wages just stayed at poverty levels the economy would have recovered by 1936!

Did anyone other than right wing nuts take that seriously? It was a tough sell 10 years ago, I can't imagine it would catch on very well post 2008.

# ? Nov 10, 2015 19:03

Hulk Krogan: Mar 25, 2005

Mr Jaunts posted:

You're both wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJcPVB-we7g

I knew what this was before I clicked the link. This might be the worst song ever created.

# ? Nov 10, 2015 19:05

Crowsbeak: Oct 9, 2012; by Azathoth; Lipstick Apathy

Maarek posted:

Did anyone other than right wing nuts take that seriously? It was a tough sell 10 years ago, I can't imagine it would catch on very well post 2008.

Just noticed one of them is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution. Which really makes any of their points suspect.

# ? Nov 10, 2015 19:11

Kalman: Jan 17, 2010

Maarek posted:

Did anyone other than right wing nuts take that seriously? It was a tough sell 10 years ago, I can't imagine it would catch on very well post 2008.

Pretty sure their point was that the lack of antitrust enforcement is what damaged the economy, not increased wages. Not sure why that's a controversial point.

# ? Nov 10, 2015 19:12

Shageletic: Jul 25, 2007

DaveWoo posted:

I can think of worse Christmas songs.

~Siiiimply haaaaving a wonderful Christmastime~

Used to work at Chuck E. Cheese as a teenager, imagine that, with goddamned felt rodents singing over it. Also those weird Christian vegetable things.

# ? Nov 10, 2015 19:14

HootTheOwl: May 13, 2012; Hootin and shootin

ZobarStyl posted:

Is there any significant overlap between "people who watch football obsessively" and "potential Dem voters that are on the fence re: Bernie v. Hillary?" Not to discount such folk, but it seems like a small part of the potential audience.

I'm also perfectly willing to accept the "DWS is completely incompetent" narrative.

Me but hockey. I think I missed most of the republican debate because of it?

# ? Nov 10, 2015 19:16

Killer robot: Sep 6, 2010; I was having the most wonderful dream. I think you were in it!; Pillbug

mlmp08 posted:

On the other hand I forget who DWS is until I see her again and remember how irritating she is in interviews. Kinda like that dude from The Young Turks. TYT reminds me of all the failed right-wing satire shows with how grating it is.

I just every so often look in the thread and wonder why there's so much anger at the insidious influence of Dancing With the Stars on the US political system for a moment or two before I realize.

Really I enjoy those moments, so don't stop on my account.

# ? Nov 10, 2015 19:16

Shifty Pony: Dec 28, 2004; Up ta somethin'

Logikv9 posted:

I always though press carried their own little 4G hotspots anyway because generally wifi gets crowded and slow.

Not to mention that there is the very real possibility that the host provided wireless is being data mined.

# ? Nov 10, 2015 19:43

Armyman25: Sep 6, 2005

CannonFodder posted:

Feliz Navidad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Zgol2NQhlM

# ? Nov 10, 2015 19:48

Crain: Jun 27, 2007; I had a beer once with Stephen Miller and now I like him.

I also tried to ban someone from a Discord for pointing out what an unrelenting shithead I am! I'm even dumb enough to think it worked!

Mr Jaunts posted:

You're both wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJcPVB-we7g

Can't post that without the response:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq10bz3PxyY

# ? Nov 10, 2015 19:49

BI NOW GAY LATER: Jan 17, 2008; So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

Logikv9 posted:

I always though press carried their own little 4G hotspots anyway because generally wifi gets crowded and slow.

most reporters are really untech savy.

like a whole bunch of reporters still have aol emails.

# ? Nov 10, 2015 19:52

BlueBlazer: Apr 1, 2010

Shifty Pony posted:

Not to mention that there is the very real possibility that the host provided wireless is being data mined.

All corporate sponsored wifi, stadiums convention centers, etc. Super data mined, ALWAYS use a proxy at a convention.

Also the Xirrus points they use have some interesting weaknesses....

# ? Nov 10, 2015 19:58

ComradeCosmobot: Dec 4, 2004; USPOL July

Chuck Schumer has decided that he has not been getting enough attention as the Senate Minority Leader heir-apparent. As a result, he's announced that he's decided to set his sights on yet another travesty rocking America: caffeinated peanut butter.

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zoux: Apr 28, 2006

Well thank god, it's about time we had some hysterical overblown fear about peanuts in this country.

# ? Nov 10, 2015 20:32

Fried Chicken: Jan 9, 2011; Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

yeah it's chicago

though koch money is also huge in george mason university, as far as i recall

No, the Chicago school is its only special brand of bad, not the Austrian school of thought. Chicago was Friedman, Austrian was Hayek.

# ? Nov 10, 2015 20:36

Boon: Jun 21, 2005; by R. Guyovich

ComradeCosmobot posted:

Chuck Schumer has decided that he has not been getting enough attention as the Senate Minority Leader heir-apparent. As a result, he's announced that he's decided to set his sights on yet another travesty rocking America: caffeinated peanut butter.

Oh god, I just can't care

# ? Nov 10, 2015 20:54

Shifty Pony: Dec 28, 2004; Up ta somethin'

BlueBlazer posted:

All corporate sponsored wifi, stadiums convention centers, etc. Super data mined, ALWAYS use a proxy at a convention.

Also the Xirrus points they use have some interesting weaknesses....

Yeah, but I would expect traffic from a debate room full of press to be subjected to extra scrutiny.

# ? Nov 10, 2015 20:57

Mr Interweb: Aug 25, 2004

Man who voted for man who wanted to take away his medicaid shocked that same person will be doing just that:

quote:

Still, the broad contours of his condemnation of the ACA are creating a quandary here in remote Pike County, where 55 percent of voters supported Bevin even though the county benefits greatly from the health-care changes he plans to rescind.

Dennis Blackburn has this splintered self-interest. The 56-year-old mechanic hasn't worked in 18 months, since he lost his job at a tire company that supplies a diminishing number of local coal mines. "The old guy had to go home," Blackburn says of his layoff. [�]

On Election Day, Blackburn voted for Bevin because he is tired of career politicians and thought a businessman would be more apt to create the jobs that Pike County so needs. Yet when it comes to the state's expansion of health insurance, "it doesn't look to me as if he understands," Blackburn said. "Without this little bit of help these people are giving me, I could probably die.... It's not right to not understand something but want to stamp it out."

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/11/10/1448153/-Kentucky-warily-waits-to-see-what-Matt-Bevin-will-do-to-400-000-Medicaid-enrollees

# ? Nov 10, 2015 21:21

Aves Maria!: Jul 26, 2008; Maybe I'll drown

zoux posted:

Lord no. The entire GOP platform is based on pandering to what their base is afraid of. Fear is by far the best motivator of human behavior, in my opinion.

I've heard from advertisers and people in social media that it's actually one of the worst possible motivators, because people tend either to shut down or start despairing which is not the way to motivate change.

# ? Nov 10, 2015 21:23

zoux: Apr 28, 2006

Lotka Volterra posted:

I've heard from advertisers and people in social media that it's actually one of the worst possible motivators, because people tend either to shut down or start despairing which is not the way to motivate change.

Well, I'm just going to refer you to ten thousand years of human history.

# ? Nov 10, 2015 21:25

logikv9: Mar 5, 2009; Ham Wrangler

Fear works but like anything else there can be a backlash.

Fear working: Republican Platform (mostly), Bibi's election victory
Fear not working: Taiwan Strait Crisis

# ? Nov 10, 2015 21:26

BI NOW GAY LATER: Jan 17, 2008; So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

Lotka Volterra posted:

I've heard from advertisers and people in social media that it's actually one of the worst possible motivators, because people tend either to shut down or start despairing which is not the way to motivate change.

Fear is a huge motivator for the GOP.

HILLARY IS GOING TO _______________

Is basically their standard line of attack. And to be fair, the Democrats GOTV is literally based on "my god, we cannot trust these crazy republicans with power."

# ? Nov 10, 2015 21:26

Aves Maria!: Jul 26, 2008; Maybe I'll drown

zoux posted:

Well, I'm just going to refer you to ten thousand years of human history.

I think you're mistaking hatred for just plain old fear.

BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

Fear is a huge motivator for the GOP.

HILLARY IS GOING TO _______________

Is it just fear, though? A lot of conservative social media and news presence is based on blind hatred, demonization of an other, and spite.

Aves Maria! fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Nov 10, 2015

# ? Nov 10, 2015 21:29

Captain_Maclaine: Sep 30, 2001; Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

And to be fair, the Democrats GOTV is literally based on "my god, we cannot trust these crazy republicans with power."

Fear in and of itself is not necessarily an illegitimate motivator, particularly when those same crazy Republicans have all but explicitly confirmed they fully intend to make life incomprehensibly worse for most people if they get half a chance.

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haveblue: Aug 15, 2005; Toilet Rascal

Yeah, but sending out emails entitled "ALL IS LOST" inspires despair and exasperation, not fear.

# ? Nov 10, 2015 21:31

A Winner is Jew: Feb 14, 2008; by exmarx

BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

Fear is a huge motivator for the GOP.

HILLARY IS GOING TO _______________

Is basically their standard line of attack. And to be fair, the Democrats GOTV is literally based on "my god, we cannot trust these crazy republicans with power."

Yeah, but the Democrats are right so that's not really fear but more truth.

# ? Nov 10, 2015 21:31

zoux: Apr 28, 2006

Lotka Volterra posted:

I think you're mistaking hatred for just plain old fear.

Is it just fear, though? A lot of conservative social media and news presence is based on blind hatred, demonization of an other, and spite.

Fear leads to anger, and anger to hate, young padawan.

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JT Jag: Aug 30, 2009; #1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver

Fear, anger and outright malice are the three biggest political motivators.

# ? Nov 10, 2015 21:32

Combed Thunderclap: Jan 4, 2011

haveblue posted:

Yeah, but sending out emails entitled "ALL IS LOST" inspires despair and exasperation, not fear.

Learning that this is literally how the DNC is marketing itself is teaching me a lot about the last decade or so of American politics.

# ? Nov 10, 2015 21:32

Happy Noodle Boy: Jul 3, 2002

Mr Interweb posted:

Man who voted for man who wanted to take away his medicaid shocked that same person will be doing just that:

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/11/10/1448153/-Kentucky-warily-waits-to-see-what-Matt-Bevin-will-do-to-400-000-Medicaid-enrollees

Good poo poo. People voting against their own interest realizing what they did is always good.

# ? Nov 10, 2015 21:33

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

haveblue posted:

Yeah, but sending out emails entitled "ALL IS LOST" inspires despair and exasperation, not fear.

But it A/B tests better!

# ? Nov 10, 2015 21:34

Aves Maria!: Jul 26, 2008; Maybe I'll drown

zoux posted:

Fear leads to anger, and anger to hate, young padawan.

Maybe if used carefully, but a nonstop barrage of "OH GOD EVERYTHING SUCKS AND IS DOOMED" makes people less likely to act, be it out of hatred or hope for change.

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zoux: Apr 28, 2006

I'm not sure what you're arguing.

# ? Nov 10, 2015 21:36

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