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They're going to try to merge the universes together, and it's going to be a gigantic mess. You heard it here* first, everynyan. I can't loving wait to spend Clinton Funbucks on a book that mashes together Mage and Mage. *From a certain point of view.
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I have a hard time believing that they'll do that. It would be dumb in a way that I don't think paradox arts
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Dammit Who? posted:But... that would be terrible? *the empty laugh of a jawless skull* You didn't think I cared about those who would have to live through it, did you?
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Pope Guilty posted:I have a hard time believing that they'll do that. It would be dumb in a way that I don't think paradox arts Well I don't think it will be a straight up smashing together but instead would expect something more like what you'd see in the Translation Guide of incorporating the best nwod ideas into Masquerade etc. That would be a bad artistic decision, in my opinion, because Masquerade is poo poo compared to Requiem, but it makes business sense since Masquerade is what people remember. DOCTOR ZIMBARDO fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Nov 10, 2015 |
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Nov 10, 2015 00:38
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They can do whatever they want with Vampire as long as I can still learn Theban Sorcery, Cruac, and Coils of the Dragon instead of VtM sorcery.
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Nov 10, 2015 00:44
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Attorney at Funk posted:They can do whatever they want with Vampire as long as I can still learn Theban Sorcery, Cruac, and Coils of the Dragon instead of VtM sorcery. Thaumaturgy 2.0: Even More Paths
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Attorney at Funk posted:They can do whatever they want with Vampire as long as I can still learn Theban Sorcery, Cruac, and Coils of the Dragon instead of VtM sorcery. *smirks tremereishly*
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Nov 10, 2015 01:10
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Attorney at Funk posted:They can do whatever they want with Vampire as long as I can still learn Theban Sorcery, Cruac, and Coils of the Dragon instead of VtM sorcery. Be like Drac: learn all three.
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Nov 10, 2015 02:07
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Prison Warden posted:Call me crazy but I don't really see appealing to a bunch of near-dead 45 year old larpers who still work at 7/11 being a winning business strategy. I hope they are gonna keep making actually good games because every gamer I know over like 33 is so stuck in their ways they haven't bought any book made after 2003. Anecdotal of course, but there you are.
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Nov 10, 2015 02:10
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MonsieurChoc posted:Be like Drac: learn all three. Learn some of the two lovely ones and then develop the coolest set of powers in the entire gameline?
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Nov 10, 2015 02:10
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wanna facedown the seers of the technocracy for a rigorous debate wrt solipsism versus gnosticism. also atlantis
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Nov 10, 2015 02:14
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Ferrinus posted:Can't wait for an epic metaplot that Unites The Editions, fursonally. Crisis on Infinite Draculas will finally be a reality.
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Nov 10, 2015 03:28
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Luminous Obscurity posted:Crisis on Infinite Draculas This actually sounds cool and good
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:Well I don't think it will be a straight up smashing together but instead would expect something more like what you'd see in the Translation Guide of incorporating the best nwod ideas into Masquerade etc. But requiem's best idea was not being madquerade.
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Nov 10, 2015 03:47
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I'm hoping they just mean something like a return of the old theme years, or a unifying metaplot for oWoD only. Fusing the two would be bad.
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Nov 10, 2015 06:10
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The Seers did Doisetep! Wake Up Sleepels! Forces can melt Matter beams!
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The Real Foogla posted:Forces can Let me stop you right here.
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BEAST : THE DREAMING
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The Libearian posted:BEAST : THE DREAMING 
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Luminous Obscurity posted:Crisis on Infinite Draculas will finally be a reality. Something like this was kicked around to reboot the WoD in the first place (there are even some hooks for it in a few books) but nope: NWoD instead. That was the right choice.
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God Beast is such a wasted opportunity
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MalcolmSheppard posted:Something like this was kicked around to reboot the WoD in the first place (there are even some hooks for it in a few books) but nope: NWoD instead. That was the right choice. Definitely the right choice, but its fun to come up with wacky bullshit anyway.
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Nov 10, 2015 16:23
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paradoxGentleman posted:God Beast is such a wasted opportunity I think Beast: the Primordial is very good at being the game the designer wanted it to be. That does not make it a good game, or good continuing source of inspiration for other games.
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Luminous Obscurity posted:Crisis on Infinite Draculas New thread title?
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Gerund posted:I think Beast: the Primordial is very good at being the game the designer wanted it to be. Yeah. It was really disheartening seeing him shout down people trying to talk about concerns with the game. Dude really wanted his bad guys to be called Heroes and to be unambiguously evil.
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Nov 10, 2015 17:42
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Gerund posted:I think Beast: the Primordial is very good at being the game the designer wanted it to be. Sad but true. Hey, didn't some goon write a fix for that game? I think they shared it via pastebin. Does anyone have that?
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Beasts are essentially tumblrkin and the Heroes are internet trolls.
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paradoxGentleman posted:Sad but true. There were a few of those. Remember any details of it?
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The Libearian posted:BEAST : THE DREAMING Good idea, but there should also be a way to include Changing Breeds there.
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Gantolandon posted:Good idea, but there should also be a way to include Changing Breeds there. BEASTIALITY: THE DREAMING
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Axelgear posted:There were a few of those. Remember any details of it? I'm not sure how you write a fix for Beast that isn't just an entirely new game.
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Kurieg posted:BEASTIALITY: THE DREAMING Or just introduce a new Beast - a fox-man that represents Terror of Awkwardness.
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Got your placards ready: Just say NO to RAVNOS. We don't WANNA no FIANNA. SATYRS make us HATERS.
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paradoxGentleman posted:Sad but true. Gilok posted:I'm not sure how you write a fix for Beast that isn't just an entirely new game. I've been working on a combo errata sheet and fluff redirection for Beast, though I'm waiting for it to be released in its complete state to really knuckle under and make it public, so I can see where the rewrite went and if any of the powers changed much from the Kickstarter draft. It's partly as an exercise to hone my design abilities and partly because I feel like there's some great directions Beast could go, but it involves trimming back the fluff back to square one and building up off the aspects worth salvaging. The public parts of the rewrite seemed more in line with my original thoughts to change it, albeit very obviously a patch job, so we'll see if it needs re-rewrites (it probably will). Here's an example of something from my notes/drafts. It could probably use a round or two of tweaks/critique (like most stuff I've got so far). quote:Mimir’s Wisdom [change the name?]: One of only two, maybe three powers that I think needs a total do-over rather than some tweaks. The other Anakim atavisms tell a story in line with Hopelessness and inevitability - they can chase you effortlessly, rip apart vault doors, punch cars to a halt then beat you with them, etc. etc.. They are visceral, they are dominant, they are unstoppable. This, however, means that 3/4 of their atavisms are all physically oriented with a smattering of intimidation-flavored social power, so this all but demands something like Mimir's Wisdom to fill the gap. Mimir's Wisdom seems to be an attempt to give them mental defenses, another reflection of inevitability in pursuit and awareness, but its benefits are fairly scattershot. It's defense against lies and memory tricks, but it's also rote on actions to pursue hunger, the power to sense weakness and hunger opportunities (which seems more like an Ugallu trick), a Common Sense/hunches system, and that Embed that gives you free skill points. While I get that it's tapping into the stories of Norse giants and titans (hence the name), it feels too broad and disconnected from hopelessness and fear.
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When it comes to the "single World of Darkness" thing, the easy answer is to give nWoD a brand name that's not "World of Darkness", then change up some of the shared terms to make it a little more distinct or whatever.Hitlers Gay Secret posted:Beasts are essentially tumblrkin and the Heroes are internet trolls. Except in it the bigots are right, because the If the awful subtext was any more blatant I think you'd get RaHoWa. Roadie fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Nov 10, 2015 |
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I hope Beast makes it into the new World of Darkness, because I love teaching people "lessons" by hurting and scaring them, and then telling them that it was their own fault that this happened.
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tatankatonk posted:I hope Beast makes it into the new World of Darkness, because I love teaching people "lessons" by hurting and scaring them, and then telling them that it was their own fault that this happened. The Vox post about how GMing is just an excuse for long-term psychological abuse
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Alien Rope Burn posted:Got your placards ready: They cut and apologised for the IRA associations in Fianna corebook, and there's definitely a lot of rad Irish mythology to draw upon, with the different cycles and heroes. Plus with the prevalence of wolves in Irish history, various myths such as the Werewolves of Ossory, and apparently the first name Fáelad referring to werewolves of Tipperary, I'd have been kindof disappointed if there hadn't been some kind of Irish werewolf group if they were doing region-based groups. Similarly, I'm tentatively hoping that Changeling 20th will turn out to be a revised look, since from what I've read of dreaming it distorted a lot of Irish mythology for no good reason, and there's plenty of neat stuff to work with. Less faith and begorrah would be good.
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Roadie posted:When it comes to the "single World of Darkness" thing, the easy answer is to give nWoD a brand name that's not "World of Darkness", then change up some of the shared terms to make it a little more distinct or whatever. That could be awful though. I for one don't want to give up words like Gangrel, Masquerade and Humanity for synonyms that are the same but worse.
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Mendrian posted:That could be awful though. I for one don't want to give up words like Gangrel, Masquerade and Humanity for synonyms that are the same but worse. Ahh, the Games Workshop approach.
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