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Burkion posted:Apparently the budget of the Sci Fi era was around 1 million per episode, so even without inflation they're aiming lower than that for this iteration. That seems really high, about the same as a TNG episode cost at the time.
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ixnay posted:Mike posted an update on Facebook to clarify things regarding MST3K but there's also a teaser about a future rifftrax release in there I love how people's responses to his post are "but you'll do guest spots and Joel will be on Rifftrax as well, right?" Rifftrax has been going for like nine years. If there was ever going to be a Joel/Mike thing it would have already happened. They obviously have different views on how to do a riffing show, as we've seen throughout the years and for whatever reason see no need in working together. Personally I'm probably way more attached to Rifftrax today than I ever was MST3K when I was a kid. Nothing against MST3K obviously, I still love it. I just think Rifftrax has just accomplished so much more since then.
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therealjon_ posted:I love how people's responses to his post are "but you'll do guest spots and Joel will be on Rifftrax as well, right?" I'm kinda this way too. I love watching MST3K but I love watching new Rifftrax stuff because it's still coming...and apparently so is The Wizard. Also I think Mikes evolved the concept so much with Rifftrax. I mean it went from pain in the rear end sync ups to vod PD shorts and movies and now vod and non PD movies. I mean it's tremendous what he's done with his own IP and I can't blame him one bit for only wanting to soley focus on it.
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Nov 10, 2015 22:29
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Yeah Rifftrax is pretty complete at this point and seemingly financially successful. I guess the good thing about Mike not being directly involved is that if it all goes to poo poo, we'll still have Rifftrax. All that being said, it would be great to see Joel pull in members of the old crew, if only for an episode.
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gfanikf posted:pain in the rear end sync ups That reminds me...did they ever do anything with that phone app they were working on that'd play and auto-sync your track to the film?
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Nov 10, 2015 22:35
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Joel just posted this in the reddit AMA
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Mike Nelson posted:more feature length stuff (including one of the finest films to ever feature an NES Power Glove) Freddy's Dead: The Final Nightmare? Wiseblood fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Nov 10, 2015 |
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Nov 10, 2015 22:48
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Wiseblood posted:Freddy's Dead: The Final Nightmare? More likely The Wizard.
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Evil Mastermind posted:That reminds me...did they ever do anything with that phone app they were working on that'd play and auto-sync your track to the film? I know it was a beta at some point...but no not really. I have android stuff so I've only heard some really peripheral mentions of it. Man I remember trying to create custom discs and having the audio be slightly out of sync....or the rifftrax player before chromecast....bleh. I wonder how many people would just buy the audio and grabbed a  presynced one, never touching the audio file itself.
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gfanikf posted:I wonder how many people would just buy the audio and grabbed a I did this quite a bit. I was always curious if they ever looked over my user account and saw I had almost every single mp3 riff, but never downloaded them once.
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therealjon_ posted:I did this quite a bit. I was always curious if they ever looked over my user account and saw I had almost every single mp3 riff, but never downloaded them once. Yeah, I've wondered if they ever do that and get a good laugh since they're not getting the short end of the stick there.
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Nov 10, 2015 23:20
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gfanikf posted:Man I remember trying to create custom discs and having the audio be slightly out of sync.... I created custom discs for every single movie (so far). A couple gave me problems due to the way the original discs were authored, but there was always a way around it.
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I tweeted to Mary Jo and asked her if she saw any money from the MST3K sales on Rifftrax, and she replied with "No. Not on account of RiffTrax but because Jim Mallon/Best Brains in the first place."
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Good news then! Shout Factory now owns MST3K, which is one reason why this is happening. So Jim is almost completely just removed from the project. Won't solve any of the shittiness of the past but should help ease worries about the future.
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RandomPauI posted:How was Jim lovely in the past? Somebody's going to give you a more detailed breakdown soon, but I'll just point out real quick that of course Jim Mallon is not involved because Hell will freeze over before Joel ever works with him again in any professional capacity.
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I understand what Joel is going for with the new cast idea, but Murphy's Servo is my favorite thing and will be hard to replace.
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Bill just tweeted that he, too, is not involved with this either. To be honest, I didn't like almost anything of the Joel years anyway (though that may be because my intro was the Mike/Bill/Kevin years), so I'm kinda glad this doesn't affect Rifftrax in any way. Rifftrax is hitting such a creative stride these past couple years that I really don't want anything to go wrong, and the dynamic is great as-is. Hope Joel can put food on the table but this isnt gonna stay on my radar at all.
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Trace also said that there's no chance he'll even make a cameo, and his wording made it seem like he wasn't too thrilled with this at all. I wonder if there's some behind the scenes stuff that's putting off most of the old crew.
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RandomPauI posted:How was Jim lovely in the past? The big thing is that he was responsible for Joel quitting in the first place as their working relationship became so toxic that Joel has said he either had to quit or the show was going to end. When the show was canceled he raided the prop room selling off everything without consulting anyone else. He tried to cash in on fans goodwill by creating a crappy animated web series about the bots, with none of the original actors. Probably the most telling is how with the various side projects nobody has wanted to work with him again.
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muscles like this? posted:The big thing is that he was responsible for Joel quitting in the first place as their working relationship became so toxic that Joel has said he either had to quit or the show was going to end. Frank and Trace essentially left because they would never, EVER profit off of the show outside of their initial paychecks. The way they've framed the discussion in the passing decades makes it sound like there was an attempt for everyone to get a piece of the pie, but Jim wouldn't budge. I also thought it was INCREDIBLY poor taste for Jim to essentially sell every scrap of the show, piece-by-piece (including the sets!) back in 2000(ish). I realize he couldn't store that stuff forever, but it felt extremely opportunistic at the time.
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bobservo posted:Frank and Trace essentially left because they would never, EVER profit off of the show outside of their initial paychecks. I can only go by the retrospective that Wired did last year, but in that, Frank contends that he never had any ill-will over the lack of residuals, since it was his first job. I'm assuming that the problem was, well, everything else. Realizing that anything he created under Best Brains was going to be owned by Jim Mallon.
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bobservo posted:Frank and Trace essentially left because they would never, EVER profit off of the show outside of their initial paychecks. The way they've framed the discussion in the passing decades makes it sound like there was an attempt for everyone to get a piece of the pie, but Jim wouldn't budge. Mike said in an interview that Mallon almost sold off a hat he left in the office
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Burkion posted:Apparently the budget of the Sci Fi era was around 1 million per episode Do you have a citation for this, because that sounds absurdly high for a show that looks like it was filmed in someone's garage.
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I'd be more excited about new MST3K if they were going to film it in Minneapolis. Filming it in LA just seems wrong to me.
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Breadallelogram posted:I'd be more excited about new MST3K if they were going to film it in Minneapolis. Filming it in LA just seems wrong to me. Source? I haven't seen anything about LA but I might have missed something in the AMA.
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raditts posted:Do you have a citation for this, because that sounds absurdly high for a show that looks like it was filmed in someone's garage. I'd imagine a big chunk goes to acquiring film rights.
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brucio posted:Source? I haven't seen anything about LA but I might have missed something in the AMA. The AMA said that filming would occur in LA, but indicated that the writing team wouldn't all necessarily be located there.
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I took the advice from today's mailer and picked up McBain for the Veteran's Day sale. Best $8.50 I've ever spent. The guys are having a BLAST with this movie; why wouldn't they? It's cheesy and terrible in all the best ways.
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raditts posted:Do you have a citation for this, because that sounds absurdly high for a show that looks like it was filmed in someone's garage. Movie rights are expensive, and got prohibitively more so as time went on, when the rights holders to even the shittiest of movies realized they could make some dough just by letting guys in Minnesota make fun of their terrible films. There are probably some exceptions here and there (I believe the "Time Chasers" and "Hobgoblins" people let MST3K have the movies for cheap because they were desperate for exposure and/or fans of the show, for example), but for the most part, rights holders were more than willing to try and bend Best Brains and the networks over a barrel if they could squeeze a few extra bucks out of them for their crappy movies. Sydney Bottocks fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Nov 12, 2015 |
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Bottom line: Public Domain films worked best. And sometimes resulted in all-time best episodes.
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Wiseblood posted:Freddy's Dead: The Final Nightmare? I better still get my bonus for recommending that last year on that poll site
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I still hope they do "I Know Who Killed Me" some day, that movie deserves it.
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raditts posted:I still hope they do "I Know Who Killed Me" some day, that movie deserves it. I want them to do Blade Runner.
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Wizard page is up on the site: http://www.rifftrax.com/the-wizard Got excited for a second it was up now, but it's a preorder for next Friday.
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The new National Geographic Man vs Monster episode is up for kickstarter backers now edit: Apparently for everyone if you didn't back the kickstarter and want to buy it http://www.rifftrax.com/total-riff-off-episode-6-brazilian-bigfoot ixnay fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Nov 13, 2015 |
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So seriously, Richard Terry is an insane person, right? Because that is the only reason he would ask if anteaters could stand on their hind legs and attack people. Well, that and he's a collossal jackass.
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ixnay posted:The new National Geographic Man vs Monster episode is up for kickstarter backers now The riffs on these have been pretty good, but the shows themselves are just awful like most "reality" shows of this nature.
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For real. I bought the first 3 on sale as a set without watching any previews, figuring it'd be a riff on some chill David Attenborough-style nature series. I could barely make it through them. I got the sense they really held back the teeth and claws due to contract obligations or something because those shows were so insultingly stupid they could've torn them apart for days, but the riffs felt super light. Maybe I'm just cross because I thought a treatment of weird documentary clips would work well, but got bottom-barrel reality tv instead. Maybe the later ones are better because there's no pretending that everyone's not just making a show for the camera?
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