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Andorra posted:Previous years had things like snowflakes and snowmen but now it's just a plain red cup. I'm pretty sure it's only a very small number of people doing the complaining though, because even all the extreme Christian people who throw a fit about TAKING THE CHRIST FROM ARE LIFES all the time are rolling their eyes at this. Yeah, this seems like one of those "controversies" where well more than 3/4 of the people talking about it are the ones talking about "those idiots getting up in arms about this, lol". Naturally Trump has spoken out about banning Starbucks in response. Seriously.
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CommonShore posted:Can anyone explain the "Starbucks Cups" thing? Is it some retarded bullshit Support the War on Christmas or the terrorists win!
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The thing with the red cups is Starbucks noticed folks drawing their own design on the cups in the past so decided they'd provide a blank canvas. Then one single dude tweeted about how they removed Christmas from their cups and the media basically amplified his one complaint into a "controversy". What I find even better about the whole thing is that there were never any explicitly Christmassy designs or statements on the cups, just generic snowflakes and snowmen and poo poo.
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There is also a number of people whining that a plain red cup isn't pretty enough for their Instagram photos, just in case you thought the "controversy" couldn't be any closer to "first world problems".
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I think this is an example of the opposite of the intention of the thread. I'm willing to bet that the whole initial controversy is completely staged, just like how several different video game and movie publishers paid for "Christian protests" of their own properties as advertising I had literally no clue about the cup change until I saw the counter-outrage posts appear everywhere at once, and the net effect is threat Starbucks' logo is plastered EVERYWHERE in the most benign controversy ever, and Starbucks doesn't even have to look like it took the wrong side, it's just a vague "those cooky religious nuts" in the wrong while Starbucks gets literally millions in free advertising
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Sentient Data posted:I think this is an example of the opposite of the intention of the thread. I'm willing to bet that the whole initial controversy is completely staged, just like how several different video game and movie publishers paid for "Christian protests" of their own properties as advertising I was thinking the same thing. The first place I heard about the "controversy" was via Reddit, which was overrun by that bullshit. Really, who would give a gently caress or even notice that the cups were changed.
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I just figured it was cheaper to make a plain red cup than to pay extra for designs and inks and stuff. 
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CommonShore posted:I was thinking the same thing. The first place I heard about the "controversy" was via Reddit, which was overrun by that bullshit. Really, who would give a gently caress or even notice that the cups were changed. You'd be amazed at how easy it is to set of unhinged evangelicals that do, in fact, believe that liberals are actively trying to destroy Christmas.
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Yeah I can see giving people the benefit of the doubt and assuming there must be a  conspiracy because the reality is just too stupid (which is about where I am on Donald Trump, pretty sure he has to be a democratic plant to gently caress up the GOP running, right? I mean he couldn't really...) but you really shouldn't underestimate the ability of some Christians to somehow believe they are the sole persecuted religion in America. 
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Choco1980 posted:Yeah, this seems like one of those "controversies" where well more than 3/4 of the people talking about it are the ones talking about "those idiots getting up in arms about this, lol". boycotting IIRC ToxicSlurpee posted:You'd be amazed at how easy it is to set of unhinged evangelicals that do, in fact, believe that liberals are actively trying to destroy Christmas. Some people got nightmares from the Grinch when very young, and look for ways to justify the primal fear that still lies in their herats
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Zaphod42 posted:Yeah I can see giving people the benefit of the doubt and assuming there must be a I mean, if you're used to holding a special spot in American culture and then all of sudden you're on equal footing with the Muslims and Hindus and Atheists, yeah, it probably does feel like persecution. It's the same reason rich white dudes cry big babby tears anytime someone calls them on their bullshit.
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Australia has had the Plain Packaging laws in for about 3 years now. I'm not sure about the rest of the country but South Australia has an additional law where tobbaco products can't be in plain sight so they're put behind doors and in drawers and such. We're hilariously behind on what to do with e-cigs/vapes. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-06/sa-government-looks-at-regulating-e-cigarettes/6447828 'Bryan died of AIDS' topics pisses me off. I'm in a bogan area so once every month I get to hear that 'OH THAT human being, BULLSHIT HE'S ON THE PACKET, THAT oval office DIED FROM SUCKING TOO MUCH DICK NOT SMOKING'. It's nice that this blog calling out that bullshit is the top Google result but with that banner poo poo-faced bogans are just going to dismiss it anyway. The best part is when the tobacco companies and smokers had their hissy fit over the packaging though and made stuff like:   There was more out of there of soda bottles and chocolate bars and all that. It was great  Zaphod42 posted:Area alco-pops allowed in Aussie land?  So instead of buying a 6-pack of premixed alcopops they'd just get a bottle of spirits, some soda/juice and down that.  We've also had junk like Four Loko but I honestly don't know if Pulse is still around (It tastes like poo poo, just get a 4-pack energy drink and mix vodka into it. Again because of the Alcopop tax it's cheaper to do it this way). Searching on bottle-o sites say it doesn't exist anymore but Aussie sites are loving A-grade trash so 
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Croccers posted:The best part is when the tobacco companies and smokers had their hissy fit over the packaging though and made stuff like: Holy poo poo that's amazing
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Croccers posted:The best part is when the tobacco companies and smokers had their hissy fit over the packaging though and made stuff like: I unironically love this. Mandatory plain packaging for everything! Sell your drat products on their actual merits and not the flashy colors on the packaging.
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Regarding cupgate2015, I just learned today that the guy who's stirred this whole pot is that viral preacher guy who looks like the guy from King of Queens and is apparently a major con artist for taking people's money. I guess he was on CNN earlier talking about it, and when someone on the other side of the debate pointed towards his credentials as a man who got famous for urging people to fight against gay rights with guns he suddenly started having "technical difficulties" and had to go, but not before making sure he mentioned that Obama "pretends to be Christian".
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ToxicSlurpee posted:You'd be amazed at how easy it is to set of unhinged evangelicals that do, in fact, believe that liberals are actively trying to destroy Christmas. I'm actually trying to destroy Christmas.
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Croccers posted:Australia has had the Plain Packaging laws in for about 3 years now. I'm not sure about the rest of the country but South Australia has an additional law where tobbaco products can't be in plain sight so they're put behind doors and in drawers and such. It's like that everywhere. Supermarkets have them in cupboards behind one checkout, with a board that lists brands and prices. From what I've seen, the buying process involves a lot of squinting and pointing and 'no, the one down from that one'. I guess the aim is to frustrate people from buying them in the first place.
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Creature posted:It's like that everywhere. Supermarkets have them in cupboards behind one checkout, with a board that lists brands and prices. From what I've seen, the buying process involves a lot of squinting and pointing and 'no, the one down from that one'. I guess the aim is to frustrate people from buying them in the first place. But then they're even more stressed and need to smoke more 
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Creature posted:It's like that everywhere. Supermarkets have them in cupboards behind one checkout, with a board that lists brands and prices. From what I've seen, the buying process involves a lot of squinting and pointing and 'no, the one down from that one'. I guess the aim is to frustrate people from buying them in the first place. Meanwhile in Japan, there are cigarette vending machines on the streets 
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Zaphod42 posted:Meanwhile in Japan, there are cigarette vending machines on the streets We just have thongs in ours
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Creature posted:We just have thongs in ours See, I expected this in Japan and I couldn't find any I found beer vending machines, cigarette vending machines, and tons of little capsule toy machines. But everybody talks about Japan for all the weird insane poo poo like used panties vending machines, and I saw none of those. I guess you'd have to go to some specific (nasty) places huh?
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Mazerunner posted:But then they're even more stressed and need to smoke more Or something. It was a pretty bullshit excuse. It was mostly a move be the government to make it look like 'No really guys we want you to stop smoking'.
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Croccers posted:We taxed it and just made underage and binge drinking worse I Australia during the first half of the 20th century we tried our own attempt at enforcing morality and temperence. The key moment was a riot spurrned on by disgruntled army personel who drunk the suburb of Liverpool dry and started looted the rest. So the idea was struck that pubs be closed at 6 O'clock to stop large gatherings of people in one bar who would get drunk and rowdy. This stuck in the law books till about 1967 in some states when the times were slowly relaxed. Enter "The Six 'clock swill" where everyone rushed from work to get down as much as possible in the hour. It had the opposite effect intended as people would buy several pints at once to drink and some venues even had a massive hose hooked up to the taps to pour the entire pub a last round. Bar owners were desprate to keep any form of income from a cut-down serving time so rennovated their pubs remove billard rooms and increase the area of the bar into. Others cashing in set up dingy little pubs that were dubbed "tiled urinals" and some had stainless steel troughs that you could piss into so you'd not loose your spot at the bar. Failing that you still could got to the bottle-o and buy drinks to take home. Others opened up sly-grog bars in their houses as it wasn't illegal to drink at home after six. And to no one's surprise this resulted in a massive increase in alcohol related incidents between 6:00pm and 8:00pm as everyone was quite tanked and either drove into something on the way home or had a biffo with the wife and kids. BogDew has a new favorite as of 00:11 on Nov 11, 2015 |
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Croccers posted:The idea behind it is that if they're behind doors or generally out of view you're less likely to impulse to buy them and smoke. Prohibition is historically a bad way to go about dealing with a problem like that so making it as much of a pain in the rear end as possible but still legal has actually been very effective.
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Creature posted:We just have thongs in ours I mean I know you were joking, but I find it really weird that we do have cigarette vending machines and they haven't been banned. The fact that I've only ever seen them in dodgy pubs says something though. Apart from that, the other thing that really weirds me out in terms of "how is this legal?" is drive through bottle shops. Really seems like a mixed message to me.
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Whitlam posted:I mean I know you were joking, but I find it really weird that we do have cigarette vending machines and they haven't been banned. The fact that I've only ever seen them in dodgy pubs says something though. Pretty much what makes them legal is that they're only allowed in places that are already 18+. Bars, casinos, and stuff like that.
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RagnarokAngel posted:Prohibition is historically a bad way to go about dealing with a problem like that so making it as much of a pain in the rear end as possible but still legal has actually been very effective. Company reps keep giving us stickers and posters and magnets to put around the back of the store encouraging us to report chop. "You don't know what they've added into it! ooohooohoo!  "Probably less chemicals and poo poo you have 
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Zaphod42 posted:See, I expected this in Japan and I couldn't find any From what I heard those were actually banned so you basically have to go hang out with the Yakuza to find them. I read that they still exist but they're on the level of speakeasies during prohibition.
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Useless Rabbit posted:From a Bloomingdale's holiday catalog: Wow, this is spectacularly dumb.
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Zaphod42 posted:See, I expected this in Japan and I couldn't find any I've never seen a vending machine for them, but you can find used panties in any sex shop, and there's a lot of sex shops in Japan.
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Useless Rabbit posted:From a Bloomingdale's holiday catalog: For the Rapist on your list. Creature posted:We just have thongs in ours Are you talking about thongs as in flip flops/sandals, or thongs as in ladies underpants?
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Whitlam posted:find it really weird that we do have cigarette vending machines and they haven't been banned. The fact that I've only ever seen them in dodgy pubs says something though. I've only ever seen one (although it was in a pretty nice pub actually), but it only took coins. Who the hell is carrying around $15-$20 in coins? Especially weird as it was in the middle of the CBD, so there was a 7-11 less than a block away.
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twistedmentat posted:Are you talking about thongs as in flip flops/sandals, or thongs as in ladies underpants? 
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Tiggum posted:Who the hell is carrying around $15-$20 in coins? 
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You know, for some reason I took it at face value that you had vending machines with skimpy undergarments in them. It's because thong is a stupid name for a sandal
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Yea, those are flip flops. Wanamingo posted:You know, for some reason I took it at face value that you had vending machines with skimpy undergarments in them. Exactly.
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You know, we genuinely need those. I see so many people walking down the street in broke-rear end flipflops. Or sometimes you just feel like poo poo and want to take a break on the beach but you're not wearing flipflops and don't want to get your feet wet then shove them back into your shoes and get everything all gross.
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Wanamingo posted:You know, for some reason I took it at face value that you had vending machines with skimpy undergarments in them. Sandals have other straps and poo poo on them. The only thing connecting a thong to your foot is a piece of rubber / fabric which goes between your big toe and the next toe along. Also flip flop is a dumb name for thongs  It's almost like the names of things can vary by geographical range and culture A "thong", as in the underwear, usually gets called a bikini bottom or a G-string here.
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