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xthetenth posted:Ah, I see, you derive your enjoyment from being smug about playing hard difficulties. No I think cata is the real game difficulty. Oranges just allow the player to actually be able to play on it, the rest of difficulties and gear is only there to give the illusion of progression/full game. Wafflecopper posted:Christ you're a terrible poster you're just jealous
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Wafflecopper posted:Christ you're a terrible poster
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Nov 11, 2015 20:14
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Heh, looks like some of you guys just haven't experienced ratgame on the real difficulty for hardcore players. What does it feel like to realize this whole time you thought you were killing rats and having fun...when you were actually playing a hollow and watered-down game for lesser players?
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Nov 11, 2015 20:16
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You can enjoy the game on what difficulty you like, but don't kid yourself into thinking that cataclysm isn't the intended difficulty for the game. You can do that, but everyone knows that ignore is for little babbys that can't handle opposing opinions. vvv Snatch Duster fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Nov 11, 2015 |
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Nov 11, 2015 20:19
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Just put him on your ignore list and stop responding to him.
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Nov 11, 2015 20:23
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You sound like a WOW raider Snatch Duster, lemme peep your gear score bro. Where dem epics at? You know what the intended difficulty is? It's the difficulty that lets me have fun with people not like you.
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Stanley Pain posted:You sound like a WOW raider Snatch Duster, lemme peep your gear score bro. Where dem epics at? Lol k guy. I never played wow raids. Enjoy the game on whatever difficulty you like, but don't go bitching about getting greens in the thread when you play on hard.
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Nov 11, 2015 20:26
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Snatch Duster posted:Lol k guy. I never played wow raids. Enjoy the game on whatever difficulty you like, but don't go bitching about getting greens in the thread when you play on hard. i get oranges on hard?
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Nov 11, 2015 20:29
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Snatch Duster posted:You can enjoy the game on what difficulty you like, but don't kid yourself into thinking that cataclysm isn't the intended difficulty for the game. So if Cataclysm is the 'intended' difficulty, what is the difficulty for actual, awesome as gently caress, hard as nails goons like you and me? Or is this game only for a few people?
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Nov 11, 2015 20:29
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rezatahs posted:The only friendly fire that can really screw you on Nightmare+ is bombs and burn damage. The guns and bows do such a tiny fraction it's really not a factor. Hagbane, incidentally, does an hilariously high amount of friendly fire damage if they stand in your gas cloud.
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Skandranon posted:So if Cataclysm is the 'intended' difficulty, what is the difficulty for actual, awesome as gently caress, hard as nails goons like you and me? Or is this game only for a few people? Cata with whites, duh. Guess that lets him out though.
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Nov 11, 2015 20:34
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I hope this patch cuts down the sheer number of Horn of Magnus games clogging up the list. But what happens when terrible players can no longer exploit? Will they git gud, or quit in exasperation?? Only time will tell. And that change to the Fireball staff  the AoE/penetrate effect was so good for mowing down hallways full of rats. RIP.
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Nov 11, 2015 20:35
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Skandranon posted:So if Cataclysm is the 'intended' difficulty, what is the difficulty for actual, awesome as gently caress, hard as nails goons like you and me? Or is this game only for a few people? Cata is still extremely hard. I never said it was easy. Just possible to actually do with oranges, its almost required to even attempt. Slave rats take like 3 - 4 hits with orange weapons, 5 - 7 with greens/blues. We play on cata because thats the end. There is nothing else left after that. Its the intended difficulty where you learn the games mechanics to beat the game. Its the end of the learning curve. Some people enjoy staying in the middle, which is fine, but don't pretend there is anything left after cata. In cata you have to learn when to dodge verse block verse push. Otherwise you fail and lose repeatedly, having probably zero fun. But when you do pull off that two grim three tome enemy below cata run, its loving great. That is why we exploited for the oranges, so we can actually play the final difficulty and learn how to win on it. If you exploit just for loot because you want that perfect weapon, then that is silly. I also think its silly to play ramparts or sewers repeatedly for a chance to get loot, and then complain in the thread about getting poo poo loot.
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Nov 11, 2015 20:39
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Snatch Duster posted:Cata is still extremely hard. I never said it was easy. Just possible to actually do with oranges, its almost required to even attempt. There is stuff after Cataclysm... did you not read the DLC announcement? Also, this isn't the 90s, you don't 'beat' games anymore.
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Skandranon posted:There is stuff after Cataclysm... did you not read the DLC announcement? Also, this isn't the 90s, you don't 'beat' games anymore. Sure you do, we repeatedly beat games now.
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Nov 11, 2015 20:52
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Anyone who thinks that the loot system is solely what causes people to exploit and cheat probably never played L4D. People would abuse AI glitches and pathing problems and take the path of least resistance in both L4D1 and L4D2 constantly and those games had no loot at all.
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Kanos posted:Anyone who thinks that the loot system is solely what causes people to exploit and cheat probably never played L4D. People would abuse AI glitches and pathing problems and take the path of least resistance in both L4D1 and L4D2 constantly and those games had no loot at all. Now I'm just sad. I didn't play L4D much, the combat felt real limp, so I didn't run across any of that.
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Nov 11, 2015 21:03
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I like the way he can't spell cataclysm so he just says "cata". Or maybe he doesn't have time to write out full words because he's too busy playing on the games real intended difficulty which is only playable with all the wicked cool end game loot he has.
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Nov 11, 2015 21:04
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Kitchner posted:I like the way he can't spell cataclysm so he just says "cata". He's too busy cheating at White Rat so he can get enough gear to ONE DAY play the game at the real, proper, intended difficulty for badass awesome wicked cool people.
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Nov 11, 2015 21:08
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The difficulty the developer intended you to play is the one locked behind hours of self-imposed grinding an exploit for gear to artificially make it possible (oh but the gear is pointless somehow).
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Nov 11, 2015 21:10
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Snatch Duster posted:Just using your post to soap box the dumb idealogy of goons refusing to exploit then complain they can't do nightmare or keep getting poo poo gear. If you aren't having fun killing rats with white weapons, I doubt you'll have fun killing rats with orange ones.
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Nov 11, 2015 21:11
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Gestalt Intellect posted:The difficulty the developer intended you to play is the one locked behind hours of self-imposed grinding an exploit for gear to artificially make it possible (oh but the gear is pointless somehow). Actually, the really, real, realist difficulty of the game isn't in yet, because obviously it has to be cataclysm in realism mode. 
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Kamikaze Raider posted:Actually, the really, real, realist difficulty of the game isn't in yet, because obviously it has to be cataclysm in realism mode. got some 'sploitin to do!
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rezatahs posted:got some 'sploitin to do! Just do it with whites! No I'm kidding, clearly ramping up the hits to kill in this way makes it impossible, but ramping it up this other way is the only real way to play.
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Kamikaze Raider posted:Actually, the really, real, realist difficulty of the game isn't in yet, because obviously it has to be cataclysm in realism mode. That does sound like fun. Lot of goons ITT mad about how people enjoy video games. drat Dirty Ape posted:If you aren't having fun killing rats with white weapons, I doubt you'll have fun killing rats with orange ones. That lasted about 20 minutes then my group and I enjoy trying to beat the game on cata because its extremely. Guess what, we still kill rats even on that difficulty. 
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Nov 11, 2015 21:35
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You don't beat this game, you beat the rats. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzj6EeFi_7U
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So should I buy this game or not, I'm confused
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Mr E posted:So should I buy this game or not, I'm confused This is their new trailer if you didn't see my post above: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzj6EeFi_7U Its a very good and well done L4D / Killing floor with incentives to keep playing. Not to mention they're adding more DLC free and premium. So the game is only going to grow.
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Mr E posted:So should I buy this game or not, I'm confused Do you like the idea of hitting a bunch of rear end in a top hat rats with a hammer? If yes, this game is for you.
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Snatch Duster posted:Cata is still extremely hard. I never said it was easy. Just possible to actually do with oranges, its almost required to even attempt. 
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Nov 11, 2015 21:57
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This whole argument just makes me want to get an orange Master Crafted blunderbuss and take it into easy.
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Gimnbo posted:This whole argument just makes me want to get an orange Master Crafted blunderbuss and take it into easy. Not really an argument imo. I am just stating an opinion. I've done that to help out babby goons learning the game and just to gently caress around. Just a bunch of goons being jealous or mad that there are people who enjoy the game in a different way than them. These goons are the kids making sand castles next to the Ocean, and the waves sometimes gently caress their castles up. I'm the dumb human being kid that suggest we move further ahead so we can actually make a castle without it getting ruin, but instead they refuse and throw sand cover dog poo poo instead. Goons love poo poo.
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Gimnbo posted:This whole argument just makes me want to get an orange Master Crafted blunderbuss and take it into easy. I'd really like to see a grudgeraker/blunderbuss with Killing Blow (not sure if available on ranged) and Penetration, and watch a whole swarm of rats get turned into bloody mist...
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Skandranon posted:I'd really like to see a grudgeraker/blunderbuss with Killing Blow (not sure if available on ranged) and Penetration, and watch a whole swarm of rats get turned into bloody mist... I haven't seen it or heard about it, but that would be p sick. Switft bow would finally have a use.
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"Anyone who disagrees with my opinion is mad or jealous of my amazing skills, and I should be free to state my dumb opinion about the "true way" that the devs intended the game to be played without being called dumb or mad despite having just stated my opinion as a fact. Also I still can't spell cataclysm." - Snatch Duster 2015
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I got an orange Two Elf Swords, with (1-3% heroic killing blow anything on a charged attack). That seems like a really low percentage. Do they count as hitting multiple times per swing, or something? I tried them and can't tell if one big swingy attack counts for one 1% chance or multiple 1% chances. Also I still only have white bows, and always play as the Wizard, and I'm annoyed that I didn't get an orange spell stick or something useful.
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Kitchner posted:"Anyone who disagrees with my opinion is mad or jealous of my amazing skills, and I should be free to state my dumb opinion about the "true way" that the devs intended the game to be played without being called dumb or mad despite having just stated my opinion as a fact. Also I still can't spell cataclysm." bloo bloo i'm poo poo eating goon who enjoys playing games on baby tier and complaining about loot a bloo bloo - Kitchner 2015 StringOfLetters posted:I got an orange Two Elf Swords, with (1-3% heroic killing blow anything on a charged attack). That seems like a really low percentage. Do they count as hitting multiple times per swing, or something? I tried them and can't tell if one big swingy attack counts for one 1% chance or multiple 1% chances. Also I still only have white bows, and always play as the Wizard, and I'm annoyed that I didn't get an orange spell stick or something useful. It is but when everyone in the party has a melee weapon able to do this, it is extremely helpful. Thats how we did wheat and chaff on cata, and pretty much most of the maps really. Its nice to side step taking a lot of extra damage by getting lucky with early rat ogre kill. I would totally play rats and prioritize hook rats. It would be loving sweet. Snatching goons being dumb would be amazing. vvvv Snatch Duster fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Nov 11, 2015 |
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Filthy snatch rat!
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Snatch Duster posted:Not really an argument imo. I am just stating an opinion. I've done that to help out babby goons learning the game and just to gently caress around. 
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