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McGlockenshire posted:The school said "when picking Halloween costumes. think about what's offensive and avoid it." The professor said "don't let other people tell you what's offensive, we're all adults here, use your brains." The students said "my feelings determine what is offensive, shut up." And then things got even more stupid. The letter from the professor is actually really well written, but the only copy I have lives on reddit, and that's a horrible thing. Labor Unions as Organizations are interest groups in the post-WW2 capitalist model, yes. Which is why the nation-state should be the ultimate guarantor of labor rights and ensuring the economy is democratic/meritocratic. Things like GMI and Wage Schedules make complete sense if you want everyone to have a decent standard of economic agency - but the current system is about entrenching and protecting privilege as part of a club/in-group. 
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McDowell posted:Which is why the nation-state should be the ultimate guarantor of labor rights and ensuring the economy is democratic/meritocratic. Things like GMI and Wage Schedules make complete sense if you want everyone to have a decent standard of economic agency - but the current system is about entrenching and protecting privilege as part of a club/in-group. 
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Eglamore posted:Actually the halloween thing is the protests at Yale, which were the ones generating the massive mockery. Mizzou is about more than just the racial incidents on the campus. Grad student issues, Med school issues, several departmental votes-of-no-confidence in the school and system leadership. Mizzou's Students/Faculty have a lot of issues with the current administration that weren't getting resolved. Or were getting fixed only after major protests. I don't think desiring to have a 'safe space' on campus is a bad thing. It's where you draw the line balancing safe spaces and first amendment rights that matters. I wouldn't consider black people asking not to have 'friend of the family' screamed at them by angry and/or drunk white people being too much to ask. Or asking that some 'prank' involving scattering hundreds of cotton balls in front of a black student union building be investigated thoroughly be too extreme. And asking the school to take proactive steps to prevent things like this from happening in the future instead of just being reactive isn't crossing that line either. Although the school's response may do that. 25% of your graduate student population walking out of classes is actually a huge protest. A D1 school's entire football team refusing to play is a huge protest as well. I'm glad Wolfe's gone anyway. He was behind a proposed smoking ban on Missouri S&T's (Mizzou's fellow system school in Rolla) that would've banned all tobacco products and substitute tobacco products from any university owned or contracted property. Nobody in the student or faculty leadership heard about it until our PR department put out the press release. I don't smoke, so it doesn't really impact me, but I really don't like changes being forced on people without warning or conversation. 
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Guavanaut posted:In addition to the repercussions against John Carlos and Tommie Smith’s gesture, Peter Norman (the white Australian) was shunned by the Australian Olympics Board and effectively erased from Australian Olympic history simply for wearing an Olympic Project for Human Rights badge and refusing to condemn their gesture or tell the press that they'd ruined his ceremony. Your link says this, but in case someone doesn't read it I want to say it here - John Carlos and Tommie Smith never forgot that Norman stood with them. They were even pallbearers at Norman's funeral. 
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kelvron posted:Mizzou is about more than just the racial incidents on the campus. Grad student issues, Med school issues, several departmental votes-of-no-confidence in the school and system leadership. Mizzou's Students/Faculty have a lot of issues with the current administration that weren't getting resolved. Or were getting fixed only after major protests. All told, it seems unlikely that the football strike or hunger strike would have had teeth without the threat of actual monetary damage to the school, or the support of the coaches and a variety of other staff. I don't think it's terribly controversial to state that universities and colleges as institutions don't care much about the feelings and opinions of their students, beyond the minimum required to not negatively affect their reputation. The student protests that are getting the coverage are the ones that are ridiculous, because it fits a convenient narrative. Sorry if that wasn't made clear. Student response to the admin response to the intercultural affairs committee letter sent by a dean about Halloween: http://downatyale.com/post.php?id=430 Apparently this is fairly common at a lot of places, including Northwestern, where the same guy was dean of students, and wrote a similar letter in response to an actual black face incident. The Yale situation, as best as I can tell, is kinda the academic version of the Japanese in Paris thing. What they thought college was going to be turned out to be different from the reality. They're ostensibly smart kids for getting into Yale, maybe had a rough time growing up and feeling different and probably are legitimately victims of discrimination in meaningful ways. And they still see discrimination there. It's probably worse because of the reputation of that school, along with the fact they actually work on advertising their campus as inclusive and fostering a community atmosphere where everyone is respected. Absolutely having a safe space on campus is a good thing, but the kids they got on video (and let's be generous and say they were caught on a really bad day or something) aren't shown to be advocating that. Their stated (or screamed) position is basically reddit's nightmares come to life. And while I wholeheartedly support making man-children scared of the thought of white privilege going away, the argument that "my feelings trump your rights" and demanding faculty resignations for arguing for freedom of speech even if it's problematic is shaky at best. America.jpg: 
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 Major General Smedley D. Butler, author of War is a Racket and one of the most decorated Marines in history.
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I love a man in a white suit.
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Today is Remembrance Day, a time to celebrate poppies. Verdun today:  Hauntingly beautiful and terrifying, but wouldn't it make a great novelty golf course or skate park?
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quote:University of Missouri Student Body President Payton Head issued a chilling warning of a “confirmed” Ku Klux Klan presence on campus Tuesday — only to admit it was not true hours later.  Mizzou hysteria peaked as reports of the KKK storming the campus proved to be bunk. loving lol http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...-truth-emerges/ Of course, not before a teacher was forced to resign for not canceling an exam held during the peak of the hoax: http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=6971 quote:One University of Missouri student told Campus Reform that Dr. Brigham, who he called “one of the most beloved professors at Mizzou,” was forced to resign. School did not accept the resignation, but again loving lol @ this all, loving clown shoes. KazigluBey fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Nov 12, 2015 |
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KazigluBey posted:
And even if the KKK thing WAS true, it's not like it'd be an army of Klansmen on horseback out for blood. It'd be like five lovely people being lovely at people. Guy made it sound like he was Paul Revere and the British were coming. 
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Nice screenshot of a yet-to-be-sent message there. 
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Gerund posted:Nice screenshot of a yet-to-be-sent message there. It's basically what happened though, so that one image being fake is, at worst, somewhat ironic given the circumstances. 
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When I'm more likely to be injured during the drive over than by having even unprotected sex of some kinds with them, it does seem unreasonable to throw the whole thing out of the window just because of their HIV status. 
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KazigluBey posted:It's basically what happened though, so that one image being fake is, at worst, somewhat ironic given the circumstances. 
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Your posts are garbage but the reason people got upset with him isn't because he didn't cancel his exam, it's because of this stupid email he sent out: quote:Dale Brigham, an associate professor of nutrition and exercise physiology, submitted his resignation as outrage among some students grew in the wake of his email message. http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/missouri-professor-resigns-after-telling-students-not-let-bullies-win-n461686 
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Bedshaped posted:it's because of this stupid email he sent out: Truly a good reason to call for his resignation. Just to be clear, all tumblr-related pictures are obviously from parody accounts, in case anyone was having trouble with that. Here, some anime Hitler, far easier to parse and less muddy in intent 
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KazigluBey posted:It's basically what happened though, so that one image being fake is, at worst, somewhat ironic given the circumstances.  You do need to care about reality as long as there is a presented narrative that confirms your suspicions.
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protest parodies are getting a tad weird
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Denmark in 1956. Ice cream shops selling good stuff.
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Sweden in 2015. Ice cream shops selling good stuff.
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Like anyone in that neighborhood walks. Also, there are no sidewalks, so good going there. Stolen from the USPol thread. 
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FlyingCheese posted:It came from facebook... That is a very good question, Facebook person, but do I really have to tell you that this is the answer?  Pictured: one of many "White Pride" parades that have been held for at least the last 100 years
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Guavanaut posted:Sweden in 2015. Ice cream shops selling good stuff. Comes in Nogger Black and Nogger 88 flavors: 
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